Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

[Anonymous]

I just heard on the today show that her mother was not literally taken from her bed. She was taken from her home. The sheriff was speaking figuratively.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When someone is of sound mind, you cannot force a caregiver into their home. Check out the Elder forum for countless examples of this. People have the right to live as they choose, and assume the risks. Even adult protective services cannot force someone who has decision-masking capacity to accept help in the home. Family members may wring their hands, but there’s nothing they can do.

We have no idea of the particulars in Savannah Guthrie’s mom’s case. Please don’t turn this into a tiresome debate about whether she has enough help in her home, or should’ve been in assisted living.

+1. By all accounts, she lived in a beautiful home in Tucson (the absolute dream for many older people). She was obviously getting to church regularly and had friends. There is no earthly reason why anyone should think she should have been in assisted living. People have medical issues and all ages and most of them live at home.

This. Svannah did a televised visit back to show her hometown and it looked lovely. The mom spoke about her peaceful life gardening and watching nature in action, etc. She had many friends and was attending weekly church. She had adult children in the areas. The chances of this were a fraction of a percent. She was the best example of aging in place.

[Anonymous]

They are now reporting blood was found at crime scene.

[Anonymous]

If she had cameras in her home, wouldn't they show who enteted the home and abducted her?

[Anonymous]

She had security cameras so either they caught what happened, the person knew where they were and covered or avoided, or they were used against her. The risk with most cameras is someone can hack in and spy on you.

[Anonymous]

Did she live in a gated community? I live a gated golf community and we have three manned gates on 2 golf courses. We have cameras everywhere and all my neighbors have security cameras. I'm older and single so I feel secure. This is one reason I chose to live here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are now reporting blood was found at crime scene.

I was one pp who said that *grave concern meant there was blood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She had security cameras so either they caught what happened, the person knew where they were and covered or avoided, or they were used against her. The risk with most cameras is someone can hack in and spy on you.

I know I'm very naive about technology, but I didn't think of camera systems being hacked. Thanks for the info.

[Anonymous]

When tragedies go viral it always underscores the fact that backwater local law enforcement are all worthless morons stealing six figure compensations and driving around in $80,000 Chevy Tahoes. The only crimes they ever “solve” are Walmart shoplifters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When someone is of sound mind, you cannot force a caregiver into their home. Check out the Elder forum for countless examples of this. People have the right to live as they choose, and assume the risks. Even adult protective services cannot force someone who has decision-masking capacity to accept help in the home. Family members may wring their hands, but there’s nothing they can do.

We have no idea of the particulars in Savannah Guthrie’s mom’s case. Please don’t turn this into a tiresome debate about whether she has enough help in her home, or should’ve been in assisted living.

The age and health described in this thread is that of someone who needs full-time help. A frail 84 year old should not be living alone in an isolated huge house. It’s a recipe for disaster. And I guarantee the other allegedly nearby family didn’t live they close and rarely visited. The NBC gals daily phone calls to her mom from 2,500 miles away are not a substitute for in-home care she needed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When tragedies go viral it always underscores the fact that backwater local law enforcement are all worthless morons stealing six figure compensations and driving around in $80,000 Chevy Tahoes. The only crimes they ever “solve” are Walmart shoplifters.

If they don't find her within the first 48 hours it's not a good look.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When someone is of sound mind, you cannot force a caregiver into their home. Check out the Elder forum for countless examples of this. People have the right to live as they choose, and assume the risks. Even adult protective services cannot force someone who has decision-masking capacity to accept help in the home. Family members may wring their hands, but there’s nothing they can do.

We have no idea of the particulars in Savannah Guthrie’s mom’s case. Please don’t turn this into a tiresome debate about whether she has enough help in her home, or should’ve been in assisted living.

The age and health described in this thread is that of someone who needs full-time help. A frail 84 year old should not be living alone in an isolated huge house. It’s a recipe for disaster. And I guarantee the other allegedly nearby family didn’t live they close and rarely visited. The NBC gals daily phone calls to her mom from 2,500 miles away are not a substitute for in-home care she needed.

You’ve made it clear how you feel. Many of us disagree. I believe there’s another forum where you can discuss these issues. If you continue, I’ll go ahead and alert the moderator because you’re really trying to derail this thread and no one cares what you think of assisted living.

[Anonymous]

She must be able to still drive if she was expected to arrive at church and the children did not seem to be taking her that morning nor was anyone arriving to pick her up. The friends became worried when she was not at the service. Her children searched her home for one hour.

If they truly searched for one hour before alerting authorities, there couldn’t have been that much of an obvious crime scene.

[Anonymous]

As far as the public knows, this crime could be anything from completely random, crazed fan all the way up to targeted political statement. I feel really bad for their family and I pray that she is found safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When someone is of sound mind, you cannot force a caregiver into their home. Check out the Elder forum for countless examples of this. People have the right to live as they choose, and assume the risks. Even adult protective services cannot force someone who has decision-masking capacity to accept help in the home. Family members may wring their hands, but there’s nothing they can do.

We have no idea of the particulars in Savannah Guthrie’s mom’s case. Please don’t turn this into a tiresome debate about whether she has enough help in her home, or should’ve been in assisted living.

The age and health described in this thread is that of someone who needs full-time help. A frail 84 year old should not be living alone in an isolated huge house. It’s a recipe for disaster. And I guarantee the other allegedly nearby family didn’t live they close and rarely visited. The NBC gals daily phone calls to her mom from 2,500 miles away are not a substitute for in-home care she needed.

This is apparently not true in this case. Savannah's sister and her husband live 10-15 minutes away. They had taken her to dinner on Saturday night.