FCPS Skyview Boundary Revised Scenario 1 / 2

[Anonymous]

Given Seema Dixit and the SB's and FCPS's completely disinterest in any equity and academic issues raised regarding Westfield's numbers, Westfield parents should be very concerned that the loudest criers in the room will get their way and the Walney area and Cub Run people will be moved back to Chantilly, leaving them only with new students from Chantilly Mews and the Bull Run apartment island.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Westfield parent who was at the meeting. I was hoping to speak with someone from FCPS or the School Board after the meeting.

So many people were complaining about being moved to our school. I was not sure how to stand up and say people should be moved whether they like it or not.

Frankly I was disgusted with Seema continualy "empathizing" with those people like being moved to Westfield is like a death in the family. Her attitude was all wrong. No one up there said one positive thing about Westfield.

Not to be rude, but why didn't you speak in public?

NP- It take a very confident public speaker to stand up and tell a bunch of people to stop complaining about being moved to your kids school.

Not really, you can have intense emotions as well.

The truth of the matter is that NO ONE should have to be going to a meeting and begging FCPS to do their job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Given Seema Dixit and the SB's and FCPS's completely disinterest in any equity and academic issues raised regarding Westfield's numbers, Westfield parents should be very concerned that the loudest criers in the room will get their way and the Walney area and Cub Run people will be moved back to Chantilly, leaving them only with new students from Chantilly Mews and the Bull Run apartment island.

I agree that based on precedent here it is VERY LIKELY that Walney Village will get moved back to Chantilly. "its a small neighborhood, what's the big deal" etc etc etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The entire Walney area should be moved to Westfield. Brookfield should be a 50% split feeder. The Chantilly Mews kids should be moved back to CHS. The rest of Bull Run should be moved to Westfield. That would give Westfield around 2300-2400 students.

What would that do to Centreville? If people are worried about what Westfield can offer with 2100 kids they should ask what Centreville could offer with 1800 kids.

The bigger problem here is that they should have taken a harder look at the Oakton boundaries. When you open Skyview but leave Oakton with over 2700 kids you are ensuring some other schools serving western Fairfax are going to shrink drastically.

Instead they followed their typical approach of saying they want to move as few kids as possible. But when their starting point is moving over 1000 kids out of Westfield to populate Skyview, that approach no longer makes sense.

These people screw everything up, over and over again. And they pay themselves on the back for doing it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire Walney area should be moved to Westfield. Brookfield should be a 50% split feeder. The Chantilly Mews kids should be moved back to CHS. The rest of Bull Run should be moved to Westfield. That would give Westfield around 2300-2400 students.

this is what a reasonable, functioning school system would do.

I think the Trinity island should stay at Centreville, and because of its expansion, move Robinson portion of Union Mill to Centreville, and portions of the Fairfax Island (Powell, Eagle View, Willow Springs) into it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire Walney area should be moved to Westfield. Brookfield should be a 50% split feeder. The Chantilly Mews kids should be moved back to CHS. The rest of Bull Run should be moved to Westfield. That would give Westfield around 2300-2400 students.

this is what a reasonable, functioning school system would do.

I think the Trinity island should stay at Centreville, and because of its expansion, move Robinson portion of Union Mill to Centreville, and portions of the Fairfax Island (Powell, Eagle View, Willow Springs) into it.

They need to revisit any expansion of Centreville given the seats added at Skyview and soon to be available at Herndon, South Lakes, and Westfield.

People on these threads are very keen on maintaining high enrollments at some schools even if it means gutting other schools. It turns into a game of musical chairs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire Walney area should be moved to Westfield. Brookfield should be a 50% split feeder. The Chantilly Mews kids should be moved back to CHS. The rest of Bull Run should be moved to Westfield. That would give Westfield around 2300-2400 students.

this is what a reasonable, functioning school system would do.

I think the Trinity island should stay at Centreville, and because of its expansion, move Robinson portion of Union Mill to Centreville, and portions of the Fairfax Island (Powell, Eagle View, Willow Springs) into it.

They shouldn't be expanding centreville at ALL.
They can't/won't fill an existing 3000-seat school right next door at Westfield.
The idea is absurd.

[Anonymous]

If I look at the existing Westfield boundary and the new Westfield boundary, it looks like it has been split into half where the upper half goes to Skyview and lower half goes to Westfield. So what is the outcry about? Or am I missing something?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire Walney area should be moved to Westfield. Brookfield should be a 50% split feeder. The Chantilly Mews kids should be moved back to CHS. The rest of Bull Run should be moved to Westfield. That would give Westfield around 2300-2400 students.

What would that do to Centreville? If people are worried about what Westfield can offer with 2100 kids they should ask what Centreville could offer with 1800 kids.

The bigger problem here is that they should have taken a harder look at the Oakton boundaries. When you open Skyview but leave Oakton with over 2700 kids you are ensuring some other schools serving western Fairfax are going to shrink drastically.

Instead they followed their typical approach of saying they want to move as few kids as possible. But when their starting point is moving over 1000 kids out of Westfield to populate Skyview, that approach no longer makes sense.

These people screw everything up, over and over again. And they pay themselves on the back for doing it.

Centreville is already a very small school. I think they have around 2100 students right now, and that's overcrowded. I don't think losing half of Bull Run would make much difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire Walney area should be moved to Westfield. Brookfield should be a 50% split feeder. The Chantilly Mews kids should be moved back to CHS. The rest of Bull Run should be moved to Westfield. That would give Westfield around 2300-2400 students.

What would that do to Centreville? If people are worried about what Westfield can offer with 2100 kids they should ask what Centreville could offer with 1800 kids.

The bigger problem here is that they should have taken a harder look at the Oakton boundaries. When you open Skyview but leave Oakton with over 2700 kids you are ensuring some other schools serving western Fairfax are going to shrink drastically.

Instead they followed their typical approach of saying they want to move as few kids as possible. But when their starting point is moving over 1000 kids out of Westfield to populate Skyview, that approach no longer makes sense.

These people screw everything up, over and over again. And they pay themselves on the back for doing it.

Centreville is already a very small school. I think they have around 2100 students right now, and that's overcrowded. I don't think losing half of Bull Run would make much difference.

It would actually bring them into FCPS's "ideal capacity" zone. The capacity is only 1943 students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire Walney area should be moved to Westfield. Brookfield should be a 50% split feeder. The Chantilly Mews kids should be moved back to CHS. The rest of Bull Run should be moved to Westfield. That would give Westfield around 2300-2400 students.

What would that do to Centreville? If people are worried about what Westfield can offer with 2100 kids they should ask what Centreville could offer with 1800 kids.

The bigger problem here is that they should have taken a harder look at the Oakton boundaries. When you open Skyview but leave Oakton with over 2700 kids you are ensuring some other schools serving western Fairfax are going to shrink drastically.

Instead they followed their typical approach of saying they want to move as few kids as possible. But when their starting point is moving over 1000 kids out of Westfield to populate Skyview, that approach no longer makes sense.

These people screw everything up, over and over again. And they pay themselves on the back for doing it.

There is no parallel here. Whether or not kids from the Oakton boundary were moved to Skyview or not has nothing to do with the movement of students out of Westfield.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a Westfield parent who was at the meeting. I was hoping to speak with someone from FCPS or the School Board after the meeting.

So many people were complaining about being moved to our school. I was not sure how to stand up and say people should be moved whether they like it or not.

Frankly I was disgusted with Seema continualy "empathizing" with those people like being moved to Westfield is like a death in the family. Her attitude was all wrong. No one up there said one positive thing about Westfield.

Not to be rude, but why didn't you speak in public?

NP- It take a very confident public speaker to stand up and tell a bunch of people to stop complaining about being moved to your kids school.

Not really, you can have intense emotions as well.

The truth of the matter is that NO ONE should have to be going to a meeting and begging FCPS to do their job.

+1

I have no kids in school currently, but I have followed boundary issues for a long time. My neighborhood as gone through all the western Fairfax boundary issues for decades.

I do not recall ANY study being done in this manner.
I think there were initial large meetings for the community that explained what the process would be before the study began.
Then, the meetings held with SB members were more on an individual school basis. I do know our neighborhood had meetings with SB members and that "opposing" neighborhoods also had meetings to explain their views.
I don't ever recall demeaning another school based on property values and elitism.
The SB members NEVER made a promise to us. (In one of these studies, our SB member supported a different neighborhood to stay put over ours. However, we had a strong argument based on objective reasons for our school to stay over the other neighborhood. )

I have always been a proponent for proximity/community over status.

It is the SB member's job to look out for all their constituents. It is clear that Dixit does not understand that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire Walney area should be moved to Westfield. Brookfield should be a 50% split feeder. The Chantilly Mews kids should be moved back to CHS. The rest of Bull Run should be moved to Westfield. That would give Westfield around 2300-2400 students.

What would that do to Centreville? If people are worried about what Westfield can offer with 2100 kids they should ask what Centreville could offer with 1800 kids.

The bigger problem here is that they should have taken a harder look at the Oakton boundaries. When you open Skyview but leave Oakton with over 2700 kids you are ensuring some other schools serving western Fairfax are going to shrink drastically.

Instead they followed their typical approach of saying they want to move as few kids as possible. But when their starting point is moving over 1000 kids out of Westfield to populate Skyview, that approach no longer makes sense.

These people screw everything up, over and over again. And they pay themselves on the back for doing it.

There is no parallel here. Whether or not kids from the Oakton boundary were moved to Skyview or not has nothing to do with the movement of students out of Westfield.

+1
I think an objective SB would have moved Crossfield to Skyview, but I agree, this has nothing to do with backfilling Westfield. It has created a problem for Meren, but she should have taken action on that a year ago.
I would feel sorry for South Lakes except they are unwilling to smell the coffee and get rid of IB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire Walney area should be moved to Westfield. Brookfield should be a 50% split feeder. The Chantilly Mews kids should be moved back to CHS. The rest of Bull Run should be moved to Westfield. That would give Westfield around 2300-2400 students.

What would that do to Centreville? If people are worried about what Westfield can offer with 2100 kids they should ask what Centreville could offer with 1800 kids.

The bigger problem here is that they should have taken a harder look at the Oakton boundaries. When you open Skyview but leave Oakton with over 2700 kids you are ensuring some other schools serving western Fairfax are going to shrink drastically.

Instead they followed their typical approach of saying they want to move as few kids as possible. But when their starting point is moving over 1000 kids out of Westfield to populate Skyview, that approach no longer makes sense.

These people screw everything up, over and over again. And they pay themselves on the back for doing it.

There is no parallel here. Whether or not kids from the Oakton boundary were moved to Skyview or not has nothing to do with the movement of students out of Westfield.

You are missing the point completely and likely intentionally.

We understand. You got what you wanted at Oakton, at least for now. And it helps ensure that some other school emerges from this far weaker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire Walney area should be moved to Westfield. Brookfield should be a 50% split feeder. The Chantilly Mews kids should be moved back to CHS. The rest of Bull Run should be moved to Westfield. That would give Westfield around 2300-2400 students.

What would that do to Centreville? If people are worried about what Westfield can offer with 2100 kids they should ask what Centreville could offer with 1800 kids.

The bigger problem here is that they should have taken a harder look at the Oakton boundaries. When you open Skyview but leave Oakton with over 2700 kids you are ensuring some other schools serving western Fairfax are going to shrink drastically.

Instead they followed their typical approach of saying they want to move as few kids as possible. But when their starting point is moving over 1000 kids out of Westfield to populate Skyview, that approach no longer makes sense.

These people screw everything up, over and over again. And they pay themselves on the back for doing it.

Centreville is already a very small school. I think they have around 2100 students right now, and that's overcrowded. I don't think losing half of Bull Run would make much difference.

It would actually bring them into FCPS's "ideal capacity" zone. The capacity is only 1943 students.

And yet there was and perhaps still is a plan to expand Centreville to 3000.

If you think it’s the natural order of things to leave CVHS with 1943 or fewer seats you have to ask why we bothered to expand Oakton so much, or why it would be a problem for Westfield to have 2150 kids but OK for Centreville to have hundreds fewer.

People here are so blatantly transparent in advocating for changes that benefit their schools to the detriment of others.