Are we abandoning Israel?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good, we need to distance ourselves from whatever disgusting thing this is

This picture of an Israeli settler harassing a Palestinian women is presently on the frant page of reddit with more than 6000 comments, none of them good. The tide of public opinion has really turned on Israel. That's going to be a problem for Israel for a very long time. And this is a very powerful picture. I suspect this will be an iconic photo.

These settlers are essentially terrorist proxy group of Israel. And there are over 750,000 of them of which is frightening enough.

Everyone of them have to be removed.

[Anonymous]

Biggest Republican donors in the first quarter of 2026:

— Miriam Adelson, $41 million
— Andreessen Horowitz, $28 million
— Jeff Yass, $21 million
— Dick + Liz Uihlein, $19 million
— Paul Singer, $17 million

Hah, good luck trying to abandon Israel

[Anonymous]

This was written by journalist Jonathan Chait, a jewish zionist who has never written the words "Gaza genocide" in the first person as if he meant it, which is basically journalistic malpractice at this point. Keep that in mind when you read the following. Loads of desperation and dismissal of the anti-zionist wing of the Democratic Party even as they're winning election after election. Zionism in America is an endangered idea.


The Atlantic: Israel Moderates Are Losing the Democratic Party
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/04/hasan-piker-israel-democrats/686828/

Hasan Piker has attracted millions of followers across multiple social-media platforms, making him one of the most popular left-wing streamers. He has been the subject of several flattering magazine profiles that have lingered over what they describe as his handsome looks and bodybuilder physique. Some progressives see him as their long-sought entry point into alternative media that can reach a young, mainly male, audience.

But he is most important as a stand-in for a fight over whether the Democratic Party should be open to, or even dominated by, militant anti-Zionism.

A debate over American policy toward Israel is likely to divide the party in the next presidential-primary cycle even more clearly than Medicare for All divided it in 2020—even as many voters aren’t invested in the debate at all. The Democrats’ establishment opposes terrorism and backs a two-state solution; [Hasan] Piker and his allies want to cast that position as de facto support for the status quo, which is a single state controlled by Israel.

If the establishment has any hope of holding on to the party, rather than surrendering it to the Piker wing, it will need to defy that characterization by recognizing that facts on the ground have changed. Political morals and public opinion are pushing in the same direction: ending American financial support for Israel.
For decades, the Democratic Party’s consensus on Israel has combined diplomatic, military, and economic support, including several billion dollars in annual aid, and a friendly push for a two-state solution. In theory, Democrats have supported the national aspirations of both Israelis and Palestinians while giving themselves room to condemn Palestinian terrorism along with the excesses of Israel’s occupation and West Bank settlement project.

At the same time, Israel’s standing with the American public has cratered. In four years, its favorability in one Pew Research Center survey plunged from 55 percent to 37 percent. The trend is reflected in other polls, and it has a steep age gradient. Young people in both parties now feel overwhelmingly negative toward it.

If moderate Democrats continue to support giving Israel (which is getting more unpopular) military aid (which is broadly unpopular), they will sentence themselves to obsolescence.

The most essential task for liberal Zionists is to separate their ambitions from the stubborn realities of Israel’s government. Liberal Zionists can say that they oppose the status quo and favor two independent states, but as Israel’s willingness to trade land for peace recedes further into historical memory, those pleas sound detached from reality. The traditional Democratic posture is becoming outright impossible as long as the party continues to support sending billions of dollars to Israel every year.

The winning alternative to embracing uncompromising Palestinian nationalism will not be reviving the American partnership with Netanyahu, or one of his would-be successors (the most plausible of whom, Naftali Bennett, opposes any Palestinian state). It will be pulling up stakes from the Middle East and letting Israelis and Palestinians figure it out for themselves.

Israel has alienated public opinion, a shift that began even before Israel encouraged and joined in a potentially disastrous war in Iran. Instead of meeting pro-Palestine activism with defiance, the more intelligent strategy for moderate Democrats would be to sever their political liabilities and compromise with public opinion.

Israel has alienated public opinion, a shift that began even before Israel encouraged and joined in a potentially disastrous war in Iran. Instead of meeting pro-Palestine activism with defiance, the more intelligent strategy for moderate Democrats would be to sever their political liabilities and compromise with public opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine thinking that you sitting there for years watching Wolf "AIPAC/Jerusalem Post" Blitzer or reading trash like Tom Friedman, are the "informed" ones, but the kids seeing things like this are "brainwashed":

Zionist settlers loot and steal Palestinian home in Jerusalem. They return an empty milk bottle to the owner.

Do you even understand how grotesque and depraved you are by trying to convince anyone this is some rare occurrence when it's what israel always was? Demons no one wanted and Palestine ended up with these monsters rather than have Europe be forced to give their own land.

-Unhinged

Why didn’t they stop those guys?

I guess we should keep quoting the pp question of, "Why didn’t they stop those guys?"

Here's another answer

Extremist settlers broke into Palestinian homes and sheep pens in Al-Mirkaz in the South Hebron Hills today, apparently accompanied by [reservist/off duty?] IDF soldiers in what residents and their lawyer said was an attempt to steal their sheep...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good, we need to distance ourselves from whatever disgusting thing this is

This picture of an Israeli settler harassing a Palestinian women is presently on the frant page of reddit with more than 6000 comments, none of them good. The tide of public opinion has really turned on Israel. That's going to be a problem for Israel for a very long time. And this is a very powerful picture. I suspect this will be an iconic photo.

That's because the Israeli Ambassador to Italy made a big deal claiming that it was an AI generated antisemitic image because the settler was too ugly and wouldn't wear a wedding band and bracelet, or something like that.

The Italian magazine then released the verified legitimate video the still was taken from. Mic drop

The video makes the picture even worse by the way.

im actually super confused by the photo- why is this man videoing this woman, is he just calling her names, she look very defeated- is she being forced from her home? what is the context?? and yes, it is unfortunate that this particular man is very ugly.

[Anonymous]

No more US military aid to Israel
April 15, 2026
By: Sen. Sanders; The Guardian

The time is long overdue for members of Congress to listen to the American people and end US military aid to the extremist Netanyahu government

I am a proud Jewish-American. My father fled Poland in 1921 to escape poverty and antisemitism. Those in his family who stayed were murdered by the Nazis. Since childhood, I have known very well where antisemitism, racism, fanaticism and demagoguery lead.

So let me be clear. Speaking out against the horrific and inhumane actions of Israel, and its extremist leader, Benjamin Netanyahu, is not antisemitic. Speaking out about the dangerous and destructive role that Israel plays in shaping US foreign and military policy is not antisemitic. It is, in fact, what every member of Congress and every American should be doing.

On 7 October 2023, Hamas, a terrorist organization, attacked Israel. They killed more than 1,200 innocent men, women and children and took hundreds of hostages. Like any other country, Israel had the absolute right to respond to the Hamas attack. But they did not have the right to violate international law and wage an all-out war of enormous destruction against the entire Palestinian people – in what experts have correctly concluded is a genocide.

They did not have the right, out of a population of 2.2 million, to kill more than 72,000 Palestinians in Gaza and wound over 170,000 – the majority of whom are women, children and the elderly. They did not have the right to destroy almost all of Gaza’s infrastructure, including its water and sewer systems and its supply of electricity.

They did not have the right to demolish every one of Gaza’s 12 universities, along with hundreds of schools – dismantling their entire educational system. They did not have the right to damage or destroy over 90% of the housing units in Gaza, resulting in the vast majority of the population now sleeping in tents.

They did not have the right to damage or destroy 94% of the hospitals in Gaza and kill 1,700 healthcare workers. They did not have the right to impose a blockade, which prevented food, water, fuel and medicine from entering Gaza – resulting in thousands of Palestinians being diagnosed with malnutrition and hundreds actually starving to death.

That carnage has not stopped. Despite the so-called “ceasefire”, humanitarian aid is still far below what is needed and Israel continues to kill civilians.

But it’s not just Gaza. In the West Bank, in direct violation of international law that protects Palestinian territory, Israeli soldiers and settlers have killed 1,071 Palestinians, including 233 children, since October 2023. During that period, they have demolished more than 6,000 Palestinian homes and established more than 200 new illegal settlements and outposts in Palestinian territory.

This is not just the action of extremist settlers. This is government policy. Netanyahu’s security cabinet has approved the most sweeping changes to the West Bank’s legal status since 1967 – removing nearly all constraints on settlement expansion. Netanyahu himself declared: “There will never be a Palestinian state.” His finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich, bragged that new settlement construction would “bury” the idea of a Palestinian state.

Further, we now know that Netanyahu convinced Trump to start an unprovoked and unconstitutional war on Iran. This war, in violation of international law, has already resulted in the deaths of thousands of civilians, including hundreds of children in Iran and Lebanon, 26 Israeli civilians and 13 American soldiers. All over the world, billions of innocent people are suffering the economic consequences of this war, with higher prices and scarcity of basic goods.

But for Netanyahu, Gaza was not enough. Iran was not enough. He is now waging a full-blown war of expansion against Lebanon. That war has not only killed more than 2,000 people, but has resulted in Israel occupying 14% of Lebanese territory.

The Israeli defense minister, Israel Katz, has announced that all Lebanese border villages will be demolished – his exact words – following the “model in Gaza”. Finance Minister Smotrich has warned that Dahiyeh, a suburb of south Beirut, “will look like Khan Younis” – a city in Gaza that Israel reduced to rubble.

These are not threats. They are promises.

Given the horrific and illegal behavior of the Netanyahu government over the last three years, the American people have had enough.

Support for Israel in this country has plummeted. Today, according to a recent Pew poll, 80% of Democrats now have an unfavorable opinion of Israel and 41% of Republicans share that view – and the numbers among young people are even higher. A recent Quinnipiac poll also found that 60% – including three-quarters of Democrats and two-thirds of independents – oppose the US sending arms to Israel.

That is why this Wednesday, I will be forcing the Senate to vote on two Joint Resolutions of Disapproval – the only formal mechanism Congress has to block an arms sale. The first would block the sale of $151.8m in 1,000-pound bombs.

The second would block $295m in bulldozers – the machines used to demolish homes in the West Bank and Gaza and make a Palestinian state physically impossible. These are not defensive weapons. They are the instruments of ethnic cleansing.

The time is long overdue for members of Congress to listen to the American people and end US military aid to the extremist Netanyahu government.

I hope my colleagues will join me in supporting these resolutions.

[Anonymous]

I started out with several years of being baptized, Sunday schooled and an Episcopalian confirmation, but after my dad had an affair with another mom at church and my mom left him … no more church.

What happened was that very shortly my mom ended up marrying her boss, a lawyer from a Brooklyn orthodox family with half a dozen sons where they were all lawyers, doctors or professors. All of them. No one in that family super liked my mom (the shiksa) but I can at least say that none of them were ever openly mean to me. I did grow up knowing a bunch of them as cousin-type relatives and they had various ties to Israel through meeting spouses at kibbutz etc. Stepdad gave me away at my wedding.

The craziest thing I have seen in 50 years is that while my Catholic Fox watching in-laws could never seem to pronounce half the Yiddish and Hebrew names in my stepdad’s family, they suddenly started asking me “how I felt” about Israel and getting oddly upset when they heard my adult daughter criticizing the country.

They whispered it to me like she was secretly on the crack or something. It was bizarre. They couldn’t tell you what Mazel Tov means.

[Anonymous]

To: Democratic Senate Leader Chuck Schumer
Step Down as Minority Leader!
https://sign.moveon.org/petitions/schumer


Ro Khanna:
Chuck Schumer was one of 7 Senate Democrats to vote to send bulldozers to Israel. 40 Democratic Senators voted no.

Mr. Schumer, you are out of touch with our base and the nation.

Step aside.

Callback to the #1 MIGA
Senator Schumer says God made him a guardian of Israel

[Anonymous]

The kind of insanity that erupts from Schumer’s mouth, Ted Cruz’s mouth, Lindsey Graham’s mouth, John Fetterman’s mouth is astonishing. In a sensible world, guy’s like these would have their asses thrown from the Senate chambers the first moment someone catches a video of them proclaiming that protecting a foreign nation is their #1 priority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The kind of insanity that erupts from Schumer’s mouth, Ted Cruz’s mouth, Lindsey Graham’s mouth, John Fetterman’s mouth is astonishing. In a sensible world, guy’s like these would have their asses thrown from the Senate chambers the first moment someone catches a video of them proclaiming that protecting a foreign nation is their #1 priority.

I read Kamala Harris’ book and the paragraphs and paragraphs she spends snivelling and grovelling over Israel, talking about how she has “loved” Israel even as a SMALL CHILD, it was really something.

[Anonymous]

But if we banded all those Ahkenazis, then they won’t be able to create their ultimate dreamscape, which is Eretz Israel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kind of insanity that erupts from Schumer’s mouth, Ted Cruz’s mouth, Lindsey Graham’s mouth, John Fetterman’s mouth is astonishing. In a sensible world, guy’s like these would have their asses thrown from the Senate chambers the first moment someone catches a video of them proclaiming that protecting a foreign nation is their #1 priority.

I read Kamala Harris’ book and the paragraphs and paragraphs she spends snivelling and grovelling over Israel, talking about how she has “loved” Israel even as a SMALL CHILD, it was really something.

I didn’t read the book, but not surprising. She was raised in a Baptist church. I am Harris’s age, and as a former Baptist myself, I can tell you that we were indoctrinated to love Israel at all cost. You couldn’t get your heaven if you were against God’s chosen people. As I got older and began to question, I asked if they’re chosen, what am I, mincemeat? Am I too not worthy. Some people don’t do introspection when it comes to indoctrinated religion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To: Democratic Senate Leader Chuck Schumer
Step Down as Minority Leader!
https://sign.moveon.org/petitions/schumer


Ro Khanna:
Chuck Schumer was one of 7 Senate Democrats to vote to send bulldozers to Israel. 40 Democratic Senators voted no.

Mr. Schumer, you are out of touch with our base and the nation.

Step aside.

Callback to the #1 MIGA
Senator Schumer says God made him a guardian of Israel

Can somebody please primary Chuck Schumer and win. He’s gotta go. We already know Fetterman is a lost cause and must go. Combs surprised me with his vote, and I don’t know anything about the two Nevada senators who voted to give Israel genocidal weapons in our name.

[Anonymous]

Any Senator that continues to support Israel needs to be primaried and taken out of office. America needs to look out after its own people, not a bunch of disgusting racist genocidal creeps half a world away.

[Anonymous]

American jews need to get on the right side of history and actively speak out against war crimes. Pro-Israel people are starting to say the quiet parts out loud, knowing that it's probably too late, but hoping to salvage some future relationship between America and Israel.

They're starting to acknowledge that it's Israel's fault, or at least they're trying to limit the damage by finding a fall guy in Netanyahu.

Possible off-ramps for American sentiment to ameliorate are disappearing rather quickly, and still there remains this wall of silence.

Here's an editorial from the pro-zionist South Florida Sun Sentinel


The dark side of the U.S.-Israel alliance | Editorial
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2026/04/17/the-dark-side-of-the-u-s-israel-alliance-editorial/

The close relationship between the U.S. and Israel has become foreboding for both nations.

That’s evident in a Pew Research Center poll, a month into President Trump’s unprovoked war in alliance with Israel, which has led to an alarming shift in U.S. public opinion.

Sixty percent of U.S. adults view Israel unfavorably, compared to 53% last year. Almost as many have no confidence in Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Eight in 10 Democrats and independents now disapprove of Israel, leaving Republicans, Jewish Americans and white evangelical Protestants as the only blocs still in support.

Republicans under age 50 disfavor Israel by 57%, compared to 50% last year.

[blah blah insert obligatory anti-semitism fatalism here blah blah]

This can’t be said enough: There are legitimate reasons having nothing to do with antisemitism to object to Israel’s conduct.

As in Gaza, the recent bombing of Lebanon has been indiscriminate, with unforgivable civilian casualties. Its creeping annexation of the West Bank is a massive affront to human rights.

The Knesset recently legalized the death penalty for Arabs who murder Jews, but not for the hoodlum Israeli settlers who have been killing West Bank residents to seize their land.

Even among Jews in America, the Pew poll found lukewarm 64% approval of Israel.

Yet Netanyahu shows no concern for how Israel’s excesses are fueling antisemitism in what has been Israel’s only dependable ally.

He counts on U.S. support for his warfare with heavy ordnance in Gaza and Lebanon, American forces in Iran and a reliable UN veto. The one nation that could restrain his worst impulses — us — enables them instead.

Netanyahu tempted Trump with fantastical visions of regime change in Iran if our two nations could just do enough damage there. That’s no way to win hearts and minds, and besides, it is failing.