Fairfax County Double Murder

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Anonymous wrote:I have so many questions about the second gun and the need for the AP to use it...

*Why would BB, a trained LEO with a service weapon on him which he had already used once, need assistance from his employee to access a second gun and finish off the "intruder" when he could have easily done that himself? What possible reason could he have thought up to give authorities for the need for assistance from the AP?

*Obviously, having the AP shoot the second gun was part of BB's plan, but how was BB planning to explain to authorities why his employee knew the location of the gun, the combination of the safe, and how to use the gun? It can't be common practice for households that employ au pairs and have gun safes with guns in them to instruct the au pair on how to access and use the gun. You might instruct them on how to use an alarm system or dial 911 but teach them how to access a gun? Doesn't make sense.

*It seems like BB wanted the AP to be complicit in the shooting, which is why he took her to the gun range to train her on how to use the gun, subsequently purchased a gun for her to use, told her how to access it, and then told her to use it on Joe. But what convoluted reason could he have possibly given her for why she needed to do that in the first place? Was he thinking it would somehow make him personally less culpable if there was a second shooter?

Make it make sense!

I have had the same questions. If they thought Ryan was still a threat even after being shot/ blinded, why did they take the time for her to go to the safe get the code to open the safe, retrieve the gun and shoot it instead of him just shooting again. It just doesn’t make sense.

It makes perfect sense if you think of it more like a gang initiation. She would have reason to keep silent.

Aren't Law Enforcement Officers are trained to keep shooting until they have neutralized the threat? So, it really makes no sense for BB to stop with one shot... unless he is claiming he was in a physical fight with JR or JR knocked BB's gun away. I haven't heard that. So, the only other reason for BB to seek help from the AP to finish the job of killing JR is for her to get her hands dirty as well.

Since BB knows that HE stabbed CB, and AP knows that BB stabbed CB --- BB needed to bring AP into the crime as much as he was in it. She had to be willing to kill for him and then they would both claim self-defense.

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Guys… we can make all sorts of assumptions, but the reality is that we’re likely never know what really happened. Not even if both confess. If that would ever come to happen, they’d still tell their side of the story.
We’re gonna die and still never know.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we know that CB was actually found naked or is that just something the AP/BB testified to?

Part of me is convinced all of this was premeditated to resemble the Robert Wone murder. No way to pin it on one person. The other part of me is like: why do this on a day the child was home?? Let’s assume BB thinks he’s a criminal mastermind/genius. Children are wild cards on their best days. Why did he do this on a day she’d be at the house? I think their original plan fell apart somehow…

I believe one of the articles had an EMT testify to that point. But that he did not see the knife, which is curious.

Perhaps one of the posters who was present can add detail?

They may have locked her in the au pair suite with a juice box and cartoons so she would not be able to walk in?

I think they had been planning it for months and it was his birthday gift to himself. The feeling of power and being smartest and controlling 3 other people, ending the lives of 2. It seems likely he was familiar with the Wone and Winger cases. She goes down for shooting but can they pin stabbing on him without her testifying against him? Maybe/maybe not. They did get Winger eventually.

Re: Wone, word was that Joe and Victor are back in DMV. The 3rd married somene in FL who may be wise to sleep with one eye open.

The timing re:bday is interesting; as is the time of the year. Apparently, Jan and Feb. are the MOST COMMON times for people to file for divorce or leave their spouses. They white-knuckle it through the holidays, get to the new year and have the motivation to make a significant change. With the cold weather keeping people inside more, people just can't take being together and they pull the PROVERBIAL trigger. Except, for sociopaths like BB and AP -- they pull the actual trigger.

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Anonymous wrote:Why/how would CB be naked?? Do we think BB or AP drugged her?

She was in the shower getting ready for the day?

Or BB purposely left her body naked AFTER HE STABBED HER TO DEATH?

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Anonymous wrote:They need to offer the AP US citizenship. That will flip her. And it is reasonable offer for cooperating with a killer. We may not like her or the thought of this offer, but it is for greater good.

I really think it would help. Have had many APs including from Brazil. And her attorney would be a fool not to encourage her to take it.

The Commonwealth of Virginia has no ability to offer that. And I'm pretty sure there's not a visa/citizenship category for flipping on your would be co-defendant in a state murder trial. Plus, an inducement like that wouldn't help the case against Banfield. Any plea the AP cute will be fair game for BB's defense attorney.

He is a federal law enforcement. A dirty cop. The feds can help if they wanted to help.

IRS enforcement. Implied to people he was FBI. Why would anyone help him? He's a loser killer from LI, what would be in it for them?

The could help get him. That is the point. Offer her citizenship. It would really be no big deal to them.

Fairfax County prosecutors have no power to offer anyone citizenship. And The US State Dept. sure the hell is not going to give the gift of citizenship to A MURDERER! You are nuts if you think they would. Why would the Biden administration want to have THAT on it's list of achievements?

Not going to happen.

Plus, as mentioned earlier, that sort of inducement would render her testimony completely untrustworthy by a jury. Not. Going. To. Happen.

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Everyone is going on about flipping the AP and offering her a plea deal. That can be picked apart just like offering her citizenship (after some jail time) as part of the plea.

BB was federal law enforcement. I could make the case that it is in the feds interests to put away this guy for life. He killed two people.

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Anonymous wrote:What am I missing here- if BB fires the first shot, why on earth would he ask the AP to get another gun? Why wouldn’t he, the trained LE, fire the second? If in a juror, what possible reasoning is there for that?

Yep.

2 guns vs 1 knife (if you buy the bs story that JR was the one who actually stabbed CB)
Makes no sense. Even if they try to argue that JR was still alive and trying to fight back. A trained cop (BB) would have just shot him again.

Someone screwed up the original plan. I think AP was supposed to have been the only shooter but choked.

BB was clearly the one that stabbed CB. That takes a certain level of dedication to be able to pull off.

Agree he is the likely stabber.

BB is not going to confess. Forensics can't easily prove who was the stabber. They can try with angles, heights, etc. Without testimony from the only other living person there, will be hard to make that case against him imho.

Will be interesting to see if Ring cameras caught shots and timing of cars arriving back, etc. Shame they did not have Alexa, etc., that has been helpful re: evidence in other cases. That the 4 year old was in the house takes the depravity to the next level for sure.

Why do you say that forensics can't easily prove who the stabber is, PP? Wouldn't/shouldn't there be fingerprints and possibly some blood from the stabber (they often cut themselves during stabbings)?

A knife is easily wiped. Any injury could be explained by his "struggle" trying to save his wife's life. The room and BB were awash in blood, remember his heroically trying to administer "aid."

JR could have been induced to bring a knife as a prop for the "scene" as one PP speculated. Curious what happened to the knife and if it was found? Since the shooting case against AP is separate, we don't know much about the stabbing evidence. Very difficult to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that BB was the stabber without testimony, imo.

Not to trigger anyone, but I did click on one of the Winger links. That case was solved in part by testimony of a woman Winger had been having an affair with prior to the murder who came forward after years. Winger got too arrogant and was trying to civilly sue the employer of the patsy he tried to frame. No testimony yet re: the stabbing. BB and AP may have kept their plans tight. The whole sequence of 2 shots and 2 guns is odd, but, still not proof the knife was in BB's hand.

Okay, but even if BB wiped the knife of prints, what evidence would there be that JR was the stabber as BB/AP claimed? Especially if no knife was found (how could a dead/incapacitated murderer disappear a knife?). Or are you saying that the scene was so bloody and chaotic that it would be very hard to prove exactly who did the stabbing?

Seems so. LE has been wanting to nail BB since the day of the killings. If they had a solid case to do so, they would arrest. Suggests they need more.

EMT said did not see the knife, does not mean it was not there somewhere. Someone shot in the head and someone stabbed in the neck bleed a LOT. They can say whatever about the stabbing, does not have to make sense. All that matters is solid proof that BB did the stabbing. If/when VA has that he will be taken into custody. The case could pend for years, we'll see.

They had @ 8 months before her visa expired and they picked her up. They knew her AP visa was expiring in October and having extended once there was no likely way to keep her here. She might have thought he'd marry her. If he intended to, he would have done so. So super trivial "gain" for 2 lives being snuffed out. Smh. BB was going to be rid of both women in short order. Is there someone else? If so, maybe that woman will come forward some day?

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Anonymous wrote:What am I missing here- if BB fires the first shot, why on earth would he ask the AP to get another gun? Why wouldn’t he, the trained LE, fire the second? If in a juror, what possible reasoning is there for that?

This is perhaps the most puzzling aspect of the whole thing. Hard to see any scenario where this makes sense.

There was already a gun in the room and even if BB claims he was too busy assisting CB to fend of JR with a 2nd round, he could have just told AP to use his gun that was already there. Introducing a 2nd gun defies logic.

According to the reports from 4/1, AP's attorney said she heard the sounds of flesh being hit. So, maybe the story is that JR and BB were in a physical fight... and BB told AP to get a gun. He was able to get off one bullet in the course of the flesh-hitting fight, but very quickly thereafter (as BB was nursing his wounds), AP pulled the trigger (to defend both CB and BB from JR), killing JR.

If JR was (supposedly) getting the better of BB with the fight, then BB would need to call in AP to help.

That's the only explanation I can think of.

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Anonymous wrote:Is the trial set to April 15? Where?

No, April 15 is when the grand jury will hear the evidence to see if there’s enough for her to be indicted in the circuit court… if they move forward which hopefully they will, they will then set a trial date. No way will that be anytime soon.

I don’t know where you found this info. I was there yesterday, and there’s no info in the VA court records that show a date in april 15.
But the judge yesterday already approved the process to move forward. That’s what was done yesterday.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone is going on about flipping the AP and offering her a plea deal. That can be picked apart just like offering her citizenship (after some jail time) as part of the plea.

BB was federal law enforcement. I could make the case that it is in the feds interests to put away this guy for life. He killed two people.

Plea deals are pretty routine. A state cannot offer US citizenship.

It's in everyone's interests to put him away. Will require solid proof that he was the stabber to do so.

People like him operate with a world view that rules don't apply to them. There may be other antisocial acts or abuse of power at IRS. Again, would likely take someone coming forward. That is not in the jurisdiction of the Commonwealth of VA.

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Anonymous wrote:Is the trial set to April 15? Where?

No, April 15 is when the grand jury will hear the evidence to see if there’s enough for her to be indicted in the circuit court… if they move forward which hopefully they will, they will then set a trial date. No way will that be anytime soon.

I don’t know where you found this info. I was there yesterday, and there’s no info in the VA court records that show a date in april 15.
But the judge yesterday already approved the process to move forward. That’s what was done yesterday.

It was in one of the news articles that it would go to a grand jury on April 15th. Grand jury proceedings do not show publicly.

https://www.wfxrtv.com/news/regional-news/virginia-news/au-pair-employer-visited-shooting-range-before-reston-murder-witness-says/

At a hearing on Monday, a judge found probable cause that Peres Magalhaes shot and killed Ryan. The charges against her were moved over to Fairfax County Circuit Court. Prosecutors will present them to a grand jury, which was set to meet on April 15. If indicted, a trial date for Peres Magalhaes will be set.

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I think AP goes to trial, is convicted, goes to jail.

Even if she doesn't flip and Fairfax Cnty prosecutors can't get enough evidence (yet) to charge BB with CB's murder... BB starts living his life without AP... 'cause it's hard to have a normal relationship with someone in prison.

So BB goes about his life... and finds another young, dumb hot woman to move into the house.

EVENTUALLY, AP finds out that BB is no longer visiting her and he has other priorities. Might make a person in prison think real hard about how unfair life has become... might make them think about making a phone call to someone in the Commonwealth's Attys Ofc.

So, even if BB is still out walking around and living his life, and psychologically manipulating the little girl... it's still possible his day of justice will come. The more he moves on while AP is in the slammer... the more likely she will have something to say.

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Anonymous wrote:I have so many questions about the second gun and the need for the AP to use it...

*Why would BB, a trained LEO with a service weapon on him which he had already used once, need assistance from his employee to access a second gun and finish off the "intruder" when he could have easily done that himself? What possible reason could he have thought up to give authorities for the need for assistance from the AP?

*Obviously, having the AP shoot the second gun was part of BB's plan, but how was BB planning to explain to authorities why his employee knew the location of the gun, the combination of the safe, and how to use the gun? It can't be common practice for households that employ au pairs and have gun safes with guns in them to instruct the au pair on how to access and use the gun. You might instruct them on how to use an alarm system or dial 911 but teach them how to access a gun? Doesn't make sense.

*It seems like BB wanted the AP to be complicit in the shooting, which is why he took her to the gun range to train her on how to use the gun, subsequently purchased a gun for her to use, told her how to access it, and then told her to use it on Joe. But what convoluted reason could he have possibly given her for why she needed to do that in the first place? Was he thinking it would somehow make him personally less culpable if there was a second shooter?

Make it make sense!

I have had the same questions. If they thought Ryan was still a threat even after being shot/ blinded, why did they take the time for her to go to the safe get the code to open the safe, retrieve the gun and shoot it instead of him just shooting again. It just doesn’t make sense.

It makes perfect sense if you think of it more like a gang initiation. She would have reason to keep silent.

Aren't Law Enforcement Officers are trained to keep shooting until they have neutralized the threat? So, it really makes no sense for BB to stop with one shot... unless he is claiming he was in a physical fight with JR or JR knocked BB's gun away. I haven't heard that. So, the only other reason for BB to seek help from the AP to finish the job of killing JR is for her to get her hands dirty as well.

Since BB knows that HE stabbed CB, and AP knows that BB stabbed CB --- BB needed to bring AP into the crime as much as he was in it. She had to be willing to kill for him and then they would both claim self-defense.

Yep. And she did not realize her claim would be somewhat neutralized by being the 2nd shot. He was incapacitated already.

It's going to be hard to PROVE that he was the one communicating with JR, even if true. I think charging her first and trying to gain her testimony was the most prudent approach, especially since her visa was expiring. If she left and went back to Brazil would have been an even higher chance of BB skating.

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Anonymous wrote:I think AP goes to trial, is convicted, goes to jail.

Even if she doesn't flip and Fairfax Cnty prosecutors can't get enough evidence (yet) to charge BB with CB's murder... BB starts living his life without AP... 'cause it's hard to have a normal relationship with someone in prison.

So BB goes about his life... and finds another young, dumb hot woman to move into the house.

EVENTUALLY, AP finds out that BB is no longer visiting her and he has other priorities. Might make a person in prison think real hard about how unfair life has become... might make them think about making a phone call to someone in the Commonwealth's Attys Ofc.

So, even if BB is still out walking around and living his life, and psychologically manipulating the little girl... it's still possible his day of justice will come. The more he moves on while AP is in the slammer... the more likely she will have something to say.

Quite possibly. She may also flip prior, she doesn't have that vibe though. Last of the Real Ones is like neurolinguistic programming to hang tough. If that was BB too, clever touch to add a bit of repeat brainwashing re: their "love." He may one day tell someone else how clever he was, we shall see.

Not sure how re: goes back to any sort of career? Anyone have thoughts re: that?

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BB was rumored to have relationships with women his own age, too. Perhaps some pillow talk one day will lead to his arrest.

Short of someone testifying what they saw or what they were told, hard to prove knife in his hand. Even re: angles and depth of wounds, BB and JR were more or less the same size, one was not 5'1". BB thought of a lot of details.

AP may have been a means to an end, not a driver of his plot initially. Hard to try to think like him or to even guess how long he had been considering this. His not marrying her to keep her in US may be a tell. She could have been a buxom piece on his chessboard.

So sad for CB, JR and the child.