Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

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Anonymous wrote:If there a reason the 2014 girls are struggling? Is it just a dead year for the club?


So, a dead year is defined as 11 years not dominating the competition?

Is there any room for development?

You actually don’t reach your peak by being the best.

The SYC 2014 boys will wipe away all competition for the next 3 years. Let’s gauge where they are individually in 6 and we how the “developmental” process was for them.



Agreed. Everyone talks about development. Sometimes developing properly means losing in the short term. Also the 2014 girls were struggling in prior years, not a ton of depth but a lot of talent there


Interestingly enough, the 2014 girls is the one great team Potomac has ... wonder how well it will do next year since GA Aspire is not as good as ECNL


This team is such an interesting one. You can bet that Bethesda coaches have tried to entice some of their players over to strengthen its own 2014 year, but from what I've heard the Potomac 2014s are determined to stick together for now. They seem to be doing really well. I do wonder what would happen if a strong Bethesda team banded together in that way and jumped ship (like some Rush girls did to Potomac) if they had concerns about one of the many BSC coaches mentioned on this forum. Clearly success can be had outside of the club, and the BSC 2014s have not been able to beat the Potomac 2014s. There is strength in numbers, but doubtful a strong BSC core will ever jump together because it would be deemed too risky by the parents. It's an interesting thought though, looking at this Potomac 2014 model. Good point from PP that seeing if their development continues at this level in Aspire will be interesting to watch.
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Anonymous wrote:If there a reason the 2014 girls are struggling? Is it just a dead year for the club?


So, a dead year is defined as 11 years not dominating the competition?

Is there any room for development?

You actually don’t reach your peak by being the best.

The SYC 2014 boys will wipe away all competition for the next 3 years. Let’s gauge where they are individually in 6 and we how the “developmental” process was for them.



Agreed. Everyone talks about development. Sometimes developing properly means losing in the short term. Also the 2014 girls were struggling in prior years, not a ton of depth but a lot of talent there


Interestingly enough, the 2014 girls is the one great team Potomac has ... wonder how well it will do next year since GA Aspire is not as good as ECNL


This team is such an interesting one. You can bet that Bethesda coaches have tried to entice some of their players over to strengthen its own 2014 year, but from what I've heard the Potomac 2014s are determined to stick together for now. They seem to be doing really well. I do wonder what would happen if a strong Bethesda team banded together in that way and jumped ship (like some Rush girls did to Potomac) if they had concerns about one of the many BSC coaches mentioned on this forum. Clearly success can be had outside of the club, and the BSC 2014s have not been able to beat the Potomac 2014s. There is strength in numbers, but doubtful a strong BSC core will ever jump together because it would be deemed too risky by the parents. It's an interesting thought though, looking at this Potomac 2014 model. Good point from PP that seeing if their development continues at this level in Aspire will be interesting to watch.


But with the age change next year, I don't see many teams sticking together for the long term anyways.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If there a reason the 2014 girls are struggling? Is it just a dead year for the club?


So, a dead year is defined as 11 years not dominating the competition?

Is there any room for development?

You actually don’t reach your peak by being the best.

The SYC 2014 boys will wipe away all competition for the next 3 years. Let’s gauge where they are individually in 6 and we how the “developmental” process was for them.



Agreed. Everyone talks about development. Sometimes developing properly means losing in the short term. Also the 2014 girls were struggling in prior years, not a ton of depth but a lot of talent there


Interestingly enough, the 2014 girls is the one great team Potomac has ... wonder how well it will do next year since GA Aspire is not as good as ECNL


This team is such an interesting one. You can bet that Bethesda coaches have tried to entice some of their players over to strengthen its own 2014 year, but from what I've heard the Potomac 2014s are determined to stick together for now. They seem to be doing really well. I do wonder what would happen if a strong Bethesda team banded together in that way and jumped ship (like some Rush girls did to Potomac) if they had concerns about one of the many BSC coaches mentioned on this forum. Clearly success can be had outside of the club, and the BSC 2014s have not been able to beat the Potomac 2014s. There is strength in numbers, but doubtful a strong BSC core will ever jump together because it would be deemed too risky by the parents. It's an interesting thought though, looking at this Potomac 2014 model. Good point from PP that seeing if their development continues at this level in Aspire will be interesting to watch.


I am glad little girl soccer excites you this much. Congratulations to the one team that they have that is performing well!
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If there a reason the 2014 girls are struggling? Is it just a dead year for the club?


So, a dead year is defined as 11 years not dominating the competition?

Is there any room for development?

You actually don’t reach your peak by being the best.

The SYC 2014 boys will wipe away all competition for the next 3 years. Let’s gauge where they are individually in 6 and we how the “developmental” process was for them.



Agreed. Everyone talks about development. Sometimes developing properly means losing in the short term. Also the 2014 girls were struggling in prior years, not a ton of depth but a lot of talent there


Interestingly enough, the 2014 girls is the one great team Potomac has ... wonder how well it will do next year since GA Aspire is not as good as ECNL


This team is such an interesting one. You can bet that Bethesda coaches have tried to entice some of their players over to strengthen its own 2014 year, but from what I've heard the Potomac 2014s are determined to stick together for now. They seem to be doing really well. I do wonder what would happen if a strong Bethesda team banded together in that way and jumped ship (like some Rush girls did to Potomac) if they had concerns about one of the many BSC coaches mentioned on this forum. Clearly success can be had outside of the club, and the BSC 2014s have not been able to beat the Potomac 2014s. There is strength in numbers, but doubtful a strong BSC core will ever jump together because it would be deemed too risky by the parents. It's an interesting thought though, looking at this Potomac 2014 model. Good point from PP that seeing if their development continues at this level in Aspire will be interesting to watch.


I am glad little girl soccer excites you this much. Congratulations to the one team that they have that is performing well!


I guess this was supposed to be a burn? But it looks like "little girl soccer" either excites or interests a whole lot of parents of little kid soccer players, which is why this forum exists and this thread is on page 135.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If there a reason the 2014 girls are struggling? Is it just a dead year for the club?


So, a dead year is defined as 11 years not dominating the competition?

Is there any room for development?

You actually don’t reach your peak by being the best.

The SYC 2014 boys will wipe away all competition for the next 3 years. Let’s gauge where they are individually in 6 and we how the “developmental” process was for them.



Agreed. Everyone talks about development. Sometimes developing properly means losing in the short term. Also the 2014 girls were struggling in prior years, not a ton of depth but a lot of talent there


Interestingly enough, the 2014 girls is the one great team Potomac has ... wonder how well it will do next year since GA Aspire is not as good as ECNL


This team is such an interesting one. You can bet that Bethesda coaches have tried to entice some of their players over to strengthen its own 2014 year, but from what I've heard the Potomac 2014s are determined to stick together for now. They seem to be doing really well. I do wonder what would happen if a strong Bethesda team banded together in that way and jumped ship (like some Rush girls did to Potomac) if they had concerns about one of the many BSC coaches mentioned on this forum. Clearly success can be had outside of the club, and the BSC 2014s have not been able to beat the Potomac 2014s. There is strength in numbers, but doubtful a strong BSC core will ever jump together because it would be deemed too risky by the parents. It's an interesting thought though, looking at this Potomac 2014 model. Good point from PP that seeing if their development continues at this level in Aspire will be interesting to watch.


I am glad little girl soccer excites you this much. Congratulations to the one team that they have that is performing well!


I guess this was supposed to be a burn? But it looks like "little girl soccer" either excites or interests a whole lot of parents of little kid soccer players, which is why this forum exists and this thread is on page 135.


reading is hard because not all the pages are about little girls thank you for the entertainment though
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If there a reason the 2014 girls are struggling? Is it just a dead year for the club?


So, a dead year is defined as 11 years not dominating the competition?

Is there any room for development?

You actually don’t reach your peak by being the best.

The SYC 2014 boys will wipe away all competition for the next 3 years. Let’s gauge where they are individually in 6 and we how the “developmental” process was for them.



Agreed. Everyone talks about development. Sometimes developing properly means losing in the short term. Also the 2014 girls were struggling in prior years, not a ton of depth but a lot of talent there


Interestingly enough, the 2014 girls is the one great team Potomac has ... wonder how well it will do next year since GA Aspire is not as good as ECNL


This team is such an interesting one. You can bet that Bethesda coaches have tried to entice some of their players over to strengthen its own 2014 year, but from what I've heard the Potomac 2014s are determined to stick together for now. They seem to be doing really well. I do wonder what would happen if a strong Bethesda team banded together in that way and jumped ship (like some Rush girls did to Potomac) if they had concerns about one of the many BSC coaches mentioned on this forum. Clearly success can be had outside of the club, and the BSC 2014s have not been able to beat the Potomac 2014s. There is strength in numbers, but doubtful a strong BSC core will ever jump together because it would be deemed too risky by the parents. It's an interesting thought though, looking at this Potomac 2014 model. Good point from PP that seeing if their development continues at this level in Aspire will be interesting to watch.


But with the age change next year, I don't see many teams sticking together for the long term anyways.


I suspect a lot of parents will push for their kids to play up, and at many clubs will get their way if a team has been doing well. Individual parents have been forcing that issue too. For example, BSC U12 has fourth graders on the team. I don't think the age change will make as much of an immediate difference for certain clubs as you might expect.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If there a reason the 2014 girls are struggling? Is it just a dead year for the club?


So, a dead year is defined as 11 years not dominating the competition?

Is there any room for development?

You actually don’t reach your peak by being the best.

The SYC 2014 boys will wipe away all competition for the next 3 years. Let’s gauge where they are individually in 6 and we how the “developmental” process was for them.



Agreed. Everyone talks about development. Sometimes developing properly means losing in the short term. Also the 2014 girls were struggling in prior years, not a ton of depth but a lot of talent there


Interestingly enough, the 2014 girls is the one great team Potomac has ... wonder how well it will do next year since GA Aspire is not as good as ECNL


This team is such an interesting one. You can bet that Bethesda coaches have tried to entice some of their players over to strengthen its own 2014 year, but from what I've heard the Potomac 2014s are determined to stick together for now. They seem to be doing really well. I do wonder what would happen if a strong Bethesda team banded together in that way and jumped ship (like some Rush girls did to Potomac) if they had concerns about one of the many BSC coaches mentioned on this forum. Clearly success can be had outside of the club, and the BSC 2014s have not been able to beat the Potomac 2014s. There is strength in numbers, but doubtful a strong BSC core will ever jump together because it would be deemed too risky by the parents. It's an interesting thought though, looking at this Potomac 2014 model. Good point from PP that seeing if their development continues at this level in Aspire will be interesting to watch.


But with the age change next year, I don't see many teams sticking together for the long term anyways.


I suspect a lot of parents will push for their kids to play up, and at many clubs will get their way if a team has been doing well. Individual parents have been forcing that issue too. For example, BSC U12 has fourth graders on the team. I don't think the age change will make as much of an immediate difference for certain clubs as you might expect.


Interesting. I heard the boys U12 top team has been lost a few players because of parents desire for their kids to play up in 11v11.

Nevertheless, parents are going to learn the hard way about thinking they know more about development than people who have actually developed hundreds of players.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If there a reason the 2014 girls are struggling? Is it just a dead year for the club?


So, a dead year is defined as 11 years not dominating the competition?

Is there any room for development?

You actually don’t reach your peak by being the best.

The SYC 2014 boys will wipe away all competition for the next 3 years. Let’s gauge where they are individually in 6 and we how the “developmental” process was for them.



Agreed. Everyone talks about development. Sometimes developing properly means losing in the short term. Also the 2014 girls were struggling in prior years, not a ton of depth but a lot of talent there


Interestingly enough, the 2014 girls is the one great team Potomac has ... wonder how well it will do next year since GA Aspire is not as good as ECNL


This team is such an interesting one. You can bet that Bethesda coaches have tried to entice some of their players over to strengthen its own 2014 year, but from what I've heard the Potomac 2014s are determined to stick together for now. They seem to be doing really well. I do wonder what would happen if a strong Bethesda team banded together in that way and jumped ship (like some Rush girls did to Potomac) if they had concerns about one of the many BSC coaches mentioned on this forum. Clearly success can be had outside of the club, and the BSC 2014s have not been able to beat the Potomac 2014s. There is strength in numbers, but doubtful a strong BSC core will ever jump together because it would be deemed too risky by the parents. It's an interesting thought though, looking at this Potomac 2014 model. Good point from PP that seeing if their development continues at this level in Aspire will be interesting to watch.


But with the age change next year, I don't see many teams sticking together for the long term anyways.


I suspect a lot of parents will push for their kids to play up, and at many clubs will get their way if a team has been doing well. Individual parents have been forcing that issue too. For example, BSC U12 has fourth graders on the team. I don't think the age change will make as much of an immediate difference for certain clubs as you might expect.


Interesting. I heard the boys U12 top team has been lost a few players because of parents desire for their kids to play up in 11v11.

Nevertheless, parents are going to learn the hard way about thinking they know more about development than people who have actually developed hundreds of players.


Forgot to add that the club held their line and let those kids walk.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If there a reason the 2014 girls are struggling? Is it just a dead year for the club?


So, a dead year is defined as 11 years not dominating the competition?

Is there any room for development?

You actually don’t reach your peak by being the best.

The SYC 2014 boys will wipe away all competition for the next 3 years. Let’s gauge where they are individually in 6 and we how the “developmental” process was for them.



Agreed. Everyone talks about development. Sometimes developing properly means losing in the short term. Also the 2014 girls were struggling in prior years, not a ton of depth but a lot of talent there


Interestingly enough, the 2014 girls is the one great team Potomac has ... wonder how well it will do next year since GA Aspire is not as good as ECNL


This team is such an interesting one. You can bet that Bethesda coaches have tried to entice some of their players over to strengthen its own 2014 year, but from what I've heard the Potomac 2014s are determined to stick together for now. They seem to be doing really well. I do wonder what would happen if a strong Bethesda team banded together in that way and jumped ship (like some Rush girls did to Potomac) if they had concerns about one of the many BSC coaches mentioned on this forum. Clearly success can be had outside of the club, and the BSC 2014s have not been able to beat the Potomac 2014s. There is strength in numbers, but doubtful a strong BSC core will ever jump together because it would be deemed too risky by the parents. It's an interesting thought though, looking at this Potomac 2014 model. Good point from PP that seeing if their development continues at this level in Aspire will be interesting to watch.


But with the age change next year, I don't see many teams sticking together for the long term anyways.


I suspect a lot of parents will push for their kids to play up, and at many clubs will get their way if a team has been doing well. Individual parents have been forcing that issue too. For example, BSC U12 has fourth graders on the team. I don't think the age change will make as much of an immediate difference for certain clubs as you might expect.


Poor example. If you are insinuating those parents forced the issue, you are wrong. The club came to those parents just as the club has done with other current players. If the player performs, there shouldn’t be issue. Playing up occurs at countless clubs around the area.
Anonymous
Have you been following along. This thread is called Bethesda on its way down. Pretty sure egotistical coaches aren’t accepting the “demands” of little boys and girls parents. They aren’t catering to parents, they want wins anyway they see fit
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If there a reason the 2014 girls are struggling? Is it just a dead year for the club?


So, a dead year is defined as 11 years not dominating the competition?

Is there any room for development?

You actually don’t reach your peak by being the best.

The SYC 2014 boys will wipe away all competition for the next 3 years. Let’s gauge where they are individually in 6 and we how the “developmental” process was for them.



Agreed. Everyone talks about development. Sometimes developing properly means losing in the short term. Also the 2014 girls were struggling in prior years, not a ton of depth but a lot of talent there


Interestingly enough, the 2014 girls is the one great team Potomac has ... wonder how well it will do next year since GA Aspire is not as good as ECNL


This team is such an interesting one. You can bet that Bethesda coaches have tried to entice some of their players over to strengthen its own 2014 year, but from what I've heard the Potomac 2014s are determined to stick together for now. They seem to be doing really well. I do wonder what would happen if a strong Bethesda team banded together in that way and jumped ship (like some Rush girls did to Potomac) if they had concerns about one of the many BSC coaches mentioned on this forum. Clearly success can be had outside of the club, and the BSC 2014s have not been able to beat the Potomac 2014s. There is strength in numbers, but doubtful a strong BSC core will ever jump together because it would be deemed too risky by the parents. It's an interesting thought though, looking at this Potomac 2014 model. Good point from PP that seeing if their development continues at this level in Aspire will be interesting to watch.


But with the age change next year, I don't see many teams sticking together for the long term anyways.


I suspect a lot of parents will push for their kids to play up, and at many clubs will get their way if a team has been doing well. Individual parents have been forcing that issue too. For example, BSC U12 has fourth graders on the team. I don't think the age change will make as much of an immediate difference for certain clubs as you might expect.


Poor example. If you are insinuating those parents forced the issue, you are wrong. The club came to those parents just as the club has done with other current players. If the player performs, there shouldn’t be issue. Playing up occurs at countless clubs around the area.


Sorry but not a poor example when you know the back story.
Anonymous
Question: What are your thoughts on a team playing up a year but then bringing in several players from that age group to reinforce the team?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Question: What are your thoughts on a team playing up a year but then bringing in several players from that age group to reinforce the team?


Depends on the situation. We are still in YDP so I think this only applies to the 2016’s who would not have any competition playing their own age group.

The hard part is if there are 9 kids ready to play up a year and three are not, the 3 parents who are not ready are going to sit in their feelings more than trusting the process and developing at their own pace on a lower level team.

I grew up watching Saved By the Bell and that show shows the equivalent emotional maturity of 98% of high-level soccer players parents, not just BSC parents.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Question: What are your thoughts on a team playing up a year but then bringing in several players from that age group to reinforce the team?


Are you referring to the 3 2015 players helping out the BSC 2014 E1s this weekend?
Anonymous
Are you referring to the 2016s playing up but using several 2015s in their roster just to win while siting 6 kids in the bench?

As a 2016 parent, I think that’s cheating

Anonymous wrote:Question: What are your thoughts on a team playing up a year but then bringing in several players from that age group to reinforce the team?
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