Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread

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Anonymous wrote:The simple fact is that a woman came forward with an allegation of a sexual assault, which is not proof in itself.

Sworn testimony is a form of proof. Sworn testimony of a single witness can be and has been the basis of criminal convictions.

/s/A Lawyer.

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Anonymous wrote:What I don't get about people who claim this is some democratic conspiracy... how would they decide who draws the short stick to be one of the handful of women who makes an accusation and has to take the barrage of criticism and loss of privacy for the rest of their lives?

Only thing I can imagine would motivate a woman to cause such turmoil for herself and her family is seeking justice and exposing the truth

Let me introduce you to the radical notion that some women like attention and especially like being the “brave” savior who will take down the Trump agenda. It’s really not that hard to fathom. Especially with all the rhetoric about this nomination being the end of Roe v. Wade and onset of Gillead.

These were not women with nothing to lose.

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Lol. You have no idea how much he did or didn’t drink. This whole thing is bullshit. He’s qualified and will be confirmed.

can't believe you're a real person

I am and a woman and a Democrat who voted for Hillary. Also a lawyer. This campaign is transparently political and the allegations are drafted to be vague guilt-by-association nonsense with timing that is ridiculously and transparently politically-motivated. It’s a campaign to discredit him based on him being at parties where bad things may have happened. You are a sheep and a part of the brainless mob for believing this stuff.

Thank you. It is ludicrous.
So, what is her evidence? Dates? Witnesses? Proof?

It hasn't even hit the major news sites yet and you're discounting it because additional information hasn't been presented? I think it's pretty clear that you've already decided what you will and will not believe regardless of what is said.

The affidavit is online. What should I be waiting for? You don’t think waiting for literally the day before he testifies shows how politically motivated this campaign is? Sorry, the man was nominated long ago and has been sitting on the bench of an important court for years. This is total bullshit.

Where you just as upset about the GOP withholding 90% of his written documents? Or that they released 56,000 pages one day before the senate judiciary hearings?

Lol, really moving the goal posts aren’t we? Do you know how to argue? Do you understand logic? They released an unprecedented amount of documents. Kavanaugh has a long record so, yes, a lot of the documents were reasonably subject to the objection that they were protected by executive privilege. Once again, I’m a lawyer. The GOP objection was reasonable.

Sure, they released an unprecedented amount of documemts. But they also withheld an unprecedented amount of documents. And you may think it's reasonable, but the members on the SJC, who were also lawyers, do not.

And the one moving the goalposts is you.

Your logic:

Avenatti and Dr. Ford coming forward at the last minute?

Bullshit.
GOP releasing 56,000 pages at the last minute? T

Totally reasonable!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of very nervous people who grew up in Montgomery County. This new person is making it sound like all the boys were gang rapists.

Could that be part of why we have the suicides of boys in MC public schools?

[Anonymous]

What's wrong with you. Lets us go with your argument. Based on statements by multiple people Kavanaugh there are possibility that

1. Kavanaugh is totally innocent
2. Kavanaugh is complicit to gang-rape, sexual assault and attempted rape, if not rapist worse.

There is no harm in denying the SCJ position to Kavanaugh, even if 1 is true, because as a country we have denied many eminent judges the same position for various reasons. The country does not owe him/Trump/GOP a SC position.

However, if there is any truth to 2, it would do enormous damage to the SC, along with enromous damage every girl (and boy) who might be feeling scared to report horrible incidences against powerful people.

There is a middle ground too, if the party in power is willing. If they want to they can open a FBI investigation to get to the borrom of these allegations by forcing everyone named in news report, testimony and statements to provide interview under oath. That way we do not sit a very tainted person on SC and yet do not refuse him a SC seat based on "mere" allegations.

This is a frightening thought - that there is “no harm” in denying this person a SCOTUS seat if he is innocent.
So, we are OK with any accusation - with no real evidence - to cause any person to lose an opportunity to which that person is eminently qualified?
You are ok with mere accusations to ruin a person’s life? Because, that is exactly what is happening here.

The truth is.... if these people were REALLY interested in FBI investigations, they could have gone about doing so in the proper way. They could have brought their claims forward, when this nominee was announced, presented their claims to the committee and had the FBI investigate as part of their background investigation. But, that was not the goal here. The goal was to present allegations, after the hearings were done, to delay and attempt to derail this process.
I can predict what would happen with an FBI investigation - they would find no evidence to support or deny the claims made. Because there is none. They would collect statements, present them to the committee, and we would be exactly where we are now. Except months down the road because the DEMOCRATS have chosen to play games and not follow regular procedure.

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Anonymous wrote:So did this girl say why she went to parties with these guys who gang raped girls and decided to continue partying with them?

Anyone???

The Senate should call her to testify and then Orrin Hatch can ask her.

Don’t you know? Women are perpetual victims who have zero responsibility for their own actions. We are basically scared infants who cannot handle the big scary world.

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Anonymous wrote:So did this girl say why she went to parties with these guys who gang raped girls and decided to continue partying with them?

Because she was a teenager? Were you ever a teenager?

In answer to your question, no, the affidavit doesn't address that question.

Yes, I was a teenager and if I saw guys gang raping a girl there's no way in hell I would choose to go to parties with them.

There you go. You would make different choices than she did. Does that make her a liar, or an idiot, or just a different person than you?

Oh come on, your assertion is insane. No woman in her right mind would continue to hang out and go to parties with guys whom she believed participated in gang rape.

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Anonymous wrote:So did this girl say why she went to parties with these guys who gang raped girls and decided to continue partying with them?

Anyone???

The Senate should call her to testify and then Orrin Hatch can ask her.

Don’t you know? Women are perpetual victims who have zero responsibility for their own actions. We are basically scared infants who cannot handle the big scary world.

Sounds like you should #walkaway!!!

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Anonymous wrote:So did this girl say why she went to parties with these guys who gang raped girls and decided to continue partying with them?

Anyone???

Oh, I see what you mean. It is the GIRLS fault for having the audacity to go to a party where boys did illegal things so she is really to be blamed. Right?

Not the boys who did the illegal things, but rather the girls who were around when teh illegal things happened. Yeah, let's blame them for even being there.

Jesus.

Should i never take the subway because muggings happen there? IF i get mugged is that MY fault for being the women who dared to take public transportation knowing i could get mugged? The mugger? Nope, not his fault at all. How dare I carry a purse and flaunt that to him.

[Anonymous]

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This is a frightening thought - that there is “no harm” in denying this person a SCOTUS seat if he is innocent.
So, we are OK with any accusation - with no real evidence - to cause any person to lose an opportunity to which that person is eminently qualified?
You are ok with mere accusations to ruin a person’s life? Because, that is exactly what is happening here.

I get what you're saying, but if this is the standard playbook for democrats - why don't they use it every time?

Why not Gorsuch? Why not every single GOP senate candidate? Why not Mike Pence?

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Lol. You have no idea how much he did or didn’t drink. This whole thing is bullshit. He’s qualified and will be confirmed.

can't believe you're a real person

I am and a woman and a Democrat who voted for Hillary. Also a lawyer. This campaign is transparently political and the allegations are drafted to be vague guilt-by-association nonsense with timing that is ridiculously and transparently politically-motivated. It’s a campaign to discredit him based on him being at parties where bad things may have happened. You are a sheep and a part of the brainless mob for believing this stuff.

sorry, don't believe you

LMAO. Go ask Jeff to check my IP. I posted tons in favor of Hillary. Is it really so unbelievable that I can think for my damn self and see that this campaign is vague and baseless. I’m a woman who can think for herself, thank you very much. I read and think critically and can see this latest #metoo campaign for what it is.

This poster asked other posters to ask me to check the poster's IP address. Two posters asked. So I checked and this poster has claimed to be a Hillary supporter in the past. However, the poster also claims to have been impressed by the Jordan Peterson videos and to have "seen the light" as a result. The poster also support the "Walk Away" movement which doesn't really exist.

It figures she'd support Jordan Peterson, the guy who supports marital rape.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So did this girl say why she went to parties with these guys who gang raped girls and decided to continue partying with them?

Because she was a teenager? Were you ever a teenager?

In answer to your question, no, the affidavit doesn't address that question.

Yes, I was a teenager and if I saw guys gang raping a girl there's no way in hell I would choose to go to parties with them.

There you go. You would make different choices than she did. Does that make her a liar, or an idiot, or just a different person than you?

She didn't say she went to parties with them, but that they were at some of the same parties she went to. As why she continued to party, when you're young and you're with your girl friends, you think it can't happen to you. I'm very sad for all of these young women.

[jsteele]

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Anonymous wrote:So did this girl say why she went to parties with these guys who gang raped girls and decided to continue partying with them?

Because she was a teenager? Were you ever a teenager?

In answer to your question, no, the affidavit doesn't address that question.

Yes, I was a teenager and if I saw guys gang raping a girl there's no way in hell I would choose to go to parties with them.

There you go. You would make different choices than she did. Does that make her a liar, or an idiot, or just a different person than you?

Oh come on, your assertion is insane. No woman in her right mind would continue to hang out and go to parties with guys whom she believed participated in gang rape.

They would if they thought it was the victim's fault for making poor choices and that it wouldn't happen to them because they would make better choices (e.g. avoid the punch).

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

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Lol. You have no idea how much he did or didn’t drink. This whole thing is bullshit. He’s qualified and will be confirmed.

can't believe you're a real person

I am and a woman and a Democrat who voted for Hillary. Also a lawyer. This campaign is transparently political and the allegations are drafted to be vague guilt-by-association nonsense with timing that is ridiculously and transparently politically-motivated. It’s a campaign to discredit him based on him being at parties where bad things may have happened. You are a sheep and a part of the brainless mob for believing this stuff.

sorry, don't believe you

LMAO. Go ask Jeff to check my IP. I posted tons in favor of Hillary. Is it really so unbelievable that I can think for my damn self and see that this campaign is vague and baseless. I’m a woman who can think for herself, thank you very much. I read and think critically and can see this latest #metoo campaign for what it is.

This poster asked other posters to ask me to check the poster's IP address. Two posters asked. So I checked and this poster has claimed to be a Hillary supporter in the past. However, the poster also claims to have been impressed by the Jordan Peterson videos and to have "seen the light" as a result. The poster also support the "Walk Away" movement which doesn't really exist.

Are you sure walk away doesn’t exist? I heard the guy who started it on a podcast the other day

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Anonymous wrote:So did this girl say why she went to parties with these guys who gang raped girls and decided to continue partying with them?

Because she was a teenager? Were you ever a teenager?

In answer to your question, no, the affidavit doesn't address that question.

Yes, I was a teenager and if I saw guys gang raping a girl there's no way in hell I would choose to go to parties with them.

There you go. You would make different choices than she did. Does that make her a liar, or an idiot, or just a different person than you?

Oh come on, your assertion is insane. No woman in her right mind would continue to hang out and go to parties with guys whom she believed participated in gang rape.

If they're taught that guys running trains on drunk girls is just one of those things that happens, they might. If, for example, someone who participated in these gang rapes was appointed to the Supreme Court, they might doubt their sense that such people are to be shunned.