Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Anonymous wrote:Navy is screwed. Our best bet is to advocate with Crossfield.

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If crazy Navy mom is worried about being moved, wouldn't their best bet be to push for Crossfield to be moved now to make more room at Oakton for that future development that's coming instead? I don't think they really thought this through.

You would think that Navy and Waples parents would be pushing to move Crossfield now - Navy could still be moved to Western in the future and Waples is under threat of being moved to Fairfax.

One thing folks lose sight of in all the redistricting is FCPS’s desire to keep high performers spread across all schools to help with ratings. It’s why the last redistricting in 2008 pulled fox mill to SLHS. It worked. Proposed Western neighborhoods have a high performing student population. It’s why I don’t think Waples or Navy would get pulled out of Oakton to Western. Without crossfield, navy and waples, the academic ratings would fall fast at Oakton.

The SLHS redistricting in 2008 was the swan song for any overt redistricting to balance demographics. Everything since then typically increased the disparities within FCPS, the boundary changes involving Annandale HS and then moving part of Lewis HS to West Springfield HS being the prime examples.

Oakton is aming the top 10 schools in Virginia. FCPS won’t play around too much with its demographics. They know exactly what they are doing.

That didn't stop them from moving kids in 2008.

They were strategic in that move. Keeping enough at Oakton to maintain its status while moving enough to SLHS to uplift its status.

[Anonymous]

Email from Western principal said presentation is posted online. I can’t find it, anyone know where it is?

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Anonymous wrote:Email from Western principal said presentation is posted online. I can’t find it, anyone know where it is?

Youtube has the presentation that was given to Carson 8th graders.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Navy is screwed. Our best bet is to advocate with Crossfield.

+1

If crazy Navy mom is worried about being moved, wouldn't their best bet be to push for Crossfield to be moved now to make more room at Oakton for that future development that's coming instead? I don't think they really thought this through.

You would think that Navy and Waples parents would be pushing to move Crossfield now - Navy could still be moved to Western in the future and Waples is under threat of being moved to Fairfax.

One thing folks lose sight of in all the redistricting is FCPS’s desire to keep high performers spread across all schools to help with ratings. It’s why the last redistricting in 2008 pulled fox mill to SLHS. It worked. Proposed Western neighborhoods have a high performing student population. It’s why I don’t think Waples or Navy would get pulled out of Oakton to Western. Without crossfield, navy and waples, the academic ratings would fall fast at Oakton.

The SLHS redistricting in 2008 was the swan song for any overt redistricting to balance demographics. Everything since then typically increased the disparities within FCPS, the boundary changes involving Annandale HS and then moving part of Lewis HS to West Springfield HS being the prime examples.

but the OneFairfax! (tm) equity proposition!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Navy is screwed. Our best bet is to advocate with Crossfield.

+1

If crazy Navy mom is worried about being moved, wouldn't their best bet be to push for Crossfield to be moved now to make more room at Oakton for that future development that's coming instead? I don't think they really thought this through.

You would think that Navy and Waples parents would be pushing to move Crossfield now - Navy could still be moved to Western in the future and Waples is under threat of being moved to Fairfax.

One thing folks lose sight of in all the redistricting is FCPS’s desire to keep high performers spread across all schools to help with ratings. It’s why the last redistricting in 2008 pulled fox mill to SLHS. It worked. Proposed Western neighborhoods have a high performing student population. It’s why I don’t think Waples or Navy would get pulled out of Oakton to Western. Without crossfield, navy and waples, the academic ratings would fall fast at Oakton.

The SLHS redistricting in 2008 was the swan song for any overt redistricting to balance demographics. Everything since then typically increased the disparities within FCPS, the boundary changes involving Annandale HS and then moving part of Lewis HS to West Springfield HS being the prime examples.

Oakton is aming the top 10 schools in Virginia. FCPS won’t play around too much with its demographics. They know exactly what they are doing.

That didn't stop them from moving kids in 2008.

They were strategic in that move. Keeping enough at Oakton to maintain its status while moving enough to SLHS to uplift its status.

Actually, no. They did it that way because Kathy Smith was Sully district. Almost all of the students at Crossfield are in Sully district. Not sure about the Folkestone area, but Fox Mill Woods is in Reston. Stu Gibson was Hunter Mill. I'm pretty sure that everyone redistricted to South Lakes lived in Hunter Mill. There may have been a slight adjustment in the magisterial districts since then, but i think that is correct.

Noise was made at the time about Dranesville, but Janie didn't have it. There may have been a small area that is now Hunter Mill that was moved.
I think the Sully portion of Floris remained at Westfield.

Not sure they will still give the same respect to the district SB member as they did in the past, but they certainly did then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Navy is screwed. Our best bet is to advocate with Crossfield.

+1

If crazy Navy mom is worried about being moved, wouldn't their best bet be to push for Crossfield to be moved now to make more room at Oakton for that future development that's coming instead? I don't think they really thought this through.

You would think that Navy and Waples parents would be pushing to move Crossfield now - Navy could still be moved to Western in the future and Waples is under threat of being moved to Fairfax.

One thing folks lose sight of in all the redistricting is FCPS’s desire to keep high performers spread across all schools to help with ratings. It’s why the last redistricting in 2008 pulled fox mill to SLHS. It worked. Proposed Western neighborhoods have a high performing student population. It’s why I don’t think Waples or Navy would get pulled out of Oakton to Western. Without crossfield, navy and waples, the academic ratings would fall fast at Oakton.

The SLHS redistricting in 2008 was the swan song for any overt redistricting to balance demographics. Everything since then typically increased the disparities within FCPS, the boundary changes involving Annandale HS and then moving part of Lewis HS to West Springfield HS being the prime examples.

Oakton is aming the top 10 schools in Virginia. FCPS won’t play around too much with its demographics. They know exactly what they are doing.

That didn't stop them from moving kids in 2008.

They were strategic in that move. Keeping enough at Oakton to maintain its status while moving enough to SLHS to uplift its status.

Actually, no. They did it that way because Kathy Smith was Sully district. Almost all of the students at Crossfield are in Sully district. Not sure about the Folkestone area, but Fox Mill Woods is in Reston. Stu Gibson was Hunter Mill. I'm pretty sure that everyone redistricted to South Lakes lived in Hunter Mill. There may have been a slight adjustment in the magisterial districts since then, but i think that is correct.

Noise was made at the time about Dranesville, but Janie didn't have it. There may have been a small area that is now Hunter Mill that was moved.
I think the Sully portion of Floris remained at Westfield.

Not sure they will still give the same respect to the district SB member as they did in the past, but they certainly did then.

I think the opinions of the affected district School Board members tend to matter more when it comes to boundary changes.

From what I’ve seen, Meren and Dixit usually listen to the loudest voice of their constituents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Navy is screwed. Our best bet is to advocate with Crossfield.

+1

If crazy Navy mom is worried about being moved, wouldn't their best bet be to push for Crossfield to be moved now to make more room at Oakton for that future development that's coming instead? I don't think they really thought this through.

You would think that Navy and Waples parents would be pushing to move Crossfield now - Navy could still be moved to Western in the future and Waples is under threat of being moved to Fairfax.

One thing folks lose sight of in all the redistricting is FCPS’s desire to keep high performers spread across all schools to help with ratings. It’s why the last redistricting in 2008 pulled fox mill to SLHS. It worked. Proposed Western neighborhoods have a high performing student population. It’s why I don’t think Waples or Navy would get pulled out of Oakton to Western. Without crossfield, navy and waples, the academic ratings would fall fast at Oakton.

The SLHS redistricting in 2008 was the swan song for any overt redistricting to balance demographics. Everything since then typically increased the disparities within FCPS, the boundary changes involving Annandale HS and then moving part of Lewis HS to West Springfield HS being the prime examples.

Oakton is aming the top 10 schools in Virginia. FCPS won’t play around too much with its demographics. They know exactly what they are doing.

That didn't stop them from moving kids in 2008.

They were strategic in that move. Keeping enough at Oakton to maintain its status while moving enough to SLHS to uplift its status.

Actually, no. They did it that way because Kathy Smith was Sully district. Almost all of the students at Crossfield are in Sully district. Not sure about the Folkestone area, but Fox Mill Woods is in Reston. Stu Gibson was Hunter Mill. I'm pretty sure that everyone redistricted to South Lakes lived in Hunter Mill. There may have been a slight adjustment in the magisterial districts since then, but i think that is correct.

Noise was made at the time about Dranesville, but Janie didn't have it. There may have been a small area that is now Hunter Mill that was moved.
I think the Sully portion of Floris remained at Westfield.

Not sure they will still give the same respect to the district SB member as they did in the past, but they certainly did then.

No it's split 50/50 between Hunters Mill and Sully.

[Anonymous]

Western HS Presentation at 9AM today (in order of how I heard things)

1) AP/DE school: all the regular 9th and 10th grade classes will be offered but less clear on electives and foreign languages. They said that they have been hearing from the Japanese and Korean Immersion programs and want to include those languages

Course selection will happen in January, they will have counselors ready to work with the kids. Courses will be offered based on the number of kids opting in. Since there will be fewer kids (1,000 compared to 2,000) there might be fewer electives.

Some discussion about sharing classes between Carson and Western

As more classes join the school, there will be more programs because there will be more kids to participate and take classes.

They expect the have Spanish, French, Japanese, and Korean at the school. (Posted int he questions screen)

They will have the standard 9th and 10th grade courses, including the AP classes. 11th grade DE will be available.

2) Special Paths: They hope to have certifications and working with industry to establish internships and learning opportunities.

Aerospace Science
AI
Advanced Tech and Innovation

3) No VHSL sports in the first year

They cannot offer any VHSL sports and allow students to play with their original HS so there will be no VHSL sports in the first year. They think there might be VHSL sports in the second year but they will be established in the third year.

Programs that are not VHSL will be offered at the school, so bands, chorus, theatre and the like

There will be an activities bus from the new HS to old HS for sports, it will leave a few minutes early to get kids to the other school in time for practice and the like. Transportation home from the sport HS will be provided

4) Only in-boundary students will have transportation

Boundaries will be determined int he spring.

They will have a process for selecting students if there are more then 500 kids opting in. In Boundary kids first, then kids who were considered for in boundary (so Fox Mill, Crossfield using those examples only because they are the two that are discussed a lot here not because of anything said in the meeting)

Bussing provided for kids opting out of the new HS and attending the old school

They discussed exception to ride for kids to be placed on a bus nearby if they are out of boundary.

5) Opting In/Out is a 4 year decision. If you choose Western or your old school, that is your school. Any movement would need to be a pupil placement situation

[Anonymous]

What an overly complicated mess. And the hypocrisy of all these “activities” bus routes while telling other redistricted families that they are on their own when it comes to transportation is staggering.

These people have no business running FCPS or serving on the school board. Complete and utter morons.

[Anonymous]

So if your an athlete you are probably staying at your old school. Sounds like VHSL sports will be slow to start at this school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So if your an athlete you are probably staying at your old school. Sounds like VHSL sports will be slow to start at this school.

VHSL will be there in the second or third year. Part of it is the fields and part of it is that as soon as they offer one, they cannot allow kids to go to other schools for sports not offered. And that makes sense, I get it. My kid is not a super serious athlete so he doesn’t care about that element all that much.

They discussed busses to the 5 HS that kids could participate in sports at so kids can opt in and then play their sport at a different school, if they chose that. I would guess most kids interested in sports will attend the other school. But I could see a kid who doesn’t think they will make or get much playing time on a varsity team might choose the new school and then play there as a Junior and Senior where they might have a better chance of making the team. SLHS has won the state championship the last two years, I could see a kid looking at that and thinking they stand a better chance at Western.

[Anonymous]

Fox Mill has Japanse immersion program. It’s good to hear that the Western will offer Japanese.

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Anonymous wrote:Fox Mill has Japanse immersion program. It’s good to hear that the Western will offer Japanese.

They specifically said that they were making sure that the language immersion programs were supported, both Japanese and Korean. The Korean surprised me because none of the ES transferring in offer Korean. Korean is at Powell and Halley, neither school is slated to attend the new school. I knew about the Japanese at Fox Mill and Carson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Navy is screwed. Our best bet is to advocate with Crossfield.

+1

If crazy Navy mom is worried about being moved, wouldn't their best bet be to push for Crossfield to be moved now to make more room at Oakton for that future development that's coming instead? I don't think they really thought this through.

You would think that Navy and Waples parents would be pushing to move Crossfield now - Navy could still be moved to Western in the future and Waples is under threat of being moved to Fairfax.

One thing folks lose sight of in all the redistricting is FCPS’s desire to keep high performers spread across all schools to help with ratings. It’s why the last redistricting in 2008 pulled fox mill to SLHS. It worked. Proposed Western neighborhoods have a high performing student population. It’s why I don’t think Waples or Navy would get pulled out of Oakton to Western. Without crossfield, navy and waples, the academic ratings would fall fast at Oakton.

The SLHS redistricting in 2008 was the swan song for any overt redistricting to balance demographics. Everything since then typically increased the disparities within FCPS, the boundary changes involving Annandale HS and then moving part of Lewis HS to West Springfield HS being the prime examples.

Oakton is aming the top 10 schools in Virginia. FCPS won’t play around too much with its demographics. They know exactly what they are doing.

That didn't stop them from moving kids in 2008.

They were strategic in that move. Keeping enough at Oakton to maintain its status while moving enough to SLHS to uplift its status.

Actually, no. They did it that way because Kathy Smith was Sully district. Almost all of the students at Crossfield are in Sully district. Not sure about the Folkestone area, but Fox Mill Woods is in Reston. Stu Gibson was Hunter Mill. I'm pretty sure that everyone redistricted to South Lakes lived in Hunter Mill. There may have been a slight adjustment in the magisterial districts since then, but i think that is correct.

Noise was made at the time about Dranesville, but Janie didn't have it. There may have been a small area that is now Hunter Mill that was moved.
I think the Sully portion of Floris remained at Westfield.

Not sure they will still give the same respect to the district SB member as they did in the past, but they certainly did then.

No it's split 50/50 between Hunters Mill and Sully.

Wrong. Very few in Crossfield are in Hunter Mill. No where near 50/50.
Hunter Mill https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/huntermill_0.pdfdistrict:

Crossfield boundary:
https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/boundary-maps/Crossfield_ES_1.pdf

[Anonymous]

I find it very amusing that the speakers last night from Crossfield about staying at Oakton complained about the traffic to the new high school--meanwhile the kids go to Carson. And, the mom who was upset because her younger child could not ride to school with her older one.

The sports is an issue--but it is not limited to Crossfield kids.

I also found it amusing that the dad who spoke wants the school to be named after his choice of names-but, meanwhile he wants his kids to stay at Oakton.