Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

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Northern VA Republicans join opposition to Potomac Yard arena

" This is not the type of deal an ordinary retail establishment or restaurateur would get. Instead, it’s a deal reserved for the privileged and well-connected few. This goes against our vision for the future of the party and undermines our party’s values of fairness, transparency, and equal opportunity. We believe in policies that benefit all Virginians, not just the elite few. We cannot support a deal that undermines these core principles."

I'm not a Republican, but I applaud this message and agree with their words.

Watching this project crumble is hilarious. I know a lot of people are against it, but I think the labor union promises didn’t help, and of course making taxpayers fork over money too.

It's not just that a lot of people are against it. Aside form Ted and the politicians backing it, no one is for it. The local residents don't want it, state tax payers don't want to pay for it, fans don't want it.... I live in Alexandria and I have yet to hear anyone even on the fence about it; everyone is against it

Oh bullschitt. I’m a lifelong Alexandrian and at least half the people I know are for it, myself included. Do better. Surely you know that the loudest voices aren’t always representative of majority opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So how does Ted go back to Mayor Bowser at this point? He has burned so many bridges with the fans and the city. Maybe he will just sell the teams.

He won't go back to Bowser. He'll push this ahead and they'll make it happen in Virginia. I really hope to be proven wrong — I live in D.C. and don't want to see the teams move, and I think it's a bad deal for our neighbors across the river — but I think people who oppose it are being a little quick to declare victory.

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Northern VA Republicans join opposition to Potomac Yard arena

" This is not the type of deal an ordinary retail establishment or restaurateur would get. Instead, it’s a deal reserved for the privileged and well-connected few. This goes against our vision for the future of the party and undermines our party’s values of fairness, transparency, and equal opportunity. We believe in policies that benefit all Virginians, not just the elite few. We cannot support a deal that undermines these core principles."

I'm not a Republican, but I applaud this message and agree with their words.

Watching this project crumble is hilarious. I know a lot of people are against it, but I think the labor union promises didn’t help, and of course making taxpayers fork over money too.

It's not just that a lot of people are against it. Aside form Ted and the politicians backing it, no one is for it. The local residents don't want it, state tax payers don't want to pay for it, fans don't want it.... I live in Alexandria and I have yet to hear anyone even on the fence about it; everyone is against it

Oh bullschitt. I’m a lifelong Alexandrian and at least half the people I know are for it, myself included. Do better. Surely you know that the loudest voices aren’t always representative of majority opinion.

I've lived in Alexandria for 15 years, worked in it for 25. I don't know of one single person who's for it. Not one.

I would say you're the outlier.

But, we can put it to a referendum and see what the city residents really think.

[Anonymous]

We already voted when we elected Council in 2009 and they voted for the 2010 North Potomac Yard small area plan. We had a second chance to stop it in 2017, but a different Council voted to affirm that small area plan with 7.5 million square feet of development.

As the bike and ZFH lobbies like to remind us, elections have consequences.

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Anonymous wrote:So how does Ted go back to Mayor Bowser at this point? He has burned so many bridges with the fans and the city. Maybe he will just sell the teams.

He won't go back to Bowser. He'll push this ahead and they'll make it happen in Virginia. I really hope to be proven wrong — I live in D.C. and don't want to see the teams move, and I think it's a bad deal for our neighbors across the river — but I think people who oppose it are being a little quick to declare victory.

If they miss this legislative session, they won't be able to get the arena built before the CaptialOne lease expires. So I guess they play i Richmond or Baltimore for a year?

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.alxnow.com/2024/02/27/alexandria-republicans-join-opposition-to-potomac-yard-arena/

Northern VA Republicans join opposition to Potomac Yard arena

" This is not the type of deal an ordinary retail establishment or restaurateur would get. Instead, it’s a deal reserved for the privileged and well-connected few. This goes against our vision for the future of the party and undermines our party’s values of fairness, transparency, and equal opportunity. We believe in policies that benefit all Virginians, not just the elite few. We cannot support a deal that undermines these core principles."

I'm not a Republican, but I applaud this message and agree with their words.

Watching this project crumble is hilarious. I know a lot of people are against it, but I think the labor union promises didn’t help, and of course making taxpayers fork over money too.

It's not just that a lot of people are against it. Aside form Ted and the politicians backing it, no one is for it. The local residents don't want it, state tax payers don't want to pay for it, fans don't want it.... I live in Alexandria and I have yet to hear anyone even on the fence about it; everyone is against it

Oh bullschitt. I’m a lifelong Alexandrian and at least half the people I know are for it, myself included. Do better. Surely you know that the loudest voices aren’t always representative of majority opinion.

I've lived in Alexandria for 15 years, worked in it for 25. I don't know of one single person who's for it. Not one.

I would say you're the outlier.

But, we can put it to a referendum and see what the city residents really think.

You mean like Brexit?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We already voted when we elected Council in 2009 and they voted for the 2010 North Potomac Yard small area plan. We had a second chance to stop it in 2017, but a different Council voted to affirm that small area plan with 7.5 million square feet of development.

As the bike and ZFH lobbies like to remind us, elections have consequences.

Planning and developing the area is one thing. Adding a massive sports arena is another.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.alxnow.com/2024/02/27/alexandria-republicans-join-opposition-to-potomac-yard-arena/

Northern VA Republicans join opposition to Potomac Yard arena

" This is not the type of deal an ordinary retail establishment or restaurateur would get. Instead, it’s a deal reserved for the privileged and well-connected few. This goes against our vision for the future of the party and undermines our party’s values of fairness, transparency, and equal opportunity. We believe in policies that benefit all Virginians, not just the elite few. We cannot support a deal that undermines these core principles."

I'm not a Republican, but I applaud this message and agree with their words.

Watching this project crumble is hilarious. I know a lot of people are against it, but I think the labor union promises didn’t help, and of course making taxpayers fork over money too.

It's not just that a lot of people are against it. Aside form Ted and the politicians backing it, no one is for it. The local residents don't want it, state tax payers don't want to pay for it, fans don't want it.... I live in Alexandria and I have yet to hear anyone even on the fence about it; everyone is against it

Oh bullschitt. I’m a lifelong Alexandrian and at least half the people I know are for it, myself included. Do better. Surely you know that the loudest voices aren’t always representative of majority opinion.

I've lived in Alexandria for 15 years, worked in it for 25. I don't know of one single person who's for it. Not one.

I would say you're the outlier.

But, we can put it to a referendum and see what the city residents really think.

DP, I've also lived in Alexandria for 15 years, and I'm for it too. Lots of people I know are for it too. But, the people opposed are pretty vocal, and mildly intimidating in their opposition, so when I encounter that I just say nothing. No need to fight with a neighbor about a stadium on behalf of a billionaire.

That said, I agree with a referendum. Nobody on council nor the mayor ran on this issue, so it's not like they have an implied mandate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.alxnow.com/2024/02/27/alexandria-republicans-join-opposition-to-potomac-yard-arena/

Northern VA Republicans join opposition to Potomac Yard arena

" This is not the type of deal an ordinary retail establishment or restaurateur would get. Instead, it’s a deal reserved for the privileged and well-connected few. This goes against our vision for the future of the party and undermines our party’s values of fairness, transparency, and equal opportunity. We believe in policies that benefit all Virginians, not just the elite few. We cannot support a deal that undermines these core principles."

I'm not a Republican, but I applaud this message and agree with their words.

Watching this project crumble is hilarious. I know a lot of people are against it, but I think the labor union promises didn’t help, and of course making taxpayers fork over money too.

It's not just that a lot of people are against it. Aside form Ted and the politicians backing it, no one is for it. The local residents don't want it, state tax payers don't want to pay for it, fans don't want it.... I live in Alexandria and I have yet to hear anyone even on the fence about it; everyone is against it

Oh bullschitt. I’m a lifelong Alexandrian and at least half the people I know are for it, myself included. Do better. Surely you know that the loudest voices aren’t always representative of majority opinion.

I've lived in Alexandria for 15 years, worked in it for 25. I don't know of one single person who's for it. Not one.

I would say you're the outlier.

But, we can put it to a referendum and see what the city residents really think.

DP, I've also lived in Alexandria for 15 years, and I'm for it too. Lots of people I know are for it too. But, the people opposed are pretty vocal, and mildly intimidating in their opposition, so when I encounter that I just say nothing. No need to fight with a neighbor about a stadium on behalf of a billionaire.

That said, I agree with a referendum. Nobody on council nor the mayor ran on this issue, so it's not like they have an implied mandate.

Another Alexandria resident here (23 years). Support for the arena runs about 75/25 in my city-based neighborhood and professional networks. As the above poster correctly said, opponents are far more strident and vocal and, when combined with some bitter fans based in MD, distort reality.

I'm fine with a referendum. I also think this gets done. There's a lot of noise about the bills being dead in Richmond, but the sausage-making process isn't finished.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.alxnow.com/2024/02/27/alexandria-republicans-join-opposition-to-potomac-yard-arena/

Northern VA Republicans join opposition to Potomac Yard arena

" This is not the type of deal an ordinary retail establishment or restaurateur would get. Instead, it’s a deal reserved for the privileged and well-connected few. This goes against our vision for the future of the party and undermines our party’s values of fairness, transparency, and equal opportunity. We believe in policies that benefit all Virginians, not just the elite few. We cannot support a deal that undermines these core principles."

I'm not a Republican, but I applaud this message and agree with their words.

Watching this project crumble is hilarious. I know a lot of people are against it, but I think the labor union promises didn’t help, and of course making taxpayers fork over money too.

It's not just that a lot of people are against it. Aside form Ted and the politicians backing it, no one is for it. The local residents don't want it, state tax payers don't want to pay for it, fans don't want it.... I live in Alexandria and I have yet to hear anyone even on the fence about it; everyone is against it

Oh bullschitt. I’m a lifelong Alexandrian and at least half the people I know are for it, myself included. Do better. Surely you know that the loudest voices aren’t always representative of majority opinion.

I've lived in Alexandria for 15 years, worked in it for 25. I don't know of one single person who's for it. Not one.

I would say you're the outlier.

But, we can put it to a referendum and see what the city residents really think.

DP, I've also lived in Alexandria for 15 years, and I'm for it too. Lots of people I know are for it too. But, the people opposed are pretty vocal, and mildly intimidating in their opposition, so when I encounter that I just say nothing. No need to fight with a neighbor about a stadium on behalf of a billionaire.

That said, I agree with a referendum. Nobody on council nor the mayor ran on this issue, so it's not like they have an implied mandate.

I cold see this- even if you are for it, it is certainly annoying to be giving tax breaks to billionaires so hard to defend if someone starts complaining about that aspect of it.

[Anonymous]

Great. So DC will lose the stadium because it sucks for business and the crime is rising. But at the end of the day, DC will still be stuck with this super woke city council and political system that won’t actually tackle crime with any seriousness, so the exodus of businesses will just increase. Instead DC will increase taxes and expend tax money on “wrap around services” and “violence interruptors” because it’s too cowed by social justice activism to actually arrest and prosecute. Then, 10 years down the road, once we return to how shtty DC was in 1991, the city will ultimately elect another Fenty type who is like super pro developer and pro business and maybe we can rebuild. Ugh, I am so tired of progressivism in so many ways. I am liberal, but I hate how weak everyone is on crime. I’m sorry, but arrest some folks and lock em up! It’s not that hard!

[Anonymous]

I’m in Rosemont. The only person I know for the arena is a neighbor who’s always in lock step with whatever Wilson says and will publicly shame anyone who criticizes him or ACPS (despite sending their 2 kids to private high schools). They have a pro arena sign in their yard (because a yard sign is guaranteed to change people’s minds) and won’t shut up about it.

The hypocrisy with going to bed with Youngkin and a billionaire, plus allowing billions of tax incentives for a billionaire is comical. Ive lived in Alexandria for 30 years and have seen some crazy stuff but this one takes the cake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Great. So DC will lose the stadium because it sucks for business and the crime is rising. But at the end of the day, DC will still be stuck with this super woke city council and political system that won’t actually tackle crime with any seriousness, so the exodus of businesses will just increase. Instead DC will increase taxes and expend tax money on “wrap around services” and “violence interruptors” because it’s too cowed by social justice activism to actually arrest and prosecute. Then, 10 years down the road, once we return to how shtty DC was in 1991, the city will ultimately elect another Fenty type who is like super pro developer and pro business and maybe we can rebuild. Ugh, I am so tired of progressivism in so many ways. I am liberal, but I hate how weak everyone is on crime. I’m sorry, but arrest some folks and lock em up! It’s not that hard!

Ted has said, on the record, that the crime had nothing to do with it. Face it, if a jurisdiction threw $2B at you for free, you would take it, wouldn't you? That is what Ted is doing. DC doesn't have the land or money to compete with what Virginia is offering, so it is what it is.

Why Virginia taxpayers would be on the hook for it is beyond me, but it isn't my money, so...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.alxnow.com/2024/02/27/alexandria-republicans-join-opposition-to-potomac-yard-arena/

Northern VA Republicans join opposition to Potomac Yard arena

" This is not the type of deal an ordinary retail establishment or restaurateur would get. Instead, it’s a deal reserved for the privileged and well-connected few. This goes against our vision for the future of the party and undermines our party’s values of fairness, transparency, and equal opportunity. We believe in policies that benefit all Virginians, not just the elite few. We cannot support a deal that undermines these core principles."

I'm not a Republican, but I applaud this message and agree with their words.

Watching this project crumble is hilarious. I know a lot of people are against it, but I think the labor union promises didn’t help, and of course making taxpayers fork over money too.

It's not just that a lot of people are against it. Aside form Ted and the politicians backing it, no one is for it. The local residents don't want it, state tax payers don't want to pay for it, fans don't want it.... I live in Alexandria and I have yet to hear anyone even on the fence about it; everyone is against it

Oh bullschitt. I’m a lifelong Alexandrian and at least half the people I know are for it, myself included. Do better. Surely you know that the loudest voices aren’t always representative of majority opinion.

I've lived in Alexandria for 15 years, worked in it for 25. I don't know of one single person who's for it. Not one.

I would say you're the outlier.

But, we can put it to a referendum and see what the city residents really think.

+1

Born at Alexandria Hospital in '72, graduated TC in '90. I spent 4 years at college and then 6 years on the west coast, but have lived here for all the other time. My family is here. I literally know one dude in support of this and he is a Caps fan and an alcoholic. So, to him, it means an Uber savings, that is it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m in Rosemont. The only person I know for the arena is a neighbor who’s always in lock step with whatever Wilson says and will publicly shame anyone who criticizes him or ACPS (despite sending their 2 kids to private high schools). They have a pro arena sign in their yard (because a yard sign is guaranteed to change people’s minds) and won’t shut up about it.

The hypocrisy with going to bed with Youngkin and a billionaire, plus allowing billions of tax incentives for a billionaire is comical. Ive lived in Alexandria for 30 years and have seen some crazy stuff but this one takes the cake.

God Bless the hypocritical, virtue-signaling-rich-white housewives of Rosemont. Where would Alexandria be without them?