Thrive Montgomery 2050

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They passed it.

Amid a chorus of boos.

This county is truly run by a tiny circle of plutocrats.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/10/25/county-council-unanimously-approves-thrive-montgomery-2050-plan/

Unbelievable. I hope this is challenged and sued.

I wonder if neighborhoods can start protecting themselves via legally binding HOAs, or through the creation of new historic districts where eligible...?

The most effective way to protect yourself from Montgomery County is incorporation as a city with its own planning permission. Problem is that the process to do so requires support of the Council and then support from the Assembly. In the 80’s these things were still possible, but not any more.

Does that mean that someplace like Rockville (with its own planning department as pointed out in another post) would be exempt from this nonsense?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They passed it.

Amid a chorus of boos.

This county is truly run by a tiny circle of plutocrats.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/10/25/county-council-unanimously-approves-thrive-montgomery-2050-plan/

Unbelievable. I hope this is challenged and sued.

I wonder if neighborhoods can start protecting themselves via legally binding HOAs, or through the creation of new historic districts where eligible...?

The most effective way to protect yourself from Montgomery County is incorporation as a city with its own planning permission. Problem is that the process to do so requires support of the Council and then support from the Assembly. In the 80’s these things were still possible, but not any more.

Does that mean that someplace like Rockville (with its own planning department as pointed out in another post) would be exempt from this nonsense?

Yes, R'ville is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They passed it.

Amid a chorus of boos.

This county is truly run by a tiny circle of plutocrats.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/10/25/county-council-unanimously-approves-thrive-montgomery-2050-plan/

Unbelievable. I hope this is challenged and sued.

I wonder if neighborhoods can start protecting themselves via legally binding HOAs, or through the creation of new historic districts where eligible...?

The most effective way to protect yourself from Montgomery County is incorporation as a city with its own planning permission. Problem is that the process to do so requires support of the Council and then support from the Assembly. In the 80’s these things were still possible, but not any more.

Does that mean that someplace like Rockville (with its own planning department as pointed out in another post) would be exempt from this nonsense?

Yes. Rockville, Gaithersburg and Takoma Park are exempt from Thrive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They passed it.

Amid a chorus of boos.

This county is truly run by a tiny circle of plutocrats.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/10/25/county-council-unanimously-approves-thrive-montgomery-2050-plan/

Unbelievable. I hope this is challenged and sued.

I wonder if neighborhoods can start protecting themselves via legally binding HOAs, or through the creation of new historic districts where eligible...?

The most effective way to protect yourself from Montgomery County is incorporation as a city with its own planning permission. Problem is that the process to do so requires support of the Council and then support from the Assembly. In the 80’s these things were still possible, but not any more.

Does that mean that someplace like Rockville (with its own planning department as pointed out in another post) would be exempt from this nonsense?

Yes. Rockville, Gaithersburg and Takoma Park are exempt from Thrive.

Poolesville too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They passed it.

Amid a chorus of boos.

This county is truly run by a tiny circle of plutocrats.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/10/25/county-council-unanimously-approves-thrive-montgomery-2050-plan/

Unbelievable. I hope this is challenged and sued.

I wonder if neighborhoods can start protecting themselves via legally binding HOAs, or through the creation of new historic districts where eligible...?

The most effective way to protect yourself from Montgomery County is incorporation as a city with its own planning permission. Problem is that the process to do so requires support of the Council and then support from the Assembly. In the 80’s these things were still possible, but not any more.

Does that mean that someplace like Rockville (with its own planning department as pointed out in another post) would be exempt from this nonsense?

Yes. Rockville, Gaithersburg and Takoma Park are exempt from Thrive.

Poolesville too.

And Laytonsville. It’s mostly Silver Spring getting hosed. Developers want those modest 1940-1950 houses destroyed and the corrupt council agrees.

[Anonymous]

What about Kensington. Albornoz lives in Parkwood, is his neighborhood exempt?

[Anonymous]

Could a new board repeal this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They passed it.

Amid a chorus of boos.

This county is truly run by a tiny circle of plutocrats.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/10/25/county-council-unanimously-approves-thrive-montgomery-2050-plan/

Unbelievable. I hope this is challenged and sued.

I wonder if neighborhoods can start protecting themselves via legally binding HOAs, or through the creation of new historic districts where eligible...?

The most effective way to protect yourself from Montgomery County is incorporation as a city with its own planning permission. Problem is that the process to do so requires support of the Council and then support from the Assembly. In the 80’s these things were still possible, but not any more.

Does that mean that someplace like Rockville (with its own planning department as pointed out in another post) would be exempt from this nonsense?

Yes. Rockville, Gaithersburg and Takoma Park are exempt from Thrive.

Poolesville too.

And Laytonsville. It’s mostly Silver Spring getting hosed. Developers want those modest 1940-1950 houses destroyed and the corrupt council agrees.

Silver Spring, Chevy Chase and Bethesda. Agree that Silver Spring has the most potential because it has a lot of neighborhoods with depreciated small, depreciated housing stock on large lots. However I disagree that they will tear them down. I think you will see a lot of fly-by-night contractors doing multi-family additions to existing structures for rentals. You see this a lot in university towns; houses with multiple additions sub-divided into many apartments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about Kensington. Albornoz lives in Parkwood, is his neighborhood exempt?

Kensington does not have its own independent planning permission. However, a portion of Kensington is historically protected. Same with Garrett Park. Downtown Kensington is considerd a small growth center in Thrive, but Connecticut is a growth corridor. So neighborhoods like Chevy Chase View could see changes but not Parkwood. Like Garrett Park, a transit density overlay would not apply to Kensington because the area around the train station is historically protected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about Kensington. Albornoz lives in Parkwood, is his neighborhood exempt?

Kensington does not have its own independent planning permission. However, a portion of Kensington is historically protected. Same with Garrett Park. Downtown Kensington is considerd a small growth center in Thrive, but Connecticut is a growth corridor. So neighborhoods like Chevy Chase View could see changes but not Parkwood. Like Garrett Park, a transit density overlay would not apply to Kensington because the area around the train station is historically protected.

It really disgusts me that Albornoz has no chance of getting a quadplex next door to his big, beautiful house. The council is completely corrupt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about Kensington. Albornoz lives in Parkwood, is his neighborhood exempt?

Kensington does not have its own independent planning permission. However, a portion of Kensington is historically protected. Same with Garrett Park. Downtown Kensington is considerd a small growth center in Thrive, but Connecticut is a growth corridor. So neighborhoods like Chevy Chase View could see changes but not Parkwood. Like Garrett Park, a transit density overlay would not apply to Kensington because the area around the train station is historically protected.

It really disgusts me that Albornoz has no chance of getting a quadplex next door to his big, beautiful house. The council is completely corrupt.

His house would be totally protected. His neighbors on Connecticut could get up-zoned though.

Most likely areas to get upzoned first would be within a mile adjacent red and purple line stops and edge neighborhoods near the large growth centers, e.g. downtown Bethesda, downtown Silver Spring, Wheaton, and White Flint. It is interesting how these decisions have been made. For example, Old Georgetown Rd was not a growth corridor, despite connecting downtown Bethesda to Pike and Rose, but Randolph Rd and University Blvd are. Kind of gives the game away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about Kensington. Albornoz lives in Parkwood, is his neighborhood exempt?

Kensington does not have its own independent planning permission. However, a portion of Kensington is historically protected. Same with Garrett Park. Downtown Kensington is considerd a small growth center in Thrive, but Connecticut is a growth corridor. So neighborhoods like Chevy Chase View could see changes but not Parkwood. Like Garrett Park, a transit density overlay would not apply to Kensington because the area around the train station is historically protected.

It really disgusts me that Albornoz has no chance of getting a quadplex next door to his big, beautiful house. The council is completely corrupt.

His house would be totally protected. His neighbors on Connecticut could get up-zoned though.

Most likely areas to get upzoned first would be within a mile adjacent red and purple line stops and edge neighborhoods near the large growth centers, e.g. downtown Bethesda, downtown Silver Spring, Wheaton, and White Flint. It is interesting how these decisions have been made. For example, Old Georgetown Rd was not a growth corridor, despite connecting downtown Bethesda to Pike and Rose, but Randolph Rd and University Blvd are. Kind of gives the game away.

Whatever happened with Friedson trying to protect all of River Road? I live in District 1 and he's our rep but never did anything for his inside the Beltway constituents, only for his Potomac friends. I know our neighborhood will be upzoned immediately. It ticks me off since our lots are so small. I'm sure they'll concrete in the front yard for parking even after all this talk about walkability.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about Kensington. Albornoz lives in Parkwood, is his neighborhood exempt?

Kensington does not have its own independent planning permission. However, a portion of Kensington is historically protected. Same with Garrett Park. Downtown Kensington is considerd a small growth center in Thrive, but Connecticut is a growth corridor. So neighborhoods like Chevy Chase View could see changes but not Parkwood. Like Garrett Park, a transit density overlay would not apply to Kensington because the area around the train station is historically protected.

It really disgusts me that Albornoz has no chance of getting a quadplex next door to his big, beautiful house. The council is completely corrupt.

His house would be totally protected. His neighbors on Connecticut could get up-zoned though.

Most likely areas to get upzoned first would be within a mile adjacent red and purple line stops and edge neighborhoods near the large growth centers, e.g. downtown Bethesda, downtown Silver Spring, Wheaton, and White Flint. It is interesting how these decisions have been made. For example, Old Georgetown Rd was not a growth corridor, despite connecting downtown Bethesda to Pike and Rose, but Randolph Rd and University Blvd are. Kind of gives the game away.

Whatever happened with Friedson trying to protect all of River Road? I live in District 1 and he's our rep but never did anything for his inside the Beltway constituents, only for his Potomac friends. I know our neighborhood will be upzoned immediately. It ticks me off since our lots are so small. I'm sure they'll concrete in the front yard for parking even after all this talk about walkability.

Friedson is a manchild that lacks leadership qualities and as a result is incapable of representing his constituents. Seems to prefer spending his time sucking up to Takoma Park and Silver Spring residents. Just totally and completely ineffectual and unfortunately we are probably stuck with him for 8 more years because his gravy train, Franchot, won’t be governor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about Kensington. Albornoz lives in Parkwood, is his neighborhood exempt?

Kensington does not have its own independent planning permission. However, a portion of Kensington is historically protected. Same with Garrett Park. Downtown Kensington is considerd a small growth center in Thrive, but Connecticut is a growth corridor. So neighborhoods like Chevy Chase View could see changes but not Parkwood. Like Garrett Park, a transit density overlay would not apply to Kensington because the area around the train station is historically protected.

It really disgusts me that Albornoz has no chance of getting a quadplex next door to his big, beautiful house. The council is completely corrupt.

His house would be totally protected. His neighbors on Connecticut could get up-zoned though.

Most likely areas to get upzoned first would be within a mile adjacent red and purple line stops and edge neighborhoods near the large growth centers, e.g. downtown Bethesda, downtown Silver Spring, Wheaton, and White Flint. It is interesting how these decisions have been made. For example, Old Georgetown Rd was not a growth corridor, despite connecting downtown Bethesda to Pike and Rose, but Randolph Rd and University Blvd are. Kind of gives the game away.

Whatever happened with Friedson trying to protect all of River Road? I live in District 1 and he's our rep but never did anything for his inside the Beltway constituents, only for his Potomac friends. I know our neighborhood will be upzoned immediately. It ticks me off since our lots are so small. I'm sure they'll concrete in the front yard for parking even after all this talk about walkability.

Friedson carried water for Riemer as PHED Vice Chair, only seemingly incapable of winning support from Riemer for just this one thing. And honestly, I think you are right, he probably just doesn’t care about representing people outside his parents neighborhood. It’s pathetic and worse still that he won’t even represent Potomac anymore due to redistricting. I hate to say that I miss Berliner, but I miss Berliner. Friedson needs to grow up and fast.

“In one specific debate, the council split 5-4 on whether to completely eliminate the designation of River Road…

Council Members Craig Rice, Andrew Friedson, Gabe Albornoz and Sidney Katz voted to remove the entire road as a growth corridor. However, Council Members Nancy Navarro, Evan Glass, Tom Hucker Hans Riemer, and Will Jawando voted against the idea, meaning the plan will identify River Road as a growth corridor between Washington, D.C., and the Beltway.”
https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/10/05/designation-of-section-of-river-road-as-a-growth-corridor-among-approved-changes-to-thrive-montgomery-2050/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about Kensington. Albornoz lives in Parkwood, is his neighborhood exempt?

Kensington does not have its own independent planning permission. However, a portion of Kensington is historically protected. Same with Garrett Park. Downtown Kensington is considerd a small growth center in Thrive, but Connecticut is a growth corridor. So neighborhoods like Chevy Chase View could see changes but not Parkwood. Like Garrett Park, a transit density overlay would not apply to Kensington because the area around the train station is historically protected.

It really disgusts me that Albornoz has no chance of getting a quadplex next door to his big, beautiful house. The council is completely corrupt.

His house would be totally protected. His neighbors on Connecticut could get up-zoned though.

Most likely areas to get upzoned first would be within a mile adjacent red and purple line stops and edge neighborhoods near the large growth centers, e.g. downtown Bethesda, downtown Silver Spring, Wheaton, and White Flint. It is interesting how these decisions have been made. For example, Old Georgetown Rd was not a growth corridor, despite connecting downtown Bethesda to Pike and Rose, but Randolph Rd and University Blvd are. Kind of gives the game away.

Whatever happened with Friedson trying to protect all of River Road? I live in District 1 and he's our rep but never did anything for his inside the Beltway constituents, only for his Potomac friends. I know our neighborhood will be upzoned immediately. It ticks me off since our lots are so small. I'm sure they'll concrete in the front yard for parking even after all this talk about walkability.

Friedson is a manchild that lacks leadership qualities and as a result is incapable of representing his constituents. Seems to prefer spending his time sucking up to Takoma Park and Silver Spring residents. Just totally and completely ineffectual and unfortunately we are probably stuck with him for 8 more years because his gravy train, Franchot, won’t be governor.

I totally agree he is a manchild, but he doesn't suck up to Silver Spring residents that's for sure.