US has no good options in Ukraine
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Democratic Socialists of America calls on the U.S. to withdraw from NATO.
https://twitter.com/sukatra/status/1497811024359137281/photo/1 |
Anonymous
| No fly zone. NATO. Now. Before Russia declares victory. We’re just peace keeping as they are. |
Anonymous
This. 100%. |
Ukraine forces do not have air cover so can not move.
Anonymous
Sounds like republicans |
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https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/ukrainians-are-wondering-where-is-the-west/
Ukrainians are asking from bomb shelters and underground bunkers where Western democracies are right now. I ask the same. It has come to this. Despite my deep love for the United States of America, I am ashamed. I did not expect American boots on the ground. I understood the United States’ position on engaging militarily with Russia, even if I may have personally other views. However, I DO NOT understand why the West is not providing massive military supplies—in particular Stinger missiles, sniper rifles, Javelin anti-tank missiles, drones, and ammunition, since Ukrainians are willing to defend themselves. I DO NOT understand the slow rollout of economic, financial, and energy sanctions. I DO NOT understand why the West is not sanctioning all Russian state securities (not just those issued after March 1), all Russian state banks, the Central Bank of Russia, and all state-owned enterprises of Russia without exception. I DO NOT understand why the West has not expelled Russia from SWIFT or the Visa and Mastercard systems. I DO NOT understand why it took so long to sanction Putin (whether or not the West has access to his assets is irrelevant). I DO NOT understand why the West has not sanctioned all of the Russian Duma, Cabinet, and National Security Council members and all their families. I DO NOT understand why the United States (and every other democratic country) has maintained air privileges for Russian airlines to fly to the United States. I DO NOT understand why Russian diplomats have not all been expelled from the United States (they have NO right to live in peace and freedom if they deny Ukrainians the same). I DO NOT understand why the West has not revoked the licenses of all Russian state media throughout the Western world. I DO NOT understand why the West has not publicly pilloried all the former government officials who serve on the boards of Russian state-owned enterprises. I DO NOT understand why the West has not demanded that social-media platforms address inauthentic accounts tied to the Kremlin and spreading disinformation immediately—and sanction them from doing business with and monetizing Russia state accounts. I DO NOT understand why the West has not sanctioned all the Russian oligarchs (take the top two-hundred on the Forbes list) who have not disavowed Putin and his slaughter of Ukrainians. I DO NOT understand why the West has not called for a vote of the United Nations (UN) to expel Russia given it has made a mockery of the UN Charter with its violations. I DO NOT understand why the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe has not yet suspended Russia, as the Council of Europe has. I DO NOT understand why the West has not yet canceled the visas of all Russian visitors, businesspeople, and students. I DO NOT understand why Americans are not pressuring US business to divest from the tyrant’s businesses, as the United States did in South Africa because of apartheid. I DO NOT understand why the West is not charging Putin with war crimes for targeting hospitals, orphanages, kindergartens, and residential buildings. This is war. In war, you do everything humanly possible to stop the aggressor as quickly as humanly possible. The West must isolate the pariah. “Never again” the West said after World War II. Here we are AGAIN. Hundreds of people are dying—innocent, peaceful people who did nothing to provoke this other than breathe freedom. I am ashamed. I do not understand. Natalie Jaresko is a distinguished fellow at the Eurasia Center and former finance minister of Ukraine. |
Anonymous
Wrong. There’s no way American planes will be shooting down Russian jets. That really could start an American Russian war. We could arm Ukraine with stinger missiles so Russian planes will have to fly higher but we’re not starting a shooting war with Russia. |
Anonymous
The US and allies are providing weapons. |
Anonymous
Dp- exactly. We can’t enforce a no fly zone. |
Anonymous
We are not inserting ourselves directly because we fear nuclear war. What is happening in Ukraine is horrific and even more as the NATO countries that Ukraine helped to buffer have been so slow to respond - and like Germany, only grudgingly. But the fact is that if we fly over Ukraine it’s game on for a Russian - American war, which could be deadly for the world. |
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French person here. OK, cool down everyone. The sad truth is that the West will, and HAS TO, let Ukraine do the actual fighting (with significant sanctions and weaponry distribution), otherwise we risk an escalation into WWIII and possible nuclear use. This was always the plan. Ukraine is not part of NATO, and you can argue forever about whether it was blocked to preserve the tenuous east-west geopolitical truce, but the fact is, it's not in NATO and does not have to be protected with the full military might of western countries. Social media images of Ukrainian suffering will make us weep but will not change the plan. However, I can promise you that sanctions are here to stay. These are the harshest ever implemented on Russia. The more genocide there is, the longer and more severe they will be, until the entire Russian economy collapses and Putin is forced out. That also will lead to immense suffering on the part of the Russian population. There is no good option. NATO will not risk it's populations safety and wellbeing by escalating this conflict beyond sanctions and arms/materials provision. It is already gearing up for a refugee crisis of millions of Ukrainians. BUT - Putin has NO options AT ALL. He has cornered himself like a rat. He can all of Ukraine. But he will lose, because retribution will strangle his country's economy into oblivion. At some point his assets, instead of being frozen, may be seized outright depending on Hague tribunal decisions. This is the beginning of the end for Putin. |