What HHI for financial aid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The HHI limit for FA is quite simply whatever the school wants it to be.

This isn't some Government program with a bunch of rigid guidelines. No one is overseeing the distribution of the funds to ensure that things are "fair".

They consider the applications and then distribute the money and "relative need" is just part of what they consider.

As a result, you have situations where families with high incomes get FA and those with lower ones do not. And they certainly get more than the families that don't apply.

Schools aren't immune to pleas from high earners based on special circumstances. Especially if they have some available money left in the FA budget.

Then there is the matter of "ethics". Today's WSJ has an article describing how large numbers are claiming they are disabled so they can get priority boarding and seating. They board the plane in wheelchairs and at the destination they walk off apparently being miraculously cured during the flight.

Many of us would never consider doing something like this. But there are many who see this as OK behavior. IMO we have more than a few people like this in the DMV.

The majority of disabled people who use a wheelchair in daily life can also walk a little. They use a chair when they're feeling poorly or have to walk a long distance or need to save energy.
Being able to walk a little doesn't mean they don't truly need a wheelchair. But these people face continued harassment from busybodies who think you should only use a wheelchair or services (or handicap parking) if you are entirely wheelchair bound. Those busybodies are the same as the people claiming you should only get FA if you are destitute.

+1. The rank ignorance of the judgmental people in these cases is the same.

No there is a WSJ article about the trend of people faking disability for airline benefits. You are the ignorant one for judging them without due diligence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The FA budget at most schools could be cut in half with no real impact on the families who actually need it.

Estimating that waste, fraud, and abuse is approximately 50% of the FA budget.

I’d say more like 70%.

Wow. Really? Why do you send your kids to a school that does that? What’s wrong with you?

+1. Imagine caring so little about your kids that you continue to send them to an institution that is riddled with massive fraud and corruption.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The HHI limit for FA is quite simply whatever the school wants it to be.

This isn't some Government program with a bunch of rigid guidelines. No one is overseeing the distribution of the funds to ensure that things are "fair".

They consider the applications and then distribute the money and "relative need" is just part of what they consider.

As a result, you have situations where families with high incomes get FA and those with lower ones do not. And they certainly get more than the families that don't apply.

Schools aren't immune to pleas from high earners based on special circumstances. Especially if they have some available money left in the FA budget.

Then there is the matter of "ethics". Today's WSJ has an article describing how large numbers are claiming they are disabled so they can get priority boarding and seating. They board the plane in wheelchairs and at the destination they walk off apparently being miraculously cured during the flight.

Many of us would never consider doing something like this. But there are many who see this as OK behavior. IMO we have more than a few people like this in the DMV.

The majority of disabled people who use a wheelchair in daily life can also walk a little. They use a chair when they're feeling poorly or have to walk a long distance or need to save energy.
Being able to walk a little doesn't mean they don't truly need a wheelchair. But these people face continued harassment from busybodies who think you should only use a wheelchair or services (or handicap parking) if you are entirely wheelchair bound. Those busybodies are the same as the people claiming you should only get FA if you are destitute.

+1. The rank ignorance of the judgmental people in these cases is the same.

No there is a WSJ article about the trend of people faking disability for airline benefits. You are the ignorant one for judging them without due diligence.

NP. You sound like a real peach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The FA budget at most schools could be cut in half with no real impact on the families who actually need it.

Estimating that waste, fraud, and abuse is approximately 50% of the FA budget.

I’d say more like 70%.

Wow. Really? Why do you send your kids to a school that does that? What’s wrong with you?

+1. Imagine caring so little about your kids that you continue to send them to an institution that is riddled with massive fraud and corruption.

You are describing all the DMV privates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The HHI limit for FA is quite simply whatever the school wants it to be.

This isn't some Government program with a bunch of rigid guidelines. No one is overseeing the distribution of the funds to ensure that things are "fair".

They consider the applications and then distribute the money and "relative need" is just part of what they consider.

As a result, you have situations where families with high incomes get FA and those with lower ones do not. And they certainly get more than the families that don't apply.

Schools aren't immune to pleas from high earners based on special circumstances. Especially if they have some available money left in the FA budget.

Then there is the matter of "ethics". Today's WSJ has an article describing how large numbers are claiming they are disabled so they can get priority boarding and seating. They board the plane in wheelchairs and at the destination they walk off apparently being miraculously cured during the flight.

Many of us would never consider doing something like this. But there are many who see this as OK behavior. IMO we have more than a few people like this in the DMV.

The majority of disabled people who use a wheelchair in daily life can also walk a little. They use a chair when they're feeling poorly or have to walk a long distance or need to save energy.
Being able to walk a little doesn't mean they don't truly need a wheelchair. But these people face continued harassment from busybodies who think you should only use a wheelchair or services (or handicap parking) if you are entirely wheelchair bound. Those busybodies are the same as the people claiming you should only get FA if you are destitute.

+1. The rank ignorance of the judgmental people in these cases is the same.

No there is a WSJ article about the trend of people faking disability for airline benefits. You are the ignorant one for judging them without due diligence.

NP. You sound like a real peach.

If you mean intelligent and informed on issues before I post about them, yes that is correct. Now go haul yourself down to the Waffle House for your daily feeding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The FA budget at most schools could be cut in half with no real impact on the families who actually need it.

Estimating that waste, fraud, and abuse is approximately 50% of the FA budget.

I’d say more like 70%.

Wow. Really? Why do you send your kids to a school that does that? What’s wrong with you?

+1. Imagine caring so little about your kids that you continue to send them to an institution that is riddled with massive fraud and corruption.

You are describing all the DMV privates.

Yeah but most parents don’t think their school is filled with fraud, waste, and abuse. You do and yet continue to send your kids there. So sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The FA budget at most schools could be cut in half with no real impact on the families who actually need it.

Estimating that waste, fraud, and abuse is approximately 50% of the FA budget.

I’d say more like 70%.

Wow. Really? Why do you send your kids to a school that does that? What’s wrong with you?

All the peer DMV private schools are the same so what are my options?

As you've said to others, you can do public school. Also some DMV privates don't do financial aid. Go to BASIS McLean.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The HHI limit for FA is quite simply whatever the school wants it to be.

This isn't some Government program with a bunch of rigid guidelines. No one is overseeing the distribution of the funds to ensure that things are "fair".

They consider the applications and then distribute the money and "relative need" is just part of what they consider.

As a result, you have situations where families with high incomes get FA and those with lower ones do not. And they certainly get more than the families that don't apply.

Schools aren't immune to pleas from high earners based on special circumstances. Especially if they have some available money left in the FA budget.

Then there is the matter of "ethics". Today's WSJ has an article describing how large numbers are claiming they are disabled so they can get priority boarding and seating. They board the plane in wheelchairs and at the destination they walk off apparently being miraculously cured during the flight.

Many of us would never consider doing something like this. But there are many who see this as OK behavior. IMO we have more than a few people like this in the DMV.

The majority of disabled people who use a wheelchair in daily life can also walk a little. They use a chair when they're feeling poorly or have to walk a long distance or need to save energy.
Being able to walk a little doesn't mean they don't truly need a wheelchair. But these people face continued harassment from busybodies who think you should only use a wheelchair or services (or handicap parking) if you are entirely wheelchair bound. Those busybodies are the same as the people claiming you should only get FA if you are destitute.

+1. The rank ignorance of the judgmental people in these cases is the same.

No there is a WSJ article about the trend of people faking disability for airline benefits. You are the ignorant one for judging them without due diligence.

LOL, as if WSJ is a reliable source on this topic. I'm aware of the article because when it came out all the disabled people in my life and in my newsfeed said "this article is trash and piles on the existing problem of disabled people getting harassed for supposedly faking." But sure, you read it in WSJ so you are the expert.

I'm sure WSJ will soon or has already done an article on the "trend" of people who accept financial aid instead of simply going back in time to change everything about their life path in order to pay full tuition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The FA budget at most schools could be cut in half with no real impact on the families who actually need it.

Estimating that waste, fraud, and abuse is approximately 50% of the FA budget.

You should actively tell your school this. Be the loudest voice in the room. Yell at someone in the FA office. Present all of this with apparently zero evidence. Accuse the administration of corruption.

You might be asked to leave the school, but you will have done a great service to…something.

Put down the wine.

The rebuttal of a person who has no rebuttal and knows their views are out of line with the norm.

The lack of transparency and accountability is what leads to waste, fraud, and abuse.

You are acting like you have some role in this process, such that the school is accountable to you. You do not have a role. The school owes you no transparency.

The decision-makers have information, and act on it. The fact you would make different decisions, were you in a role you do not hold, is does not mean there is fraud. You are trying to apply the principles of public service stewardship ("fraud waste and abuse") to a private process, which is a mismatch. Your recourse if you don't like the decisions of a private group is to leave the group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The FA budget at most schools could be cut in half with no real impact on the families who actually need it.

Estimating that waste, fraud, and abuse is approximately 50% of the FA budget.

I’d say more like 70%.

Wow. Really? Why do you send your kids to a school that does that? What’s wrong with you?

All the peer DMV private schools are the same so what are my options?

Homeschool. You can hire a teacher for the cost of tuition (especially for the cost of two tuitions). That you don’t and continue to send your kids daily to a corrupt institution is a major sign of neglect. Nothing moral or ethical about this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The HHI limit for FA is quite simply whatever the school wants it to be.

This isn't some Government program with a bunch of rigid guidelines. No one is overseeing the distribution of the funds to ensure that things are "fair".

They consider the applications and then distribute the money and "relative need" is just part of what they consider.

As a result, you have situations where families with high incomes get FA and those with lower ones do not. And they certainly get more than the families that don't apply.

Schools aren't immune to pleas from high earners based on special circumstances. Especially if they have some available money left in the FA budget.

Then there is the matter of "ethics". Today's WSJ has an article describing how large numbers are claiming they are disabled so they can get priority boarding and seating. They board the plane in wheelchairs and at the destination they walk off apparently being miraculously cured during the flight.

Many of us would never consider doing something like this. But there are many who see this as OK behavior. IMO we have more than a few people like this in the DMV.

The majority of disabled people who use a wheelchair in daily life can also walk a little. They use a chair when they're feeling poorly or have to walk a long distance or need to save energy.
Being able to walk a little doesn't mean they don't truly need a wheelchair. But these people face continued harassment from busybodies who think you should only use a wheelchair or services (or handicap parking) if you are entirely wheelchair bound. Those busybodies are the same as the people claiming you should only get FA if you are destitute.

+1. The rank ignorance of the judgmental people in these cases is the same.

No there is a WSJ article about the trend of people faking disability for airline benefits. You are the ignorant one for judging them without due diligence.

LOL, as if WSJ is a reliable source on this topic. I'm aware of the article because when it came out all the disabled people in my life and in my newsfeed said "this article is trash and piles on the existing problem of disabled people getting harassed for supposedly faking." But sure, you read it in WSJ so you are the expert.

I'm sure WSJ will soon or has already done an article on the "trend" of people who accept financial aid instead of simply going back in time to change everything about their life path in order to pay full tuition.

Explain to me how someone can walk through the airport independently without assistance but needs a wheelchair to get on and off an airplane? We both know this is nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The HHI limit for FA is quite simply whatever the school wants it to be.

This isn't some Government program with a bunch of rigid guidelines. No one is overseeing the distribution of the funds to ensure that things are "fair".

They consider the applications and then distribute the money and "relative need" is just part of what they consider.

As a result, you have situations where families with high incomes get FA and those with lower ones do not. And they certainly get more than the families that don't apply.

Schools aren't immune to pleas from high earners based on special circumstances. Especially if they have some available money left in the FA budget.

Then there is the matter of "ethics". Today's WSJ has an article describing how large numbers are claiming they are disabled so they can get priority boarding and seating. They board the plane in wheelchairs and at the destination they walk off apparently being miraculously cured during the flight.

Many of us would never consider doing something like this. But there are many who see this as OK behavior. IMO we have more than a few people like this in the DMV.

The majority of disabled people who use a wheelchair in daily life can also walk a little. They use a chair when they're feeling poorly or have to walk a long distance or need to save energy.
Being able to walk a little doesn't mean they don't truly need a wheelchair. But these people face continued harassment from busybodies who think you should only use a wheelchair or services (or handicap parking) if you are entirely wheelchair bound. Those busybodies are the same as the people claiming you should only get FA if you are destitute.

+1. The rank ignorance of the judgmental people in these cases is the same.

No there is a WSJ article about the trend of people faking disability for airline benefits. You are the ignorant one for judging them without due diligence.

LOL, as if WSJ is a reliable source on this topic. I'm aware of the article because when it came out all the disabled people in my life and in my newsfeed said "this article is trash and piles on the existing problem of disabled people getting harassed for supposedly faking." But sure, you read it in WSJ so you are the expert.

I'm sure WSJ will soon or has already done an article on the "trend" of people who accept financial aid instead of simply going back in time to change everything about their life path in order to pay full tuition.

Explain to me how someone can walk through the airport independently without assistance but needs a wheelchair to get on and off an airplane? We both know this is nonsense.

It makes as much sense as the families earning $300k - $400k who are on financial aid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The airlines are complicit in the priority seating scam because they allow. Of course, they are fenced in on what they can do because of regulations, threats of lawsuits and a press that is unlikely to take their side.

The schools, however, acre the deciders on to whom the distribute FA. They can chortle not believe what’s on the FA application or even disregard it.

What they shouldn’t want to happen is people losing faith in the “fairness” of what they are doing. FA grants to people that the jury of parents feel are not worthy or who don’t really need it is a problem.

They’ve already got a problem with many misunderstanding why FA exists and what it’s supposed to accomplish. If a large numbers of people believe that the only legitimate recipients of FA are poor kids, then the school is starting in the hole.

I look completely healthy. I'm not. I have a horrible illness that should have killed me by now. I spend a few hours a day on treatments. Its misreable. I cannot get on a plane or go to most indoor things for risk of illness. You have no idea what one might be struggling with.

FA should be for very low income families. If you have a $4+K morgage you need to make better life choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The airlines are complicit in the priority seating scam because they allow. Of course, they are fenced in on what they can do because of regulations, threats of lawsuits and a press that is unlikely to take their side.

The schools, however, acre the deciders on to whom the distribute FA. They can chortle not believe what’s on the FA application or even disregard it.

What they shouldn’t want to happen is people losing faith in the “fairness” of what they are doing. FA grants to people that the jury of parents feel are not worthy or who don’t really need it is a problem.

They’ve already got a problem with many misunderstanding why FA exists and what it’s supposed to accomplish. If a large numbers of people believe that the only legitimate recipients of FA are poor kids, then the school is starting in the hole.

I look completely healthy. I'm not. I have a horrible illness that should have killed me by now. I spend a few hours a day on treatments. Its misreable. I cannot get on a plane or go to most indoor things for risk of illness. You have no idea what one might be struggling with.

FA should be for very low income families. If you have a $4+K morgage you need to make better life choices.

The life choices we need to be discussing are those who continue to send their kids to a school that they “know” is full of waste, fraud, and abuse.

[Anonymous]

"FA should be for very low income families."

But it isn't. Very few low-income families receive it.