Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates

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Anonymous wrote:My God, with the exception of the title of King, Harry has basically repeated history of his grandmother’s uncle. Fleeing to America with a divorcee and having to beg for an allowance. The hate and disdain for his fleeing just like it was back then. Ironically, the present Queen was the one to show a minimal bit of empathy for her Uncle that left to be an American playboy on the arm of his American actress who had carry nicknames for all the members of the Royal family. It’s uncanny. It’s like the followed the playbook.

Huge difference. The spares always are left to beg for money and places to live for themselves and their kids. Look at Charles siblings. Or how hard Andrew had to beg for a wedding for Beatrice. AND Charles has been very clear that he is planning to streamline the monarchy to direct heirs.

Harry is a much better person than his great uncle but honestly gave up much less for love.

Yes, I say good for Harry for leaving and making his own path. He has a beautiful wife, a beautiful son and lots of money. Let the haters hate.

Exactly. How many of these anti-H&M posters would want to turn forty still living at the financial mercy of a parent or older sibling? We tell our children everyday, forge your path and yet these posters are upset that a grown ass man finally did. So what if it took the help of a strong woman to give him the courage, at least he finally took the plunge.

Yes, that's very American. And if Harry wants to be American, good for him.

Meghan wants to be a duchess, though, which is the opposite of being American. When she was an American duchess in England, she was interesting. Now that she's an American duchess in America, she's interesting but not in a good way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My God, with the exception of the title of King, Harry has basically repeated history of his grandmother’s uncle. Fleeing to America with a divorcee and having to beg for an allowance. The hate and disdain for his fleeing just like it was back then. Ironically, the present Queen was the one to show a minimal bit of empathy for her Uncle that left to be an American playboy on the arm of his American actress who had carry nicknames for all the members of the Royal family. It’s uncanny. It’s like the followed the playbook.

Huge difference. The spares always are left to beg for money and places to live for themselves and their kids. Look at Charles siblings. Or how hard Andrew had to beg for a wedding for Beatrice. AND Charles has been very clear that he is planning to streamline the monarchy to direct heirs.

Harry is a much better person than his great uncle but honestly gave up much less for love.

Yes, I say good for Harry for leaving and making his own path. He has a beautiful wife, a beautiful son and lots of money. Let the haters hate.

+1 I wish they had stayed a part of the royal family, but I'm not them, and I don't like them any less for it. I'm frankly amazed by Meghan Markle. She rocketed to stardom, coming from a family that wanted to destroy her. She's amazing, for that reason alone. For those who point out that her father helped her get into a private school -- some parents want the best for their kids while they see them as extensions of themselves, but once they realize they are independent people in the world, then suddenly they don't want to be outdone by them. It's a phenomenon. She escaped it, despite all odds. Good for her.

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Anonymous wrote:My God, with the exception of the title of King, Harry has basically repeated history of his grandmother’s uncle. Fleeing to America with a divorcee and having to beg for an allowance. The hate and disdain for his fleeing just like it was back then. Ironically, the present Queen was the one to show a minimal bit of empathy for her Uncle that left to be an American playboy on the arm of his American actress who had carry nicknames for all the members of the Royal family. It’s uncanny. It’s like the followed the playbook.

Huge difference. The spares always are left to beg for money and places to live for themselves and their kids. Look at Charles siblings. Or how hard Andrew had to beg for a wedding for Beatrice. AND Charles has been very clear that he is planning to streamline the monarchy to direct heirs.

Harry is a much better person than his great uncle but honestly gave up much less for love.

Yes, I say good for Harry for leaving and making his own path. He has a beautiful wife, a beautiful son and lots of money. Let the haters hate.

Exactly. How many of these anti-H&M posters would want to turn forty still living at the financial mercy of a parent or older sibling? We tell our children everyday, forge your path and yet these posters are upset that a grown ass man finally did. So what if it took the help of a strong woman to give him the courage, at least he finally took the plunge.

I would never want to marry into the royal family. But she did, with eyes wide open and “ready to hit the ground running”. It’s unclear what happened, since she was gushing about the support the royal family was giving her and claiming they were the family she never had. They sent her on fancy tours and gave her all kinds of responsibilities (which is what she claims she wanted). Honestly in retrospect she should have heeded Michelle Obama’s advice, taken it slower, eased into the duties, or even taken a break before starting.

All of a sudden it was less about how she could serve the monarchy that she signed up for and more about her being a victim, of the mean press, mean will and Kate, mean dad and sister. She cried shamelessly about how hard her life was on a documentary that was supposed to be about their wildly successful Africa tour. When something actually awful happened to her - a miscarriage - she decides to squeeze out some public sympathy and write a saccharine op Ed about it in the NYT... it’s the me, me, me of it all that rubs people the wrong way. She seems to have no sense of her own incredible privilege.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for Harry, but I am sure we will be hearing of the divorce soon.

My own mother died young, and it definitely influenced my partner choices and relationships, and those of my brothers. Somehow that essential relationship being cut short in a sudden, traumatic way caused all of us to try to replay different aspects of how we related to our mother, revisiting things we regretted in our relationship with her as we forged new relationships; it took a long time before a therapist pointed this out to me. But I see Harry doing the same thing.

I think Meghan is quite good at presenting the 'woe is me' act, and this type of person is often quite good at sparking sympathy and protective feelings in others, at least initially. Harry wanted to protect her in a way he couldn't protect his mother. But the Meghan types become exhausting and difficult (note her string of broken relationships), and it is unfortunate Harry didn't heed his brother's advice and wait before plunging into an early marriage.

You are a vile, misogynistic hypocrite. Harry had many many many broken relationships before Meghan. And his earned accomplishments prior to marriage were minimal compared to Meghan’s. If he weren’t a lucky sperm born in the royal family, Meghan would have been the catch by far.

So let me get this straight: I am a misogynist because I happen to identify with another human being who lost his mother in circumstances not unlike those in which I lost my own mother, and this person happens to be male? Plus, I dislike this person's spouse, who happens to be female? Oh, OK then.

I don't know where the 'hypocrite' thing comes in here. My mum died young, and so did Harry's. Harry and I are the same age. I have always followed his misadventures (from the UK, where I lived) and identified with his blunders because they remind me of my own or my brother's, and I do think that losing a mother early and suddenly contributes to a lot of upheaval in a person's teen/young adult years. I sympathise with him and I don't think a person who hasn't lost a mother young can fully understand why.

And no, I don't think one can compare Harry's early romantic misadventures with Meghan's broken relationships with family and friends. It isn't the same thing at all.

As for her 'accomplishments', I don't think she is a very good actor, and her charitable efforts have been showy and crassly me-me-me.

Hm, you seem to think this thread is about you. It's not. And even when speaking about you, you, and more you, you speak of no accomplishments of your own while disparaging another person's accomplishments.

Right, I'll just my 'accomplishments' here on an anonymous forum so that anybody I know can recognise me here. Sure. OK.

This is a DISCUSSION thread, on a DISCUSSION forum. Sharing personal experiences that shed light on the experiences of others, or help to understand others, are what a forum/discussion like this is all about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My God, with the exception of the title of King, Harry has basically repeated history of his grandmother’s uncle. Fleeing to America with a divorcee and having to beg for an allowance. The hate and disdain for his fleeing just like it was back then. Ironically, the present Queen was the one to show a minimal bit of empathy for her Uncle that left to be an American playboy on the arm of his American actress who had carry nicknames for all the members of the Royal family. It’s uncanny. It’s like the followed the playbook.

Huge difference. The spares always are left to beg for money and places to live for themselves and their kids. Look at Charles siblings. Or how hard Andrew had to beg for a wedding for Beatrice. AND Charles has been very clear that he is planning to streamline the monarchy to direct heirs.

Harry is a much better person than his great uncle but honestly gave up much less for love.

Yes, I say good for Harry for leaving and making his own path. He has a beautiful wife, a beautiful son and lots of money. Let the haters hate.

Exactly. How many of these anti-H&M posters would want to turn forty still living at the financial mercy of a parent or older sibling? We tell our children everyday, forge your path and yet these posters are upset that a grown ass man finally did. So what if it took the help of a strong woman to give him the courage, at least he finally took the plunge.

I would never want to marry into the royal family. But she did, with eyes wide open and “ready to hit the ground running”. It’s unclear what happened, since she was gushing about the support the royal family was giving her and claiming they were the family she never had. They sent her on fancy tours and gave her all kinds of responsibilities (which is what she claims she wanted). Honestly in retrospect she should have heeded Michelle Obama’s advice, taken it slower, eased into the duties, or even taken a break before starting.

All of a sudden it was less about how she could serve the monarchy that she signed up for and more about her being a victim, of the mean press, mean will and Kate, mean dad and sister. She cried shamelessly about how hard her life was on a documentary that was supposed to be about their wildly successful Africa tour. When something actually awful happened to her - a miscarriage - she decides to squeeze out some public sympathy and write a saccharine op Ed about it in the NYT... it’s the me, me, me of it all that rubs people the wrong way. She seems to have no sense of her own incredible privilege.

+1 Even this narrative of their "escaping" makes me laugh. Sure, with the benefit of his family money to buy a mansion in a ritzy CA town. The privilege is insane and really no one wants to hear any more of her self-pity right now, no matter the subject.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My God, with the exception of the title of King, Harry has basically repeated history of his grandmother’s uncle. Fleeing to America with a divorcee and having to beg for an allowance. The hate and disdain for his fleeing just like it was back then. Ironically, the present Queen was the one to show a minimal bit of empathy for her Uncle that left to be an American playboy on the arm of his American actress who had carry nicknames for all the members of the Royal family. It’s uncanny. It’s like the followed the playbook.

Huge difference. The spares always are left to beg for money and places to live for themselves and their kids. Look at Charles siblings. Or how hard Andrew had to beg for a wedding for Beatrice. AND Charles has been very clear that he is planning to streamline the monarchy to direct heirs.

Harry is a much better person than his great uncle but honestly gave up much less for love.

Yes, I say good for Harry for leaving and making his own path. He has a beautiful wife, a beautiful son and lots of money. Let the haters hate.

Exactly. How many of these anti-H&M posters would want to turn forty still living at the financial mercy of a parent or older sibling? We tell our children everyday, forge your path and yet these posters are upset that a grown ass man finally did. So what if it took the help of a strong woman to give him the courage, at least he finally took the plunge.

I would never want to marry into the royal family. But she did, with eyes wide open and “ready to hit the ground running”. It’s unclear what happened, since she was gushing about the support the royal family was giving her and claiming they were the family she never had. They sent her on fancy tours and gave her all kinds of responsibilities (which is what she claims she wanted). Honestly in retrospect she should have heeded Michelle Obama’s advice, taken it slower, eased into the duties, or even taken a break before starting.

All of a sudden it was less about how she could serve the monarchy that she signed up for and more about her being a victim, of the mean press, mean will and Kate, mean dad and sister. She cried shamelessly about how hard her life was on a documentary that was supposed to be about their wildly successful Africa tour. When something actually awful happened to her - a miscarriage - she decides to squeeze out some public sympathy and write a saccharine op Ed about it in the NYT... it’s the me, me, me of it all that rubs people the wrong way. She seems to have no sense of her own incredible privilege.

We don't know what happened with Will and Kate, but you think her father and sister's (and brother's) behavior wasn't mean? Wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My God, with the exception of the title of King, Harry has basically repeated history of his grandmother’s uncle. Fleeing to America with a divorcee and having to beg for an allowance. The hate and disdain for his fleeing just like it was back then. Ironically, the present Queen was the one to show a minimal bit of empathy for her Uncle that left to be an American playboy on the arm of his American actress who had carry nicknames for all the members of the Royal family. It’s uncanny. It’s like the followed the playbook.

Huge difference. The spares always are left to beg for money and places to live for themselves and their kids. Look at Charles siblings. Or how hard Andrew had to beg for a wedding for Beatrice. AND Charles has been very clear that he is planning to streamline the monarchy to direct heirs.

Harry is a much better person than his great uncle but honestly gave up much less for love.

Yes, I say good for Harry for leaving and making his own path. He has a beautiful wife, a beautiful son and lots of money. Let the haters hate.

Exactly. How many of these anti-H&M posters would want to turn forty still living at the financial mercy of a parent or older sibling? We tell our children everyday, forge your path and yet these posters are upset that a grown ass man finally did. So what if it took the help of a strong woman to give him the courage, at least he finally took the plunge.

I would never want to marry into the royal family. But she did, with eyes wide open and “ready to hit the ground running”. It’s unclear what happened, since she was gushing about the support the royal family was giving her and claiming they were the family she never had. They sent her on fancy tours and gave her all kinds of responsibilities (which is what she claims she wanted). Honestly in retrospect she should have heeded Michelle Obama’s advice, taken it slower, eased into the duties, or even taken a break before starting.

All of a sudden it was less about how she could serve the monarchy that she signed up for and more about her being a victim, of the mean press, mean will and Kate, mean dad and sister. She cried shamelessly about how hard her life was on a documentary that was supposed to be about their wildly successful Africa tour. When something actually awful happened to her - a miscarriage - she decides to squeeze out some public sympathy and write a saccharine op Ed about it in the NYT... it’s the me, me, me of it all that rubs people the wrong way. She seems to have no sense of her own incredible privilege.

She doesn't rub most people the wrong way. A lot of us like her.

And I think a lot of people were moved by her recent essay, too. The anchor who read a few lines of it on the local news choked up on the air while reading it. Just sayin'.

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Yes. Rather than take the enormous privilege she has and channel it into focused work to help others (she doesn't have to, but this is what she has claimed to want for years) she uses her limited platform to continue painting herself as a victim because she is black, a woman, an American, older, etc., etc.

Deserved or misplaced as the judgment of her may be there is no question that her behavior is coming off as distasteful to a lot of people but she keeps pushing on. Now if she were still effective toward some goal worth supporting then I would say, Keep at it, Meghan, haters be damned! But there is nothing to really really around when it comes to her (or Harry). They have no clear message and although they don't technically need one if they were just living their lives, they are so insistent on being front and center... all the while reminding everyone how they aren't privileged or blessed.

It makes it harder to appreciate seeing them constantly pop up and criticize others.

I will say the miscarriage story is in a category of its own. We shouldn't react the same way as when she makes a surprise video appearance on America's got Talent, or whatever that was.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel for Harry, but I am sure we will be hearing of the divorce soon.

My own mother died young, and it definitely influenced my partner choices and relationships, and those of my brothers. Somehow that essential relationship being cut short in a sudden, traumatic way caused all of us to try to replay different aspects of how we related to our mother, revisiting things we regretted in our relationship with her as we forged new relationships; it took a long time before a therapist pointed this out to me. But I see Harry doing the same thing.

I think Meghan is quite good at presenting the 'woe is me' act, and this type of person is often quite good at sparking sympathy and protective feelings in others, at least initially. Harry wanted to protect her in a way he couldn't protect his mother. But the Meghan types become exhausting and difficult (note her string of broken relationships), and it is unfortunate Harry didn't heed his brother's advice and wait before plunging into an early marriage.

You are a vile, misogynistic hypocrite. Harry had many many many broken relationships before Meghan. And his earned accomplishments prior to marriage were minimal compared to Meghan’s. If he weren’t a lucky sperm born in the royal family, Meghan would have been the catch by far.

So let me get this straight: I am a misogynist because I happen to identify with another human being who lost his mother in circumstances not unlike those in which I lost my own mother, and this person happens to be male? Plus, I dislike this person's spouse, who happens to be female? Oh, OK then.

I don't know where the 'hypocrite' thing comes in here. My mum died young, and so did Harry's. Harry and I are the same age. I have always followed his misadventures (from the UK, where I lived) and identified with his blunders because they remind me of my own or my brother's, and I do think that losing a mother early and suddenly contributes to a lot of upheaval in a person's teen/young adult years. I sympathise with him and I don't think a person who hasn't lost a mother young can fully understand why.

And no, I don't think one can compare Harry's early romantic misadventures with Meghan's broken relationships with family and friends. It isn't the same thing at all.

As for her 'accomplishments', I don't think she is a very good actor, and her charitable efforts have been showy and crassly me-me-me.

I would normally report this to Jeff for being so self-indulgently OFF Topic but I don't want to ruin his Sunday morning.

This is a Megan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates thread people, not a confessional box for your family histories.

DP. This is nutty. This thread isn't only for updates. It's for discussion.

It's not for discussion about YOU its for discussion about THEM. Many many many posts are deleted daily from this thread because they are about the person posting not the subject UNDER DISCUSSION.

discussion doesn't mean free for all - otherwise people would be here on this thread talking about pizza places, how to train their dog from humping the mail man etc etc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes. Rather than take the enormous privilege she has and channel it into focused work to help others (she doesn't have to, but this is what she has claimed to want for years) she uses her limited platform to continue painting herself as a victim because she is black, a woman, an American, older, etc., etc.

Deserved or misplaced as the judgment of her may be there is no question that her behavior is coming off as distasteful to a lot of people but she keeps pushing on. Now if she were still effective toward some goal worth supporting then I would say, Keep at it, Meghan, haters be damned! But there is nothing to really really around when it comes to her (or Harry). They have no clear message and although they don't technically need one if they were just living their lives, they are so insistent on being front and center... all the while reminding everyone how they aren't privileged or blessed.

It makes it harder to appreciate seeing them constantly pop up and criticize others.

I will say the miscarriage story is in a category of its own. We shouldn't react the same way as when she makes a surprise video appearance on America's got Talent, or whatever that was.

Well, she has a small child. She's probably overwhelmed and having a hard time adjusting to her new reality, just like most people when they have small kids. Time will tell. I bet she will do good things in the future. (In another thread she was also criticized for 'getting in with the mommy crowd in LA' -- uh, why wouldn't she do that? She's a new mommy.)

[Anonymous]

She literally got lucky and married rich — and now wants to lecture women everywhere about how virtuous and great she is. There is nothing deep or impressive about her. Tacky attention seeker from a crazy family.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for Harry, but I am sure we will be hearing of the divorce soon.

My own mother died young, and it definitely influenced my partner choices and relationships, and those of my brothers. Somehow that essential relationship being cut short in a sudden, traumatic way caused all of us to try to replay different aspects of how we related to our mother, revisiting things we regretted in our relationship with her as we forged new relationships; it took a long time before a therapist pointed this out to me. But I see Harry doing the same thing.

I think Meghan is quite good at presenting the 'woe is me' act, and this type of person is often quite good at sparking sympathy and protective feelings in others, at least initially. Harry wanted to protect her in a way he couldn't protect his mother. But the Meghan types become exhausting and difficult (note her string of broken relationships), and it is unfortunate Harry didn't heed his brother's advice and wait before plunging into an early marriage.

You are a vile, misogynistic hypocrite. Harry had many many many broken relationships before Meghan. And his earned accomplishments prior to marriage were minimal compared to Meghan’s. If he weren’t a lucky sperm born in the royal family, Meghan would have been the catch by far.

No, actually Harry was quite close to his family, especially William and Kate, before Meghan. He also has a large group of friends he went to school with who he was close with until Meghan. Meghan, on the other hand, is estranged from all her family except her mother. This is interesting given that she was raised by her father after her parents’ divorce. She also has almost no long-term friends, none from her childhood, college or early acting years. There are multiple reports on this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel for Harry, but I am sure we will be hearing of the divorce soon.

My own mother died young, and it definitely influenced my partner choices and relationships, and those of my brothers. Somehow that essential relationship being cut short in a sudden, traumatic way caused all of us to try to replay different aspects of how we related to our mother, revisiting things we regretted in our relationship with her as we forged new relationships; it took a long time before a therapist pointed this out to me. But I see Harry doing the same thing.

I think Meghan is quite good at presenting the 'woe is me' act, and this type of person is often quite good at sparking sympathy and protective feelings in others, at least initially. Harry wanted to protect her in a way he couldn't protect his mother. But the Meghan types become exhausting and difficult (note her string of broken relationships), and it is unfortunate Harry didn't heed his brother's advice and wait before plunging into an early marriage.

You are a vile, misogynistic hypocrite. Harry had many many many broken relationships before Meghan. And his earned accomplishments prior to marriage were minimal compared to Meghan’s. If he weren’t a lucky sperm born in the royal family, Meghan would have been the catch by far.

So let me get this straight: I am a misogynist because I happen to identify with another human being who lost his mother in circumstances not unlike those in which I lost my own mother, and this person happens to be male? Plus, I dislike this person's spouse, who happens to be female? Oh, OK then.

I don't know where the 'hypocrite' thing comes in here. My mum died young, and so did Harry's. Harry and I are the same age. I have always followed his misadventures (from the UK, where I lived) and identified with his blunders because they remind me of my own or my brother's, and I do think that losing a mother early and suddenly contributes to a lot of upheaval in a person's teen/young adult years. I sympathise with him and I don't think a person who hasn't lost a mother young can fully understand why.

And no, I don't think one can compare Harry's early romantic misadventures with Meghan's broken relationships with family and friends. It isn't the same thing at all.

As for her 'accomplishments', I don't think she is a very good actor, and her charitable efforts have been showy and crassly me-me-me.

I would normally report this to Jeff for being so self-indulgently OFF Topic but I don't want to ruin his Sunday morning.

This is a Megan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates thread people, not a confessional box for your family histories.

DP. This is nutty. This thread isn't only for updates. It's for discussion.

It's not for discussion about YOU its for discussion about THEM. Many many many posts are deleted daily from this thread because they are about the person posting not the subject UNDER DISCUSSION.

discussion doesn't mean free for all - otherwise people would be here on this thread talking about pizza places, how to train their dog from humping the mail man etc etc

You sound very confused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel for Harry, but I am sure we will be hearing of the divorce soon.

My own mother died young, and it definitely influenced my partner choices and relationships, and those of my brothers. Somehow that essential relationship being cut short in a sudden, traumatic way caused all of us to try to replay different aspects of how we related to our mother, revisiting things we regretted in our relationship with her as we forged new relationships; it took a long time before a therapist pointed this out to me. But I see Harry doing the same thing.

I think Meghan is quite good at presenting the 'woe is me' act, and this type of person is often quite good at sparking sympathy and protective feelings in others, at least initially. Harry wanted to protect her in a way he couldn't protect his mother. But the Meghan types become exhausting and difficult (note her string of broken relationships), and it is unfortunate Harry didn't heed his brother's advice and wait before plunging into an early marriage.

You are a vile, misogynistic hypocrite. Harry had many many many broken relationships before Meghan. And his earned accomplishments prior to marriage were minimal compared to Meghan’s. If he weren’t a lucky sperm born in the royal family, Meghan would have been the catch by far.

No, actually Harry was quite close to his family, especially William and Kate, before Meghan. He also has a large group of friends he went to school with who he was close with until Meghan. Meghan, on the other hand, is estranged from all her family except her mother. This is interesting given that she was raised by her father after her parents’ divorce. She also has almost no long-term friends, none from her childhood, college or early acting years. There are multiple reports on this.

Good for her for being estranged from them. Do you not know what they did? Their public vilification of their own family member -- Meghan -- is the only proof most normal people need that being estranged was the right choice. It's not surprising she has no long-term friends, coming from that toxic, dangerous family. I'm sure that's what Harry has in common with her -- they've both had to learn to navigate through mine fields.

[Anonymous]

Does anybody else feel as if this thread should be renamed the 'Thread to post accolades for Meghan' thread? Because it seems that anything other than accolades for Meghan attracts alarming vitriol.