What HHI for financial aid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The HHI limit for FA is quite simply whatever the school wants it to be.

This isn't some Government program with a bunch of rigid guidelines. No one is overseeing the distribution of the funds to ensure that things are "fair".

They consider the applications and then distribute the money and "relative need" is just part of what they consider.

As a result, you have situations where families with high incomes get FA and those with lower ones do not. And they certainly get more than the families that don't apply.

Schools aren't immune to pleas from high earners based on special circumstances. Especially if they have some available money left in the FA budget.

Then there is the matter of "ethics". Today's WSJ has an article describing how large numbers are claiming they are disabled so they can get priority boarding and seating. They board the plane in wheelchairs and at the destination they walk off apparently being miraculously cured during the flight.

Many of us would never consider doing something like this. But there are many who see this as OK behavior. IMO we have more than a few people like this in the DMV.

Fully agree with your first part. On the ethics part, the closest comparison is people egregiously redshirting because they perceive it as an advantage, not FA. FA is closest to price differentiation for the same quality of seat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The FA budget at most schools could be cut in half with no real impact on the families who actually need it.

Estimating that waste, fraud, and abuse is approximately 50% of the FA budget.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The FA budget at most schools could be cut in half with no real impact on the families who actually need it.

Estimating that waste, fraud, and abuse is approximately 50% of the FA budget.

You should actively tell your school this. Be the loudest voice in the room. Yell at someone in the FA office. Present all of this with apparently zero evidence. Accuse the administration of corruption.

You might be asked to leave the school, but you will have done a great service to…something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The HHI limit for FA is quite simply whatever the school wants it to be.

This isn't some Government program with a bunch of rigid guidelines. No one is overseeing the distribution of the funds to ensure that things are "fair".

They consider the applications and then distribute the money and "relative need" is just part of what they consider.

As a result, you have situations where families with high incomes get FA and those with lower ones do not. And they certainly get more than the families that don't apply.

Schools aren't immune to pleas from high earners based on special circumstances. Especially if they have some available money left in the FA budget.

Then there is the matter of "ethics". Today's WSJ has an article describing how large numbers are claiming they are disabled so they can get priority boarding and seating. They board the plane in wheelchairs and at the destination they walk off apparently being miraculously cured during the flight.

Many of us would never consider doing something like this. But there are many who see this as OK behavior. IMO we have more than a few people like this in the DMV.

Fully agree with your first part. On the ethics part, the closest comparison is people egregiously redshirting because they perceive it as an advantage, not FA. FA is closest to price differentiation for the same quality of seat.

They are not the same at all.

FA is entirely about the parents, their financial status, and their ethical standards or lack there of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The FA budget at most schools could be cut in half with no real impact on the families who actually need it.

Estimating that waste, fraud, and abuse is approximately 50% of the FA budget.

You should actively tell your school this. Be the loudest voice in the room. Yell at someone in the FA office. Present all of this with apparently zero evidence. Accuse the administration of corruption.

You might be asked to leave the school, but you will have done a great service to…something.

Put down the wine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The HHI limit for FA is quite simply whatever the school wants it to be.

This isn't some Government program with a bunch of rigid guidelines. No one is overseeing the distribution of the funds to ensure that things are "fair".

They consider the applications and then distribute the money and "relative need" is just part of what they consider.

As a result, you have situations where families with high incomes get FA and those with lower ones do not. And they certainly get more than the families that don't apply.

Schools aren't immune to pleas from high earners based on special circumstances. Especially if they have some available money left in the FA budget.

Then there is the matter of "ethics". Today's WSJ has an article describing how large numbers are claiming they are disabled so they can get priority boarding and seating. They board the plane in wheelchairs and at the destination they walk off apparently being miraculously cured during the flight.

Many of us would never consider doing something like this. But there are many who see this as OK behavior. IMO we have more than a few people like this in the DMV.

Fully agree with your first part. On the ethics part, the closest comparison is people egregiously redshirting because they perceive it as an advantage, not FA. FA is closest to price differentiation for the same quality of seat.

They are not the same at all.

FA is entirely about the parents, their financial status, and their ethical standards or lack there of.

Lol not even close.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The FA budget at most schools could be cut in half with no real impact on the families who actually need it.

Estimating that waste, fraud, and abuse is approximately 50% of the FA budget.

You should actively tell your school this. Be the loudest voice in the room. Yell at someone in the FA office. Present all of this with apparently zero evidence. Accuse the administration of corruption.

You might be asked to leave the school, but you will have done a great service to…something.

Put down the wine.

The rebuttal of a person who has no rebuttal and knows their views are out of line with the norm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The FA budget at most schools could be cut in half with no real impact on the families who actually need it.

Estimating that waste, fraud, and abuse is approximately 50% of the FA budget.

You should actively tell your school this. Be the loudest voice in the room. Yell at someone in the FA office. Present all of this with apparently zero evidence. Accuse the administration of corruption.

You might be asked to leave the school, but you will have done a great service to…something.

Put down the wine.

The rebuttal of a person who has no rebuttal and knows their views are out of line with the norm.

The lack of transparency and accountability is what leads to waste, fraud, and abuse.

We all know the FA situation is a set up for these issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The FA budget at most schools could be cut in half with no real impact on the families who actually need it.

Estimating that waste, fraud, and abuse is approximately 50% of the FA budget.

You should actively tell your school this. Be the loudest voice in the room. Yell at someone in the FA office. Present all of this with apparently zero evidence. Accuse the administration of corruption.

You might be asked to leave the school, but you will have done a great service to…something.

Put down the wine.

The rebuttal of a person who has no rebuttal and knows their views are out of line with the norm.

The lack of transparency and accountability is what leads to waste, fraud, and abuse.

We all know the FA situation is a set up for these issues.

So, again, if there is such rampant fraud and abuse, you have plenty of outlets to share that information. Please do and report back.

[Anonymous]

The poster who is so aghast about the financial aid practices shared by a dozen or more DMV privates schools clearly needs to apply to be the Director of Aid at their kid's school.

Screaming endlessly into the void on DCUM on this subject isn't going to do anything but harm their own health. Stress is bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The HHI limit for FA is quite simply whatever the school wants it to be.

This isn't some Government program with a bunch of rigid guidelines. No one is overseeing the distribution of the funds to ensure that things are "fair".

They consider the applications and then distribute the money and "relative need" is just part of what they consider.

As a result, you have situations where families with high incomes get FA and those with lower ones do not. And they certainly get more than the families that don't apply.

Schools aren't immune to pleas from high earners based on special circumstances. Especially if they have some available money left in the FA budget.

Then there is the matter of "ethics". Today's WSJ has an article describing how large numbers are claiming they are disabled so they can get priority boarding and seating. They board the plane in wheelchairs and at the destination they walk off apparently being miraculously cured during the flight.

Many of us would never consider doing something like this. But there are many who see this as OK behavior. IMO we have more than a few people like this in the DMV.

Claiming to be disabled for airline benefits is a lot like claiming to be financially disadvantaged for private school financial aid.

[Anonymous]

The airlines are complicit in the priority seating scam because they allow. Of course, they are fenced in on what they can do because of regulations, threats of lawsuits and a press that is unlikely to take their side.

The schools, however, acre the deciders on to whom the distribute FA. They can chortle not believe what’s on the FA application or even disregard it.

What they shouldn’t want to happen is people losing faith in the “fairness” of what they are doing. FA grants to people that the jury of parents feel are not worthy or who don’t really need it is a problem.

They’ve already got a problem with many misunderstanding why FA exists and what it’s supposed to accomplish. If a large numbers of people believe that the only legitimate recipients of FA are poor kids, then the school is starting in the hole.

[Anonymous]

“Choose”not “chortle”.

[Anonymous]

If they make poor kids ineligible and give absorbent amounts of money to rich families then we will have an education system that mirrors the system of government that allows socialist style policies to the rich only. It harkens back to our humble roots of bailing out banks and billionaires because everyone knows socialism for richers only makes our country healthier more prosperous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The HHI limit for FA is quite simply whatever the school wants it to be.

This isn't some Government program with a bunch of rigid guidelines. No one is overseeing the distribution of the funds to ensure that things are "fair".

They consider the applications and then distribute the money and "relative need" is just part of what they consider.

As a result, you have situations where families with high incomes get FA and those with lower ones do not. And they certainly get more than the families that don't apply.

Schools aren't immune to pleas from high earners based on special circumstances. Especially if they have some available money left in the FA budget.

Then there is the matter of "ethics". Today's WSJ has an article describing how large numbers are claiming they are disabled so they can get priority boarding and seating. They board the plane in wheelchairs and at the destination they walk off apparently being miraculously cured during the flight.

Many of us would never consider doing something like this. But there are many who see this as OK behavior. IMO we have more than a few people like this in the DMV.

The majority of disabled people who use a wheelchair in daily life can also walk a little. They use a chair when they're feeling poorly or have to walk a long distance or need to save energy.
Being able to walk a little doesn't mean they don't truly need a wheelchair. But these people face continued harassment from busybodies who think you should only use a wheelchair or services (or handicap parking) if you are entirely wheelchair bound. Those busybodies are the same as the people claiming you should only get FA if you are destitute.