Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates

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Anonymous wrote:Does anybody else feel as if this thread should be renamed the 'Thread to post accolades for Meghan' thread? Because it seems that anything other than accolades for Meghan attracts alarming vitriol.

LOL Trumpism mind games in action. No, I feel quite the opposite -- this thread is a place to bash MM and anything less than piling on is seen as shocking to her detractors. Sorry, it's either a thread to discuss her or not. Lots of people like her. I don't know why that is surprising to you.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for Harry, but I am sure we will be hearing of the divorce soon.

My own mother died young, and it definitely influenced my partner choices and relationships, and those of my brothers. Somehow that essential relationship being cut short in a sudden, traumatic way caused all of us to try to replay different aspects of how we related to our mother, revisiting things we regretted in our relationship with her as we forged new relationships; it took a long time before a therapist pointed this out to me. But I see Harry doing the same thing.

I think Meghan is quite good at presenting the 'woe is me' act, and this type of person is often quite good at sparking sympathy and protective feelings in others, at least initially. Harry wanted to protect her in a way he couldn't protect his mother. But the Meghan types become exhausting and difficult (note her string of broken relationships), and it is unfortunate Harry didn't heed his brother's advice and wait before plunging into an early marriage.

You are a vile, misogynistic hypocrite. Harry had many many many broken relationships before Meghan. And his earned accomplishments prior to marriage were minimal compared to Meghan’s. If he weren’t a lucky sperm born in the royal family, Meghan would have been the catch by far.

So let me get this straight: I am a misogynist because I happen to identify with another human being who lost his mother in circumstances not unlike those in which I lost my own mother, and this person happens to be male? Plus, I dislike this person's spouse, who happens to be female? Oh, OK then.

I don't know where the 'hypocrite' thing comes in here. My mum died young, and so did Harry's. Harry and I are the same age. I have always followed his misadventures (from the UK, where I lived) and identified with his blunders because they remind me of my own or my brother's, and I do think that losing a mother early and suddenly contributes to a lot of upheaval in a person's teen/young adult years. I sympathise with him and I don't think a person who hasn't lost a mother young can fully understand why.

And no, I don't think one can compare Harry's early romantic misadventures with Meghan's broken relationships with family and friends. It isn't the same thing at all.

As for her 'accomplishments', I don't think she is a very good actor, and her charitable efforts have been showy and crassly me-me-me.

Everything she does is seen as "me-me-me" by her detractors. Even having a miscarriage was described upthread as a PR stunt. I'm sure the charities are happy to have her work, her money and her attention, no matter what her motives may be. I wish I were in a position to make a difference to a charity just by showing up. I would love that.

Her miscarriage was not “me-me-me,” her NYT piece about it was. Meghan is in the position to truly make a difference if she wanted to but her actions indicate that is not her motive. Her motive is making money and promoting herself. It’s been almost a year since they left the U.K. Where are they on setting up their charity? They’ve managed to make a deal with Netflix, buy a mansion, create several photo-ops, but have done minimal to promote any charity. They could have made a big difference staying with the royals and dedicating their lives to quiet charity work but that is not what Meghan wanted. I believe it’s what Harry initially intended based on his early comments about how his family would become Meghan’s and how he knew she would hit the ground running as a working Royal.

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Is this thread a top hit on Google or something? It truly seems like MM herself is posting here. I refuse to believe anyone in the DMV cares this much about a 40-year-old tone deaf talentless nobody who lucked into a famous rich guy.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this thread a top hit on Google or something? It truly seems like MM herself is posting here. I refuse to believe anyone in the DMV cares this much about a 40-year-old tone deaf talentless nobody who lucked into a famous rich guy.

That poster will soon pop up to inform you that you are a vile, misogynistic hypocrite, and ask why it is so hard for you to understand (her views).

Honestly, I'm now just turned in to this thread to watch the crazy. It isn't bobcat level delusion, but I feel it has potential to reach that level.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for Harry, but I am sure we will be hearing of the divorce soon.

My own mother died young, and it definitely influenced my partner choices and relationships, and those of my brothers. Somehow that essential relationship being cut short in a sudden, traumatic way caused all of us to try to replay different aspects of how we related to our mother, revisiting things we regretted in our relationship with her as we forged new relationships; it took a long time before a therapist pointed this out to me. But I see Harry doing the same thing.

I think Meghan is quite good at presenting the 'woe is me' act, and this type of person is often quite good at sparking sympathy and protective feelings in others, at least initially. Harry wanted to protect her in a way he couldn't protect his mother. But the Meghan types become exhausting and difficult (note her string of broken relationships), and it is unfortunate Harry didn't heed his brother's advice and wait before plunging into an early marriage.

You are a vile, misogynistic hypocrite. Harry had many many many broken relationships before Meghan. And his earned accomplishments prior to marriage were minimal compared to Meghan’s. If he weren’t a lucky sperm born in the royal family, Meghan would have been the catch by far.

No, actually Harry was quite close to his family, especially William and Kate, before Meghan. He also has a large group of friends he went to school with who he was close with until Meghan. Meghan, on the other hand, is estranged from all her family except her mother. This is interesting given that she was raised by her father after her parents’ divorce. She also has almost no long-term friends, none from her childhood, college or early acting years. There are multiple reports on this.

Good for her for being estranged from them. Do you not know what they did? Their public vilification of their own family member -- Meghan -- is the only proof most normal people need that being estranged was the right choice. It's not surprising she has no long-term friends, coming from that toxic, dangerous family. I'm sure that's what Harry has in common with her -- they've both had to learn to navigate through mine fields.

Aunts, uncles, cousins? Were they all mean? Seriously, is there no one in her family other than her mother? What about old friends? It speaks volumes that there are no old friends. It’s also strange how she went from praising her dad on The Tig to not even introducing him to her boyfriend then fiancée. Thomas Markle seems crazy and is certainly no saint but imagine how hurtful it was that she wouldn’t introduce him to Harry. I do believe she was embarrassed for him to meet the royals and that she was at least partly to blame for their relationship fiasco. It’s certainly apparent now that her letter to him was not a letter from a daughter to a father but written with the help of her communication team for the purpose of being published and promoting her narrative.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for Harry, but I am sure we will be hearing of the divorce soon.

My own mother died young, and it definitely influenced my partner choices and relationships, and those of my brothers. Somehow that essential relationship being cut short in a sudden, traumatic way caused all of us to try to replay different aspects of how we related to our mother, revisiting things we regretted in our relationship with her as we forged new relationships; it took a long time before a therapist pointed this out to me. But I see Harry doing the same thing.

I think Meghan is quite good at presenting the 'woe is me' act, and this type of person is often quite good at sparking sympathy and protective feelings in others, at least initially. Harry wanted to protect her in a way he couldn't protect his mother. But the Meghan types become exhausting and difficult (note her string of broken relationships), and it is unfortunate Harry didn't heed his brother's advice and wait before plunging into an early marriage.

You are a vile, misogynistic hypocrite. Harry had many many many broken relationships before Meghan. And his earned accomplishments prior to marriage were minimal compared to Meghan’s. If he weren’t a lucky sperm born in the royal family, Meghan would have been the catch by far.

So let me get this straight: I am a misogynist because I happen to identify with another human being who lost his mother in circumstances not unlike those in which I lost my own mother, and this person happens to be male? Plus, I dislike this person's spouse, who happens to be female? Oh, OK then.

I don't know where the 'hypocrite' thing comes in here. My mum died young, and so did Harry's. Harry and I are the same age. I have always followed his misadventures (from the UK, where I lived) and identified with his blunders because they remind me of my own or my brother's, and I do think that losing a mother early and suddenly contributes to a lot of upheaval in a person's teen/young adult years. I sympathise with him and I don't think a person who hasn't lost a mother young can fully understand why.

And no, I don't think one can compare Harry's early romantic misadventures with Meghan's broken relationships with family and friends. It isn't the same thing at all.

As for her 'accomplishments', I don't think she is a very good actor, and her charitable efforts have been showy and crassly me-me-me.

Everything she does is seen as "me-me-me" by her detractors. Even having a miscarriage was described upthread as a PR stunt. I'm sure the charities are happy to have her work, her money and her attention, no matter what her motives may be. I wish I were in a position to make a difference to a charity just by showing up. I would love that.

Her miscarriage was not “me-me-me,” her NYT piece about it was. Meghan is in the position to truly make a difference if she wanted to but her actions indicate that is not her motive. Her motive is making money and promoting herself. It’s been almost a year since they left the U.K. Where are they on setting up their charity? They’ve managed to make a deal with Netflix, buy a mansion, create several photo-ops, but have done minimal to promote any charity. They could have made a big difference staying with the royals and dedicating their lives to quiet charity work but that is not what Meghan wanted. I believe it’s what Harry initially intended based on his early comments about how his family would become Meghan’s and how he knew she would hit the ground running as a working Royal.

Give it some time. They're dealing with starting a new family, which is overwhelming for most people. Let's see what happens in a few years.

[Anonymous]

It's like Hillaria Baldwin. I don't like either woman they're both narcissists. But amazing to watch them manipulate others from afar.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. Rather than take the enormous privilege she has and channel it into focused work to help others (she doesn't have to, but this is what she has claimed to want for years) she uses her limited platform to continue painting herself as a victim because she is black, a woman, an American, older, etc., etc.

Deserved or misplaced as the judgment of her may be there is no question that her behavior is coming off as distasteful to a lot of people but she keeps pushing on. Now if she were still effective toward some goal worth supporting then I would say, Keep at it, Meghan, haters be damned! But there is nothing to really really around when it comes to her (or Harry). They have no clear message and although they don't technically need one if they were just living their lives, they are so insistent on being front and center... all the while reminding everyone how they aren't privileged or blessed.

It makes it harder to appreciate seeing them constantly pop up and criticize others.

I will say the miscarriage story is in a category of its own. We shouldn't react the same way as when she makes a surprise video appearance on America's got Talent, or whatever that was.

Well, she has a small child. She's probably overwhelmed and having a hard time adjusting to her new reality, just like most people when they have small kids. Time will tell. I bet she will do good things in the future. (In another thread she was also criticized for 'getting in with the mommy crowd in LA' -- uh, why wouldn't she do that? She's a new mommy.)

OK, possibly she is still adjusting, but then the prudent move for Meghan and Harry would be to live their private lives as they said the wanted. I understand the bills come due and they need to earn money like anyone else, but their choices are confusing, at best. They are positioning themselves as charity foundation people. Sure, makes sense considering Harry's life of public service. But what are the issues? You cannot effectively tackle voter rights, BLM, feminism, veterans causes, domestic politics, international relations and local food scarcity concurrently.

It would make more sense, and be more forgiving to the public eye, if they narrowed their focus, threw their weight behind some personally meaningful projects and stopped telling us how hard their lives are. They should take another break and reconsider their plans.

Harry and Meghan make it difficult to root for them when they insist that the public not only accept them but cheer for them with every questionable step.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for Harry, but I am sure we will be hearing of the divorce soon.

My own mother died young, and it definitely influenced my partner choices and relationships, and those of my brothers. Somehow that essential relationship being cut short in a sudden, traumatic way caused all of us to try to replay different aspects of how we related to our mother, revisiting things we regretted in our relationship with her as we forged new relationships; it took a long time before a therapist pointed this out to me. But I see Harry doing the same thing.

I think Meghan is quite good at presenting the 'woe is me' act, and this type of person is often quite good at sparking sympathy and protective feelings in others, at least initially. Harry wanted to protect her in a way he couldn't protect his mother. But the Meghan types become exhausting and difficult (note her string of broken relationships), and it is unfortunate Harry didn't heed his brother's advice and wait before plunging into an early marriage.

You are a vile, misogynistic hypocrite. Harry had many many many broken relationships before Meghan. And his earned accomplishments prior to marriage were minimal compared to Meghan’s. If he weren’t a lucky sperm born in the royal family, Meghan would have been the catch by far.

No, actually Harry was quite close to his family, especially William and Kate, before Meghan. He also has a large group of friends he went to school with who he was close with until Meghan. Meghan, on the other hand, is estranged from all her family except her mother. This is interesting given that she was raised by her father after her parents’ divorce. She also has almost no long-term friends, none from her childhood, college or early acting years. There are multiple reports on this.

Good for her for being estranged from them. Do you not know what they did? Their public vilification of their own family member -- Meghan -- is the only proof most normal people need that being estranged was the right choice. It's not surprising she has no long-term friends, coming from that toxic, dangerous family. I'm sure that's what Harry has in common with her -- they've both had to learn to navigate through mine fields.

Aunts, uncles, cousins? Were they all mean? Seriously, is there no one in her family other than her mother? What about old friends? It speaks volumes that there are no old friends. It’s also strange how she went from praising her dad on The Tig to not even introducing him to her boyfriend then fiancée. Thomas Markle seems crazy and is certainly no saint but imagine how hurtful it was that she wouldn’t introduce him to Harry. I do believe she was embarrassed for him to meet the royals and that she was at least partly to blame for their relationship fiasco. It’s certainly apparent now that her letter to him was not a letter from a daughter to a father but written with the help of her communication team for the purpose of being published and promoting her narrative.

He's not only batshit crazy but also tried to harm his own child -- in public. That's a whole 'nother level of crazy. Why would she want to introduce that man to her bf? That letter was after the inexcusable actions of her so-called father.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anybody else feel as if this thread should be renamed the 'Thread to post accolades for Meghan' thread? Because it seems that anything other than accolades for Meghan attracts alarming vitriol.

You seem to be ignoring the racist posts from MM haters that get regularly deleted by Jeff. It is consistently bizarre to me how the MM haters seem to want to pretend that some of their fellow MM hater posters aren't vile racists that post vile racist things.

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I understand why Meghan didn't want her family around the royals. Embarrassing. And I don't fault her from trying very hard to keep a buffer between them in such a public situation. But the minute that letter from Meghan to her father was published I chuckled. Did anyone, anywhere think it read like a private correspondence? Of course it was crafted and leaked. I gave her some leeway, though, because she was fighting crazy with crazy. But that doesn't work on the global stage and that Maury Povich level of family infighting is coming back to bite her.

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Anonymous wrote:My God, with the exception of the title of King, Harry has basically repeated history of his grandmother’s uncle. Fleeing to America with a divorcee and having to beg for an allowance. The hate and disdain for his fleeing just like it was back then. Ironically, the present Queen was the one to show a minimal bit of empathy for her Uncle that left to be an American playboy on the arm of his American actress who had carry nicknames for all the members of the Royal family. It’s uncanny. It’s like the followed the playbook.

Huge difference. The spares always are left to beg for money and places to live for themselves and their kids. Look at Charles siblings. Or how hard Andrew had to beg for a wedding for Beatrice. AND Charles has been very clear that he is planning to streamline the monarchy to direct heirs.

Harry is a much better person than his great uncle but honestly gave up much less for love.

Yes, I say good for Harry for leaving and making his own path. He has a beautiful wife, a beautiful son and lots of money. Let the haters hate.

Exactly. How many of these anti-H&M posters would want to turn forty still living at the financial mercy of a parent or older sibling? We tell our children everyday, forge your path and yet these posters are upset that a grown ass man finally did. So what if it took the help of a strong woman to give him the courage, at least he finally took the plunge.

Yes, that's very American. And if Harry wants to be American, good for him.

Meghan wants to be a duchess, though, which is the opposite of being American. When she was an American duchess in England, she was interesting. Now that she's an American duchess in America, she's interesting but not in a good way.

Are you saying that Americans are the only people who who want better for their children? Are you saying that people around the world want their children to always be dependent on mommy and daddy? How pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:My God, with the exception of the title of King, Harry has basically repeated history of his grandmother’s uncle. Fleeing to America with a divorcee and having to beg for an allowance. The hate and disdain for his fleeing just like it was back then. Ironically, the present Queen was the one to show a minimal bit of empathy for her Uncle that left to be an American playboy on the arm of his American actress who had carry nicknames for all the members of the Royal family. It’s uncanny. It’s like the followed the playbook.

Huge difference. The spares always are left to beg for money and places to live for themselves and their kids. Look at Charles siblings. Or how hard Andrew had to beg for a wedding for Beatrice. AND Charles has been very clear that he is planning to streamline the monarchy to direct heirs.

Harry is a much better person than his great uncle but honestly gave up much less for love.

Yes, I say good for Harry for leaving and making his own path. He has a beautiful wife, a beautiful son and lots of money. Let the haters hate.

Exactly. How many of these anti-H&M posters would want to turn forty still living at the financial mercy of a parent or older sibling? We tell our children everyday, forge your path and yet these posters are upset that a grown ass man finally did. So what if it took the help of a strong woman to give him the courage, at least he finally took the plunge.

Yes, that's very American. And if Harry wants to be American, good for him.

Meghan wants to be a duchess, though, which is the opposite of being American. When she was an American duchess in England, she was interesting. Now that she's an American duchess in America, she's interesting but not in a good way.

Are you saying that Americans are the only people who who want better for their children? Are you saying that people around the world want their children to always be dependent on mommy and daddy? How pathetic.

1. PP is clearly not saying anything like what you are implying here. I can't understand how you got that out of the PP's post, to be honest.

2. "How pathetic." Are you the person who posted on the Website Feedback thread, complaining about the hateful language of the people who are not MM fans?

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Anonymous wrote:My God, with the exception of the title of King, Harry has basically repeated history of his grandmother’s uncle. Fleeing to America with a divorcee and having to beg for an allowance. The hate and disdain for his fleeing just like it was back then. Ironically, the present Queen was the one to show a minimal bit of empathy for her Uncle that left to be an American playboy on the arm of his American actress who had carry nicknames for all the members of the Royal family. It’s uncanny. It’s like the followed the playbook.

Huge difference. The spares always are left to beg for money and places to live for themselves and their kids. Look at Charles siblings. Or how hard Andrew had to beg for a wedding for Beatrice. AND Charles has been very clear that he is planning to streamline the monarchy to direct heirs.

Harry is a much better person than his great uncle but honestly gave up much less for love.

Yes, I say good for Harry for leaving and making his own path. He has a beautiful wife, a beautiful son and lots of money. Let the haters hate.

Exactly. How many of these anti-H&M posters would want to turn forty still living at the financial mercy of a parent or older sibling? We tell our children everyday, forge your path and yet these posters are upset that a grown ass man finally did. So what if it took the help of a strong woman to give him the courage, at least he finally took the plunge.

I would never want to marry into the royal family. But she did, with eyes wide open and “ready to hit the ground running”. It’s unclear what happened, since she was gushing about the support the royal family was giving her and claiming they were the family she never had. They sent her on fancy tours and gave her all kinds of responsibilities (which is what she claims she wanted). Honestly in retrospect she should have heeded Michelle Obama’s advice, taken it slower, eased into the duties, or even taken a break before starting.

All of a sudden it was less about how she could serve the monarchy that she signed up for and more about her being a victim, of the mean press, mean will and Kate, mean dad and sister. She cried shamelessly about how hard her life was on a documentary that was supposed to be about their wildly successful Africa tour. When something actually awful happened to her - a miscarriage - she decides to squeeze out some public sympathy and write a saccharine op Ed about it in the NYT... it’s the me, me, me of it all that rubs people the wrong way. She seems to have no sense of her own incredible privilege.

At least you admit that you do not know what actually happened. None of us on this board know. Also, DCUM and other mommy boards are littered with wives who married into families they don't get along with. Yet they married into these families because they loved their husband. DCUM and perhaps even you have encouraged these women to distance themselves from their husband's family. Why does MM have to have separate standards than what you and others do not hold for yourselves when it comes to in-laws.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for Harry, but I am sure we will be hearing of the divorce soon.

My own mother died young, and it definitely influenced my partner choices and relationships, and those of my brothers. Somehow that essential relationship being cut short in a sudden, traumatic way caused all of us to try to replay different aspects of how we related to our mother, revisiting things we regretted in our relationship with her as we forged new relationships; it took a long time before a therapist pointed this out to me. But I see Harry doing the same thing.

I think Meghan is quite good at presenting the 'woe is me' act, and this type of person is often quite good at sparking sympathy and protective feelings in others, at least initially. Harry wanted to protect her in a way he couldn't protect his mother. But the Meghan types become exhausting and difficult (note her string of broken relationships), and it is unfortunate Harry didn't heed his brother's advice and wait before plunging into an early marriage.

You are a vile, misogynistic hypocrite. Harry had many many many broken relationships before Meghan. And his earned accomplishments prior to marriage were minimal compared to Meghan’s. If he weren’t a lucky sperm born in the royal family, Meghan would have been the catch by far.

So let me get this straight: I am a misogynist because I happen to identify with another human being who lost his mother in circumstances not unlike those in which I lost my own mother, and this person happens to be male? Plus, I dislike this person's spouse, who happens to be female? Oh, OK then.

I don't know where the 'hypocrite' thing comes in here. My mum died young, and so did Harry's. Harry and I are the same age. I have always followed his misadventures (from the UK, where I lived) and identified with his blunders because they remind me of my own or my brother's, and I do think that losing a mother early and suddenly contributes to a lot of upheaval in a person's teen/young adult years. I sympathise with him and I don't think a person who hasn't lost a mother young can fully understand why.

And no, I don't think one can compare Harry's early romantic misadventures with Meghan's broken relationships with family and friends. It isn't the same thing at all.

As for her 'accomplishments', I don't think she is a very good actor, and her charitable efforts have been showy and crassly me-me-me.

Hm, you seem to think this thread is about you. It's not. And even when speaking about you, you, and more you, you speak of no accomplishments of your own while disparaging another person's accomplishments.

Right, I'll just my 'accomplishments' here on an anonymous forum so that anybody I know can recognise me here. Sure. OK.

This is a DISCUSSION thread, on a DISCUSSION forum. Sharing personal experiences that shed light on the experiences of others, or help to understand others, are what a forum/discussion like this is all about.

Nah, you made it about you, as if you were somehow special. You are not. This thread is about MM and Harry, not you. Nobody cares about you