Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who are the Nazis in Ukraine?

We could start with the people who tried to assassinate the Chief Rabbi of Ukraine while he was trying to help evacuated flooded families.

Hint: It's the Russians. And, what kind of sick bastards would fire at civilians trying to evacuate from a flood?

There are multiple reports now that russians shooting people who are trying to escape flood zones. They placed blockposts and people have only choice to die by drawing or to be shot.

[Anonymous]

It is time to change the subject of this thread to Russian victory over Ukraine is inevitable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is time to change the subject of this thread to Russian victory over Ukraine is inevitable.

Well it would make the republicans happy and continue a theme -fake laptops, fake whistleblowers, stolen election, etc. I bet Fox is already on it.

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Anonymous wrote:We are getting killed economically by this way in Europe.

Your 100 billion in arms is a drop on the bucket compared with costs born by western and Central Europeans.

If Zelensky cannot blow this open with his promised offensive, it’s time to shut this war down.

Don’t forget the costs to Ukrainians and even- gasp- the children and the elderly in Russia (I know everyone there is supposed to be suffering indiscriminately but still).

It's ironic that Russia invades a neighboring, formerly trusted and allied, country without cause; and seeks sympathy for that?

Pull out of Ukraine. Boom. War stops.

Did a grandma or a child begin the war? Can they stop it?
You have to admit that there are people who suffer through no fault of their own.
Do you wish death upon the young kids of dictators or nazis? I don’t, they are kids and didn’t choose their parents.
I am not surprised if someone traumatized by the war directly hates the whole nation of invaders. But I see most hatred, the indiscriminate kind, from the keyboard warriors

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Anonymous wrote:I read there were wargames with America where Ukraine blew up the dam to stop the Soviets.

People on here were talking about an inevitable Ukraine counteroffensive that would push Russia back. If this counteroffensive failed, then blowing the dam would stop Russia from going further after beating the counteroffensive.

History shows the retreating side blows the dam.

That would be Russia. They're spent, have made no significant progress in 8 months, whereas the Ukrainians are replenished and ready to go on the offensive.

Remember when the US fought a twenty year war in Afghanistan and in the end nothing changed.

So far, this Ukraine war is almost ten years on... why not another ten?

The reason nothing changed in Afghanistan was because the us wasn’t willing to do what the Chinese do in xinjiang.

It wasn’t a capability issue but an issue of will/resolve and self imposed guardrails

Ukraine will grind on for a decade more because neither side has the capability.

In other words, the US will make sure Ukraine goes back to the stone age.

Great job Biden lads.

The US is not running this war or Ukraine.

The US is not running the war, just providing the money, equipment, logistical support, intelligence, satellites, rules of engagement and strategy. The war is over in two weeks if the US bows out.

In that scenario, millions of Ukrainians are killed under Russia goal of genocide.

Why is this a good thing, comrade?

Russia has never said it wanted to exterminate Ukrainians, and their actions within occupied territories are not consistent with genocidal intent. But I understand you need to believe that.

I am sure that Russia would prefer that Ukrainians simply accept their subservient status as part of the Russian empire. But given that Ukraine is not going to surrender, Russia believes that it has no choice but to commit genocide.

https://www.justsecurity.org/81789/russias-eliminationist-rhetoric-against-ukraine-a-collection/

Rhetoric means nothing. I mean the US says it's all about democracy and human rights, but their international posture and choice of friends speaks otherwise, don't you think?

Look at actions, not words.

The Russian Government and military are guilty of War Crimes, chooses North Korea, Iraq and other dictatorships as "friends", so what does that make Russia? Besides, according to Shoigu, Russia is doing just fine.

"The attempts at an offensive were thwarted, the enemy was stopped," he added. "The enemy did not achieve its goals but suffered significant and incomparable losses."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russias-shoigu-ukraines-counter-offensive-155226283.html

If Shoigu is right, then you shouldn't need to post anymore! Actions are what matter. Go do something else. Go back to work! Have fun! Drink some Vodka and toast Russia's victory!

I think you use too few exclamation points. Use more! That'll make you sound more passionate.

So you're saying it's bad to count dictatorships amongst friends? Very well. I'm going to tune into the DOS briefing to hear them say they are severing relations with KSA, Kuwait, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain. Khalas. No more trade, no more weapons trading, no more oil, no more nothing. They are dictators and dictators cannot be our friends.

Cue "well THAT"s different."

Meh, we criticize those regimes all the time for human rights stuff. That's not a reason to accept russian barbarity. Or maybe we're just racist? Isn't that what you usually say? That it's ok for brown people to be authoritarian but not white. The Dagestanis need to be ruled with an iron fist otherwise they'll just rape and murder each other.

But as much as this is a lovely distraction let's not lose sight of what we're talking about. russia invaded Ukraine in a war of imperial conquest with express goal of erasing Ukraine and Ukrainian identity from history. russia has committed mass war crimes and crimes against humanity as part of this effort. russia has also committed hilarious acts of corruption and incompetency that have made it the laughingstock of the world. Nevertheless despite the odds being greatly against them Ukraine has perservered, still stands, and is making gains as we speak. Meanwhile russia is in disarray, panicking, and destroying its own future for nothing.

Your non capitalized spelling of a country name kinda gives you away…

As what? Someone who has no respect for russia or the people that enable it? I'll gladly admit to that. putin's russia is nothing but Mobutu's Zaire.

No, as someone whose reasoning and thinking isn’t of high quality.
I never said we must all love Russia or have respect for it, or for “people that enable it” whoever they are.
But names of countries are capitalized, even of the most hated by you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Russia is no longer relevant; other than a terrorist state with submarines.

Russia is just another Iran.

Actually - I see a small glimmer of hope for the future of Iran because their population is so young. Once they get their act together they may be able to change their future.

Russians literally have no future or any hope as a society going forward.

I think in 20 years Iran may be in a better spot; Russia most likely will not exist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Russia is no longer relevant; other than a terrorist state with submarines.

Russia is just another Iran.

Actually - I see a small glimmer of hope for the future of Iran because their population is so young. Once they get their act together they may be able to change their future.

Russians literally have no future or any hope as a society going forward.

I think in 20 years Iran may be in a better spot; Russia most likely will not exist.

I have relatives in Russia. Honestly I think it’s not bad if they are under some sort of “British mandate” in say a decade. As long as the mandate is by a civilized, “first world” country - it can’t be worse than what they have now.

[Anonymous]

Russia is going to be more like Haiti in 10 years; just with a higher crime rate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Russia is no longer relevant; other than a terrorist state with submarines.

Russia is just another Iran.

Russia’s other main allies are:

- Venezuela, and
- Iran.

It is fair to judge a nation by the company they keep.

And let’s not forget: Putin is an indicted war-criminal.

Indicted by a court that America forbids others to cooperate with? That's rich. Justice for thee but not for me.

[Anonymous]

I imagine more level heads at NATO are starting to sweat. The aura of NATO invincibility is eroding on a daily basis. Their equipment doesn't seem to perform any better than Russian equivalents despite being far more expensive. Cheap drones, mines and artillery are ruling this battlefield.

Also, either training or intelligence is quite lacking.

The suitcases of cash are about the only thing not being discredited on the battlefield now, so that might be what ultimately keeps things together.

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Anonymous wrote:I read there were wargames with America where Ukraine blew up the dam to stop the Soviets.

People on here were talking about an inevitable Ukraine counteroffensive that would push Russia back. If this counteroffensive failed, then blowing the dam would stop Russia from going further after beating the counteroffensive.

History shows the retreating side blows the dam.

That would be Russia. They're spent, have made no significant progress in 8 months, whereas the Ukrainians are replenished and ready to go on the offensive.

Remember when the US fought a twenty year war in Afghanistan and in the end nothing changed.

So far, this Ukraine war is almost ten years on... why not another ten?

The reason nothing changed in Afghanistan was because the us wasn’t willing to do what the Chinese do in xinjiang.

It wasn’t a capability issue but an issue of will/resolve and self imposed guardrails

Ukraine will grind on for a decade more because neither side has the capability.

In other words, the US will make sure Ukraine goes back to the stone age.

Great job Biden lads.

The US is not running this war or Ukraine.

The US is not running the war, just providing the money, equipment, logistical support, intelligence, satellites, rules of engagement and strategy. The war is over in two weeks if the US bows out.

In that scenario, millions of Ukrainians are killed under Russia goal of genocide.

Why is this a good thing, comrade?

Russia has never said it wanted to exterminate Ukrainians, and their actions within occupied territories are not consistent with genocidal intent. But I understand you need to believe that.

I am sure that Russia would prefer that Ukrainians simply accept their subservient status as part of the Russian empire. But given that Ukraine is not going to surrender, Russia believes that it has no choice but to commit genocide.

https://www.justsecurity.org/81789/russias-eliminationist-rhetoric-against-ukraine-a-collection/

Rhetoric means nothing. I mean the US says it's all about democracy and human rights, but their international posture and choice of friends speaks otherwise, don't you think?

Look at actions, not words.

The Russian Government and military are guilty of War Crimes, chooses North Korea, Iraq and other dictatorships as "friends", so what does that make Russia? Besides, according to Shoigu, Russia is doing just fine.

"The attempts at an offensive were thwarted, the enemy was stopped," he added. "The enemy did not achieve its goals but suffered significant and incomparable losses."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russias-shoigu-ukraines-counter-offensive-155226283.html

If Shoigu is right, then you shouldn't need to post anymore! Actions are what matter. Go do something else. Go back to work! Have fun! Drink some Vodka and toast Russia's victory!

I think you use too few exclamation points. Use more! That'll make you sound more passionate.

So you're saying it's bad to count dictatorships amongst friends? Very well. I'm going to tune into the DOS briefing to hear them say they are severing relations with KSA, Kuwait, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain. Khalas. No more trade, no more weapons trading, no more oil, no more nothing. They are dictators and dictators cannot be our friends.

Cue "well THAT"s different."

Meh, we criticize those regimes all the time for human rights stuff. That's not a reason to accept russian barbarity. Or maybe we're just racist? Isn't that what you usually say? That it's ok for brown people to be authoritarian but not white. The Dagestanis need to be ruled with an iron fist otherwise they'll just rape and murder each other.

But as much as this is a lovely distraction let's not lose sight of what we're talking about. russia invaded Ukraine in a war of imperial conquest with express goal of erasing Ukraine and Ukrainian identity from history. russia has committed mass war crimes and crimes against humanity as part of this effort. russia has also committed hilarious acts of corruption and incompetency that have made it the laughingstock of the world. Nevertheless despite the odds being greatly against them Ukraine has perservered, still stands, and is making gains as we speak. Meanwhile russia is in disarray, panicking, and destroying its own future for nothing.

Your non capitalized spelling of a country name kinda gives you away…

As what? Someone who has no respect for russia or the people that enable it? I'll gladly admit to that. putin's russia is nothing but Mobutu's Zaire.

No, as someone whose reasoning and thinking isn’t of high quality.
I never said we must all love Russia or have respect for it, or for “people that enable it” whoever they are.
But names of countries are capitalized, even of the most hated by you.

Silly russian don't get so upset. It's meaningless, like every single word out of putin and Lavrov's mouth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Russia is going to be more like Haiti in 10 years; just with a higher crime rate.

I mean, bad guys and all but they are smarter than Haitians in charge

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Anonymous wrote:I read there were wargames with America where Ukraine blew up the dam to stop the Soviets.

People on here were talking about an inevitable Ukraine counteroffensive that would push Russia back. If this counteroffensive failed, then blowing the dam would stop Russia from going further after beating the counteroffensive.

History shows the retreating side blows the dam.

That would be Russia. They're spent, have made no significant progress in 8 months, whereas the Ukrainians are replenished and ready to go on the offensive.

Remember when the US fought a twenty year war in Afghanistan and in the end nothing changed.

So far, this Ukraine war is almost ten years on... why not another ten?

The reason nothing changed in Afghanistan was because the us wasn’t willing to do what the Chinese do in xinjiang.

It wasn’t a capability issue but an issue of will/resolve and self imposed guardrails

Ukraine will grind on for a decade more because neither side has the capability.

In other words, the US will make sure Ukraine goes back to the stone age.

Great job Biden lads.

The US is not running this war or Ukraine.

The US is not running the war, just providing the money, equipment, logistical support, intelligence, satellites, rules of engagement and strategy. The war is over in two weeks if the US bows out.

In that scenario, millions of Ukrainians are killed under Russia goal of genocide.

Why is this a good thing, comrade?

Russia has never said it wanted to exterminate Ukrainians, and their actions within occupied territories are not consistent with genocidal intent. But I understand you need to believe that.

I am sure that Russia would prefer that Ukrainians simply accept their subservient status as part of the Russian empire. But given that Ukraine is not going to surrender, Russia believes that it has no choice but to commit genocide.

https://www.justsecurity.org/81789/russias-eliminationist-rhetoric-against-ukraine-a-collection/

Rhetoric means nothing. I mean the US says it's all about democracy and human rights, but their international posture and choice of friends speaks otherwise, don't you think?

Look at actions, not words.

The Russian Government and military are guilty of War Crimes, chooses North Korea, Iraq and other dictatorships as "friends", so what does that make Russia? Besides, according to Shoigu, Russia is doing just fine.

"The attempts at an offensive were thwarted, the enemy was stopped," he added. "The enemy did not achieve its goals but suffered significant and incomparable losses."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russias-shoigu-ukraines-counter-offensive-155226283.html

If Shoigu is right, then you shouldn't need to post anymore! Actions are what matter. Go do something else. Go back to work! Have fun! Drink some Vodka and toast Russia's victory!

I think you use too few exclamation points. Use more! That'll make you sound more passionate.

So you're saying it's bad to count dictatorships amongst friends? Very well. I'm going to tune into the DOS briefing to hear them say they are severing relations with KSA, Kuwait, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain. Khalas. No more trade, no more weapons trading, no more oil, no more nothing. They are dictators and dictators cannot be our friends.

Cue "well THAT"s different."

Meh, we criticize those regimes all the time for human rights stuff. That's not a reason to accept russian barbarity. Or maybe we're just racist? Isn't that what you usually say? That it's ok for brown people to be authoritarian but not white. The Dagestanis need to be ruled with an iron fist otherwise they'll just rape and murder each other.

But as much as this is a lovely distraction let's not lose sight of what we're talking about. russia invaded Ukraine in a war of imperial conquest with express goal of erasing Ukraine and Ukrainian identity from history. russia has committed mass war crimes and crimes against humanity as part of this effort. russia has also committed hilarious acts of corruption and incompetency that have made it the laughingstock of the world. Nevertheless despite the odds being greatly against them Ukraine has perservered, still stands, and is making gains as we speak. Meanwhile russia is in disarray, panicking, and destroying its own future for nothing.

Your non capitalized spelling of a country name kinda gives you away…

As what? Someone who has no respect for russia or the people that enable it? I'll gladly admit to that. putin's russia is nothing but Mobutu's Zaire.

No, as someone whose reasoning and thinking isn’t of high quality.
I never said we must all love Russia or have respect for it, or for “people that enable it” whoever they are.
But names of countries are capitalized, even of the most hated by you.

Silly russian don't get so upset. It's meaningless, like every single word out of putin and Lavrov's mouth.

And, I rest my case

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I imagine more level heads at NATO are starting to sweat. The aura of NATO invincibility is eroding on a daily basis. Their equipment doesn't seem to perform any better than Russian equivalents despite being far more expensive. Cheap drones, mines and artillery are ruling this battlefield.

Also, either training or intelligence is quite lacking.

The suitcases of cash are about the only thing not being discredited on the battlefield now, so that might be what ultimately keeps things together.

Troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I imagine more level heads at NATO are starting to sweat. The aura of NATO invincibility is eroding on a daily basis. Their equipment doesn't seem to perform any better than Russian equivalents despite being far more expensive. Cheap drones, mines and artillery are ruling this battlefield.

Also, either training or intelligence is quite lacking.

The suitcases of cash are about the only thing not being discredited on the battlefield now, so that might be what ultimately keeps things together.

Yes remember the “highway of death”?