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Anonymous wrote:Development academy? Ask around about DA ZZZzzzzZZzzzz........

This post sounds like something a crazed parent that thinks his kid is much better than he is would say.

The crazy parents that move kids around in packs by recruiting packs of players from one team to another, often mid-season, should be sanctioned. And if anyone knows these parents, they should be called out by name on here. Why would anyone want a family on their team that has already shown they are willing to break up a team midseason by recruiting their own team's players to move to another club.

On the boys side, I know some guy named Hasam that was part of LMVSC has done this multiple times and another dad has broken up multiple teams named Munsur.

On the girls side, FCV "poaches" by having parents and coaches speaking to 9 and 10 year old girls without their parents around looking for mid-season moves...big no-no in my book.

Man - crazy parents are everywhere just stay clear of them - far, far away. The bigger issue are the clubs charging $2000-$3000 a year for awful training and no development. Unless you get lucky and get one of the rare, few coaches that work hard and are actually interested in developing your child, you're throwing money away. And please don't tell me about "A" or "B" licensed coaches - thats a joke. As a PP said, a ton of these top licensed coaches, moved up the licensing ladder by playing "professionally" for a month somewhere and still in their late 20s or early 30s. These are the coaches that couldn't be bothered actually putting together a training plan for each session. After all, they have an A license.

Ugh. Yes. They keep adding more teams to these damn clubs--now we have F and G teams. It's pure robbery. They count on parents that know nothing about soccer to keep writing the checks.

When you get to the pint that you are forming 6 teams per age group in one club, it's time to think that these 30 kids would be better off in a $75 Rec league. Parents could hire a private trainer for much less with better results and return on the dollar. It waters down the system. All group training is too over-crowded. The coaching staff is not that deep and aren't invested in these kids.

Hell, yes!!! +100

My son is trying out for U9 next season. I checked out some clubs and sort of boiled it down to BRYC or PWSI. Currently in PWSI Academy but traffic is a beast. Anyway my question is how would one know how many teams the age group would have? From talking to some parents BRYC had 3 teams at U9 in CCL and CCL2. I cant imagine 3 coaches could train that many kids. Are some clubs truly looking for talent and others trying to just make money (granted they all want to make money).

We have been happy with BRYC since moving there a couple years ago at an older age group. You can see on their website that the coaches will change as kids progress though the years. This is helpful in getting a fresh set of eyes on your kids as the progress in their development. We have also seen a great deal of fluidity in the team rosters. Kids play up onto higher teams frequently and even onto teams in higher age groups when possible.

Also, your concern about the U9 coaching ratio is misplaced. Remember a U9 roster is only 11 or 12 kids so 3 coaches for 30-35 U9 kids is a great ratio.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Development academy? Ask around about DA ZZZzzzzZZzzzz........

This post sounds like something a crazed parent that thinks his kid is much better than he is would say.

The crazy parents that move kids around in packs by recruiting packs of players from one team to another, often mid-season, should be sanctioned. And if anyone knows these parents, they should be called out by name on here. Why would anyone want a family on their team that has already shown they are willing to break up a team midseason by recruiting their own team's players to move to another club.

On the boys side, I know some guy named Hasam that was part of LMVSC has done this multiple times and another dad has broken up multiple teams named Munsur.

On the girls side, FCV "poaches" by having parents and coaches speaking to 9 and 10 year old girls without their parents around looking for mid-season moves...big no-no in my book.

Man - crazy parents are everywhere just stay clear of them - far, far away. The bigger issue are the clubs charging $2000-$3000 a year for awful training and no development. Unless you get lucky and get one of the rare, few coaches that work hard and are actually interested in developing your child, you're throwing money away. And please don't tell me about "A" or "B" licensed coaches - thats a joke. As a PP said, a ton of these top licensed coaches, moved up the licensing ladder by playing "professionally" for a month somewhere and still in their late 20s or early 30s. These are the coaches that couldn't be bothered actually putting together a training plan for each session. After all, they have an A license.

Ugh. Yes. They keep adding more teams to these damn clubs--now we have F and G teams. It's pure robbery. They count on parents that know nothing about soccer to keep writing the checks.

When you get to the pint that you are forming 6 teams per age group in one club, it's time to think that these 30 kids would be better off in a $75 Rec league. Parents could hire a private trainer for much less with better results and return on the dollar. It waters down the system. All group training is too over-crowded. The coaching staff is not that deep and aren't invested in these kids.

Hell, yes!!! +100

My son is trying out for U9 next season. I checked out some clubs and sort of boiled it down to BRYC or PWSI. Currently in PWSI Academy but traffic is a beast. Anyway my question is how would one know how many teams the age group would have? From talking to some parents BRYC had 3 teams at U9 in CCL and CCL2. I cant imagine 3 coaches could train that many kids. Are some clubs truly looking for talent and others trying to just make money (granted they all want to make money).

We have been happy with BRYC since moving there a couple years ago at an older age group. You can see on their website that the coaches will change as kids progress though the years. This is helpful in getting a fresh set of eyes on your kids as the progress in their development. We have also seen a great deal of fluidity in the team rosters. Kids play up onto higher teams frequently and even onto teams in higher age groups when possible.

Also, your concern about the U9 coaching ratio is misplaced. Remember a U9 roster is only 11 or 12 kids so 3 coaches for 30-35 U9 kids is a great ratio.

Our team plays BRYC and I do notice they rotate their game roster constantly. Also, players get to play up, etc.

We are in a stagnant system now and it's stifling. No new set of eyes--ever. The only way players get that is to leave the Club.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Development academy? Ask around about DA ZZZzzzzZZzzzz........

This post sounds like something a crazed parent that thinks his kid is much better than he is would say.

The crazy parents that move kids around in packs by recruiting packs of players from one team to another, often mid-season, should be sanctioned. And if anyone knows these parents, they should be called out by name on here. Why would anyone want a family on their team that has already shown they are willing to break up a team midseason by recruiting their own team's players to move to another club.

On the boys side, I know some guy named Hasam that was part of LMVSC has done this multiple times and another dad has broken up multiple teams named Munsur.

On the girls side, FCV "poaches" by having parents and coaches speaking to 9 and 10 year old girls without their parents around looking for mid-season moves...big no-no in my book.

Man - crazy parents are everywhere just stay clear of them - far, far away. The bigger issue are the clubs charging $2000-$3000 a year for awful training and no development. Unless you get lucky and get one of the rare, few coaches that work hard and are actually interested in developing your child, you're throwing money away. And please don't tell me about "A" or "B" licensed coaches - thats a joke. As a PP said, a ton of these top licensed coaches, moved up the licensing ladder by playing "professionally" for a month somewhere and still in their late 20s or early 30s. These are the coaches that couldn't be bothered actually putting together a training plan for each session. After all, they have an A license.

Ugh. Yes. They keep adding more teams to these damn clubs--now we have F and G teams. It's pure robbery. They count on parents that know nothing about soccer to keep writing the checks.

When you get to the pint that you are forming 6 teams per age group in one club, it's time to think that these 30 kids would be better off in a $75 Rec league. Parents could hire a private trainer for much less with better results and return on the dollar. It waters down the system. All group training is too over-crowded. The coaching staff is not that deep and aren't invested in these kids.

Hell, yes!!! +100

My son is trying out for U9 next season. I checked out some clubs and sort of boiled it down to BRYC or PWSI. Currently in PWSI Academy but traffic is a beast. Anyway my question is how would one know how many teams the age group would have? From talking to some parents BRYC had 3 teams at U9 in CCL and CCL2. I cant imagine 3 coaches could train that many kids. Are some clubs truly looking for talent and others trying to just make money (granted they all want to make money).

We have been happy with BRYC since moving there a couple years ago at an older age group. You can see on their website that the coaches will change as kids progress though the years. This is helpful in getting a fresh set of eyes on your kids as the progress in their development. We have also seen a great deal of fluidity in the team rosters. Kids play up onto higher teams frequently and even onto teams in higher age groups when possible.

Also, your concern about the U9 coaching ratio is misplaced. Remember a U9 roster is only 11 or 12 kids so 3 coaches for 30-35 U9 kids is a great ratio.

Our team plays BRYC and I do notice they rotate their game roster constantly. Also, players get to play up, etc.

We are in a stagnant system now and it's stifling. No new set of eyes--ever. The only way players get that is to leave the Club.

Mclean?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Development academy? Ask around about DA ZZZzzzzZZzzzz........

This post sounds like something a crazed parent that thinks his kid is much better than he is would say.

The crazy parents that move kids around in packs by recruiting packs of players from one team to another, often mid-season, should be sanctioned. And if anyone knows these parents, they should be called out by name on here. Why would anyone want a family on their team that has already shown they are willing to break up a team midseason by recruiting their own team's players to move to another club.

On the boys side, I know some guy named Hasam that was part of LMVSC has done this multiple times and another dad has broken up multiple teams named Munsur.

On the girls side, FCV "poaches" by having parents and coaches speaking to 9 and 10 year old girls without their parents around looking for mid-season moves...big no-no in my book.

Man - crazy parents are everywhere just stay clear of them - far, far away. The bigger issue are the clubs charging $2000-$3000 a year for awful training and no development. Unless you get lucky and get one of the rare, few coaches that work hard and are actually interested in developing your child, you're throwing money away. And please don't tell me about "A" or "B" licensed coaches - thats a joke. As a PP said, a ton of these top licensed coaches, moved up the licensing ladder by playing "professionally" for a month somewhere and still in their late 20s or early 30s. These are the coaches that couldn't be bothered actually putting together a training plan for each session. After all, they have an A license.

Ugh. Yes. They keep adding more teams to these damn clubs--now we have F and G teams. It's pure robbery. They count on parents that know nothing about soccer to keep writing the checks.

When you get to the pint that you are forming 6 teams per age group in one club, it's time to think that these 30 kids would be better off in a $75 Rec league. Parents could hire a private trainer for much less with better results and return on the dollar. It waters down the system. All group training is too over-crowded. The coaching staff is not that deep and aren't invested in these kids.

Hell, yes!!! +100

My son is trying out for U9 next season. I checked out some clubs and sort of boiled it down to BRYC or PWSI. Currently in PWSI Academy but traffic is a beast. Anyway my question is how would one know how many teams the age group would have? From talking to some parents BRYC had 3 teams at U9 in CCL and CCL2. I cant imagine 3 coaches could train that many kids. Are some clubs truly looking for talent and others trying to just make money (granted they all want to make money).

We have been happy with BRYC since moving there a couple years ago at an older age group. You can see on their website that the coaches will change as kids progress though the years. This is helpful in getting a fresh set of eyes on your kids as the progress in their development. We have also seen a great deal of fluidity in the team rosters. Kids play up onto higher teams frequently and even onto teams in higher age groups when possible.

Also, your concern about the U9 coaching ratio is misplaced. Remember a U9 roster is only 11 or 12 kids so 3 coaches for 30-35 U9 kids is a great ratio.

Our team plays BRYC and I do notice they rotate their game roster constantly. Also, players get to play up, etc.

We are in a stagnant system now and it's stifling. No new set of eyes--ever. The only way players get that is to leave the Club.

Mclean?

No

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Development academy? Ask around about DA ZZZzzzzZZzzzz........

This post sounds like something a crazed parent that thinks his kid is much better than he is would say.

The crazy parents that move kids around in packs by recruiting packs of players from one team to another, often mid-season, should be sanctioned. And if anyone knows these parents, they should be called out by name on here. Why would anyone want a family on their team that has already shown they are willing to break up a team midseason by recruiting their own team's players to move to another club.

On the boys side, I know some guy named Hasam that was part of LMVSC has done this multiple times and another dad has broken up multiple teams named Munsur.

On the girls side, FCV "poaches" by having parents and coaches speaking to 9 and 10 year old girls without their parents around looking for mid-season moves...big no-no in my book.

Man - crazy parents are everywhere just stay clear of them - far, far away. The bigger issue are the clubs charging $2000-$3000 a year for awful training and no development. Unless you get lucky and get one of the rare, few coaches that work hard and are actually interested in developing your child, you're throwing money away. And please don't tell me about "A" or "B" licensed coaches - thats a joke. As a PP said, a ton of these top licensed coaches, moved up the licensing ladder by playing "professionally" for a month somewhere and still in their late 20s or early 30s. These are the coaches that couldn't be bothered actually putting together a training plan for each session. After all, they have an A license.

Ugh. Yes. They keep adding more teams to these damn clubs--now we have F and G teams. It's pure robbery. They count on parents that know nothing about soccer to keep writing the checks.

When you get to the pint that you are forming 6 teams per age group in one club, it's time to think that these 30 kids would be better off in a $75 Rec league. Parents could hire a private trainer for much less with better results and return on the dollar. It waters down the system. All group training is too over-crowded. The coaching staff is not that deep and aren't invested in these kids.

Hell, yes!!! +100

My son is trying out for U9 next season. I checked out some clubs and sort of boiled it down to BRYC or PWSI. Currently in PWSI Academy but traffic is a beast. Anyway my question is how would one know how many teams the age group would have? From talking to some parents BRYC had 3 teams at U9 in CCL and CCL2. I cant imagine 3 coaches could train that many kids. Are some clubs truly looking for talent and others trying to just make money (granted they all want to make money).

We have been happy with BRYC since moving there a couple years ago at an older age group. You can see on their website that the coaches will change as kids progress though the years. This is helpful in getting a fresh set of eyes on your kids as the progress in their development. We have also seen a great deal of fluidity in the team rosters. Kids play up onto higher teams frequently and even onto teams in higher age groups when possible.

Also, your concern about the U9 coaching ratio is misplaced. Remember a U9 roster is only 11 or 12 kids so 3 coaches for 30-35 U9 kids is a great ratio.

Our team plays BRYC and I do notice they rotate their game roster constantly. Also, players get to play up, etc.

We are in a stagnant system now and it's stifling. No new set of eyes--ever. The only way players get that is to leave the Club.

Mclean?

No

McLean did have a change in boys coaching 2016 season. Although I feel a lot of clubs around here have the same coaches for a couple of years with the same kids, not the best system.

[Anonymous]

Pp--do they reassess though.

Our coaches have little say in team decisions. They just inherit already formed teams and go on a different person's assessment.

It's not like they show up at tryouts and actually pick a team. The A, B, C, etc splits are there already. Kids are already only allowed on certain fields. New coach only looks at 2 of the many scrimmage fields. These are kids that were determined to be there at 7/8 years old and there they remain years later...

[Anonymous]

Doew anyone have any information about the new Arlington U.S. Development Academy Program? The turnout for the U14 try-outs seemed extremely low.

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Anonymous wrote:Pp--do they reassess though.

Our coaches have little say in team decisions. They just inherit already formed teams and go on a different person's assessment.

It's not like they show up at tryouts and actually pick a team. The A, B, C, etc splits are there already. Kids are already only allowed on certain fields. New coach only looks at 2 of the many scrimmage fields. These are kids that were determined to be there at 7/8 years old and there they remain years later...

Your only option for advancement in that situation is to go to a different club.

Been there. Done that.

[Anonymous]

We have been happy with BRYC since moving there a couple years ago at an older age group. You can see on their website that the coaches will change as kids progress though the years. This is helpful in getting a fresh set of eyes on your kids as the progress in their development. We have also seen a great deal of fluidity in the team rosters. Kids play up onto higher teams frequently and even onto teams in higher age groups when possible.

Also, your concern about the U9 coaching ratio is misplaced. Remember a U9 roster is only 11 or 12 kids so 3 coaches for 30-35 U9 kids is a great ratio.


Your comment has been super helpful thank you. Going to check out the tryouts.

[Anonymous]

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We have been happy with BRYC since moving there a couple years ago at an older age group. You can see on their website that the coaches will change as kids progress though the years. This is helpful in getting a fresh set of eyes on your kids as the progress in their development. We have also seen a great deal of fluidity in the team rosters. Kids play up onto higher teams frequently and even onto teams in higher age groups when possible.

Also, your concern about the U9 coaching ratio is misplaced. Remember a U9 roster is only 11 or 12 kids so 3 coaches for 30-35 U9 kids is a great ratio.


Your comment has been super helpful thank you. Going to check out the tryouts.

Too long a drive for us in rush hour evening traffic, but would love to have a club like this closer to home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pp--do they reassess though.

Our coaches have little say in team decisions. They just inherit already formed teams and go on a different person's assessment.

It's not like they show up at tryouts and actually pick a team. The A, B, C, etc splits are there already. Kids are already only allowed on certain fields. New coach only looks at 2 of the many scrimmage fields. These are kids that were determined to be there at 7/8 years old and there they remain years later...

There was a coach switch over for fall season starting right after they picked teams from try outs in June of 2015 at McLean. A lot of kids on the upper teams didn't get moved but kids on the lower teams were moved around and some didn't make the cut. A couple of kids came over from Great Falls. No system is perfect, Mclean is decent but far from perfect. It's obvious some of the coaches have their favorite kids and often times those kid's parents are good friends with the coaches, go figure!

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We have been happy with BRYC since moving there a couple years ago at an older age group. You can see on their website that the coaches will change as kids progress though the years. This is helpful in getting a fresh set of eyes on your kids as the progress in their development. We have also seen a great deal of fluidity in the team rosters. Kids play up onto higher teams frequently and even onto teams in higher age groups when possible.

Also, your concern about the U9 coaching ratio is misplaced. Remember a U9 roster is only 11 or 12 kids so 3 coaches for 30-35 U9 kids is a great ratio.

Your comment has been super helpful thank you. Going to check out the tryouts.

Too long a drive for us in rush hour evening traffic, but would love to have a club like this closer to home.

Where is home?

[Anonymous]

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We have been happy with BRYC since moving there a couple years ago at an older age group. You can see on their website that the coaches will change as kids progress though the years. This is helpful in getting a fresh set of eyes on your kids as the progress in their development. We have also seen a great deal of fluidity in the team rosters. Kids play up onto higher teams frequently and even onto teams in higher age groups when possible.

Also, your concern about the U9 coaching ratio is misplaced. Remember a U9 roster is only 11 or 12 kids so 3 coaches for 30-35 U9 kids is a great ratio.

Your comment has been super helpful thank you. Going to check out the tryouts.

Too long a drive for us in rush hour evening traffic, but would love to have a club like this closer to home.


I'm the BRYC parent. I'll be the first to admit that no club is perfect (including BRYC) but what you want to look for once you know your kid is really committed to playing and practicing soccer is a club that has the big picture issues all correct ... a focus on long term individual development rather than immediate team results, consistency of playing style across all teams, fluid team rosters based on acceleration or deceleration of individual development, different coaches during different phases of development, etc.

We are happy on all those fronts with our move to BRYC, which for us makes it well worth the 30 minute drive to/from practices three nights per week.

[Anonymous]

Can you give some details on how BRYC focuses "on long term individual development rather than immediate team results"? Or I guess how can I tell if a club is NOT doing that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can you give some details on how BRYC focuses "on long term individual development rather than immediate team results"? Or I guess how can I tell if a club is NOT doing that?

The problems I would notice on that issue are things like the following:

Does the coach tell the kids to stop passing the ball around the back in a close game, even though they are taught and trained to pass it around the back?
Does the coach stop rotating substitutes or non-starting kids into the game when it is a close game?
Does the club refuse to play teams up an age group, or in higher tournament brackets or leagues, for fear of losing games even though the tougher competition would be better for the kids individual development?
Does the coach or club seem overly fixated on the outcome of the game or tournament, rather than on what can be learned from the game or tournament?
Does the coach or club refuse to move better players up to older teams (or more competitive teams in the same age) because the coach doesn't want to risk losing a particular game, or having the team underperform in a particular tournament?
Does the club seem more focused on their teams records and rankings, rather than on getting kids to the highest levels their talent and work will take them (e.g. playing in college)?
Does the club seem overly focused on attracting/recruiting kids from other clubs as opposed to providing the best possible training?
Does the club/team play too many tournaments such that the ratio of practices to games in a season or year is skewed too much in favor of games?