Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charlie wasn’t a public official.

Charlie wasn’t a candidate for public office.

Charlie wasn’t a corporate executive, supposedly personally “responsible” for any negative effects of corporate policies.

Charlie wasn’t a foreign diplomat or staff to whom blame for that foreign nation’s policies could be ascribed.

No, Charlie was an advocate for his faith and his political beliefs, as well as for open and cordial debate about both. This was a political assassination at its most basic core - not because someone was angry about a policy that Charlie had enacted, or that he was currently facilitating, or that he might in the future implement - but rather for no other reason than the public expression of his ideas. He was shot because of his discussions about his beliefs and for no other reason; and that should be a wake up call for all of us, right and left.

This will not end well.

He had a large influence on a lot of people, and was said to give advice to Trump. Anyone with that kind of influence can be a target.

+1.

Charlie Kirk founded Turning Point USA. Trump, along with many other conservative politicians and commentators, had credited him for securing the young vote in 2024. He was very influential in that space. His company was 100 million dollar a year. This was a targeted attack on free speech and him being a conservative.

lol no Turning point USA attacks free speech and the constitution. Pleas stop with your gaslighting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Genuine question: Anyone kind of ready to move on from Charlie Kirk? I am, and I'm a bit surprised by how I feel.

I was shocked by it yesterday, but I'm already sort of losing interest in it (even though I realize the irony of still posting about it).

I've gotten pretty desensitized to violence, thanks to the country's lack of gun control laws.

It’s just different. The students shot in school just minutes after him, they were innocent. The Annunciation victims, totally innocent and unaware of the dangers of going to private mass at school.
This guy? A bad decision made as an immature teen and no strength to reverse that decision- he’s not innocent.
So, yeah, I’m over it.
But… it’s a little weird that trump is acting like this is Jesus (when he probably didn’t remember his name an hour before) and maga acting like this is a call to start a civil war??
Very suss

[Anonymous]

i'm no fan of Omar, but I don't hear any mocking in that video. She didn't say a single thing that wasn't true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Genuine question: Anyone kind of ready to move on from Charlie Kirk? I am, and I'm a bit surprised by how I feel.

I was shocked by it yesterday, but I'm already sort of losing interest in it (even though I realize the irony of still posting about it).

I've gotten pretty desensitized to violence, thanks to the country's lack of gun control laws.

Yes so I’m hoping the shooter gets caught soon. This will be all over the news until he is arrested.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are not allowed to criticize Kirk here. The reality is that he was a divisive figure but anything close to pointing that out gets deleted.

For a very long time we have had a "48 hour" rule that prohibits negative posts about a person for the first 48 hours after their death. Tomorrow you can bash Kirk to your heart's content. Today you have to be polite.

How kind of you. Very on point for democrats.😳🙄

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is Charlie Kirk's body being flown on Air Force II with a Vice Presidential escort? That's taxpayer money. The more over the top this becomes the more I think Trump had him eliminated. It's a distraction from the Epstein files and I think Kirk called for the release of the files.

Your tin foil hat has restricted blood flow to your brain.

NP do you think it's right or normal that a private citizen is being flown around on a government plane?

The government and the GOP intend to make a martyr out of Charlie Kirk. There's almost a religious fervor about this. I really, really hope the assassin isn't some radical progressive. Because that is exactly the narrative that the government and MAGA want. Us vs Them is the core of every authoritarian movement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is Charlie Kirk's body being flown on Air Force II with a Vice Presidential escort? That's taxpayer money. The more over the top this becomes the more I think Trump had him eliminated. It's a distraction from the Epstein files and I think Kirk called for the release of the files.

I’m afraid they’re going to put him in the Capitol rotunda at this point.

They are. All the democrats will be force to walk by his casket, bow and say a Christian prayer. There will also be trans softball players and Antifa commandos in chains hold up Trump’s birthday art work to Epstein.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Genuine question: Anyone kind of ready to move on from Charlie Kirk? I am, and I'm a bit surprised by how I feel.

I was shocked by it yesterday, but I'm already sort of losing interest in it (even though I realize the irony of still posting about it).

I've gotten pretty desensitized to violence, thanks to the country's lack of gun control laws.

It’s just different. The students shot in school just minutes after him, they were innocent. The Annunciation victims, totally innocent and unaware of the dangers of going to private mass at school.
This guy? A bad decision made as an immature teen and no strength to reverse that decision- he’s not innocent.
So, yeah, I’m over it.
But… it’s a little weird that trump is acting like this is Jesus (when he probably didn’t remember his name an hour before) and maga acting like this is a call to start a civil war??
Very suss

It's people like you and these opinions I bolded that perpetuate his status as a martyr.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Genuine question: Anyone kind of ready to move on from Charlie Kirk? I am, and I'm a bit surprised by how I feel.

I was shocked by it yesterday, but I'm already sort of losing interest in it (even though I realize the irony of still posting about it).

I've gotten pretty desensitized to violence, thanks to the country's lack of gun control laws.

It’s just different. The students shot in school just minutes after him, they were innocent. The Annunciation victims, totally innocent and unaware of the dangers of going to private mass at school.
This guy? A bad decision made as an immature teen and no strength to reverse that decision- he’s not innocent.
So, yeah, I’m over it.
But… it’s a little weird that trump is acting like this is Jesus (when he probably didn’t remember his name an hour before) and maga acting like this is a call to start a civil war??
Very suss

Charlie Kirk and Trump were close. Charlie Kirk was widely known in the conservative sphere. Many are saddened by his death.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is Charlie Kirk's body being flown on Air Force II with a Vice Presidential escort? That's taxpayer money. The more over the top this becomes the more I think Trump had him eliminated. It's a distraction from the Epstein files and I think Kirk called for the release of the files.

Your tin foil hat has restricted blood flow to your brain.

NP do you think it's right or normal that a private citizen is being flown around on a government plane?

The government and the GOP intend to make a martyr out of Charlie Kirk. There's almost a religious fervor about this. I really, really hope the assassin isn't some radical progressive. Because that is exactly the narrative that the government and MAGA want. Us vs Them is the core of every authoritarian movement.

It's going to be some qanon nut job and honestly I don't trust them to tell the truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is Charlie Kirk's body being flown on Air Force II with a Vice Presidential escort? That's taxpayer money. The more over the top this becomes the more I think Trump had him eliminated. It's a distraction from the Epstein files and I think Kirk called for the release of the files.

Your tin foil hat has restricted blood flow to your brain.

NP do you think it's right or normal that a private citizen is being flown around on a government plane?

The government and the GOP intend to make a martyr out of Charlie Kirk. There's almost a religious fervor about this. I really, really hope the assassin isn't some radical progressive. Because that is exactly the narrative that the government and MAGA want. Us vs Them is the core of every authoritarian movement.

Please name a radical progressive! Some how you think a person who is working for universal per-k and voting rights is going to track down and kill an unknown maga crazy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is Charlie Kirk's body being flown on Air Force II with a Vice Presidential escort? That's taxpayer money. The more over the top this becomes the more I think Trump had him eliminated. It's a distraction from the Epstein files and I think Kirk called for the release of the files.

Your tin foil hat has restricted blood flow to your brain.

NP do you think it's right or normal that a private citizen is being flown around on a government plane?

The government and the GOP intend to make a martyr out of Charlie Kirk. There's almost a religious fervor about this. I really, really hope the assassin isn't some radical progressive. Because that is exactly the narrative that the government and MAGA want. Us vs Them is the core of every authoritarian movement.

The religious people I went to college with believe that he was murdered for spreading Christianity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is Charlie Kirk's body being flown on Air Force II with a Vice Presidential escort? That's taxpayer money. The more over the top this becomes the more I think Trump had him eliminated. It's a distraction from the Epstein files and I think Kirk called for the release of the files.

Your tin foil hat has restricted blood flow to your brain.

NP do you think it's right or normal that a private citizen is being flown around on a government plane?

The government and the GOP intend to make a martyr out of Charlie Kirk. There's almost a religious fervor about this. I really, really hope the assassin isn't some radical progressive. Because that is exactly the narrative that the government and MAGA want. Us vs Them is the core of every authoritarian movement.

The religious people I went to college with believe that he was murdered for spreading Christianity.

Very well be the truth. He was attacked constantly because of his Christian faith. He had already been physically assaulted on multiple occasions for his views.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is Charlie Kirk's body being flown on Air Force II with a Vice Presidential escort? That's taxpayer money. The more over the top this becomes the more I think Trump had him eliminated. It's a distraction from the Epstein files and I think Kirk called for the release of the files.

Your tin foil hat has restricted blood flow to your brain.

NP do you think it's right or normal that a private citizen is being flown around on a government plane?

The government and the GOP intend to make a martyr out of Charlie Kirk. There's almost a religious fervor about this. I really, really hope the assassin isn't some radical progressive. Because that is exactly the narrative that the government and MAGA want. Us vs Them is the core of every authoritarian movement.

Please name a radical progressive! Some how you think a person who is working for universal per-k and voting rights is going to track down and kill an unknown maga crazy?

The unknown maga crazy point is a good one - until yesterday, I didn’t really know the difference between Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charlie wasn’t a public official.

Charlie wasn’t a candidate for public office.

Charlie wasn’t a corporate executive, supposedly personally “responsible” for any negative effects of corporate policies.

Charlie wasn’t a foreign diplomat or staff to whom blame for that foreign nation’s policies could be ascribed.

No, Charlie was an advocate for his faith and his political beliefs, as well as for open and cordial debate about both. This was a political assassination at its most basic core - not because someone was angry about a policy that Charlie had enacted, or that he was currently facilitating, or that he might in the future implement - but rather for no other reason than the public expression of his ideas. He was shot because of his discussions about his beliefs and for no other reason; and that should be a wake up call for all of us, right and left.

This will not end well.

He had a large influence on a lot of people, and was said to give advice to Trump. Anyone with that kind of influence can be a target.

+1.

Charlie Kirk founded Turning Point USA. Trump, along with many other conservative politicians and commentators, had credited him for securing the young vote in 2024. He was very influential in that space. His company was 100 million dollar a year. This was a targeted attack on free speech and him being a conservative.

lol no Turning point USA attacks free speech and the constitution. Pleas stop with your gaslighting.

Disagreeing with your point of view is not attacking free speech. That is the exercise of free speech. Most free speech Supreme Court cases are focused on precisely the sort of speech lots of people find offensive. That's the whole point of free speech. You have the right to offend people with your words without the government penalizing you. Gunning someone down is another matter entirely.