Thrive Montgomery 2050

Anonymous
This will be a disaster. I really wish they'd just be honest - it is just a proposal to obtain, raze, and destroy SFHs and neighborhoods with SFHs. It's the progressive dream.

Nevermind the fact that roads won't be able to handle all of the traffic and there are almost zero plans for addressing school capacity. MoCo is on its death bed. The progressives are after your homes and want to tear it down. Nothing like working hard and saving to buy a house only to have the home next to you replaced by a gigantic apartment complex with residents too cheap to pay for parking, so they'll all start parking 200 cars on the street outside your home. This is a utopian nightmare. Hopefully we will be out of the county early enough to sell our home to a sucker who won't be aware of Thrive 2050 plans. Progress means turning the entire county into a concrete jungle like Tokyo, except we all know we will get the crappy dollar store version of Tokyo instead of the high quality real thing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This will be a disaster. I really wish they'd just be honest - it is just a proposal to obtain, raze, and destroy SFHs and neighborhoods with SFHs. It's the progressive dream.

Nevermind the fact that roads won't be able to handle all of the traffic and there are almost zero plans for addressing school capacity. MoCo is on its death bed. The progressives are after your homes and want to tear it down. Nothing like working hard and saving to buy a house only to have the home next to you replaced by a gigantic apartment complex with residents too cheap to pay for parking, so they'll all start parking 200 cars on the street outside your home. This is a utopian nightmare. Hopefully we will be out of the county early enough to sell our home to a sucker who won't be aware of Thrive 2050 plans. Progress means turning the entire county into a concrete jungle like Tokyo, except we all know we will get the crappy dollar store version of Tokyo instead of the high quality real thing.


Can you at least link what you're talking about?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This will be a disaster. I really wish they'd just be honest - it is just a proposal to obtain, raze, and destroy SFHs and neighborhoods with SFHs. It's the progressive dream.

Nevermind the fact that roads won't be able to handle all of the traffic and there are almost zero plans for addressing school capacity. MoCo is on its death bed. The progressives are after your homes and want to tear it down. Nothing like working hard and saving to buy a house only to have the home next to you replaced by a gigantic apartment complex with residents too cheap to pay for parking, so they'll all start parking 200 cars on the street outside your home. This is a utopian nightmare. Hopefully we will be out of the county early enough to sell our home to a sucker who won't be aware of Thrive 2050 plans. Progress means turning the entire county into a concrete jungle like Tokyo, except we all know we will get the crappy dollar store version of Tokyo instead of the high quality real thing.


Can you at least link what you're talking about?


I'm truly shocked at how few MoCo residents know that Thrive 2050 even exists, given the fact that they are coming after all of our homes:

https://montgomeryplanning.org/planning/master-plan-list/general-plans/thrive-montgomery-2050/

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/COUNCIL/Resources/Files/agenda/col/2021/20210617/testimony/testimony50-DonnaSavage.pdf
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This will be a disaster. I really wish they'd just be honest - it is just a proposal to obtain, raze, and destroy SFHs and neighborhoods with SFHs. It's the progressive dream.

Nevermind the fact that roads won't be able to handle all of the traffic and there are almost zero plans for addressing school capacity. MoCo is on its death bed. The progressives are after your homes and want to tear it down. Nothing like working hard and saving to buy a house only to have the home next to you replaced by a gigantic apartment complex with residents too cheap to pay for parking, so they'll all start parking 200 cars on the street outside your home. This is a utopian nightmare. Hopefully we will be out of the county early enough to sell our home to a sucker who won't be aware of Thrive 2050 plans. Progress means turning the entire county into a concrete jungle like Tokyo, except we all know we will get the crappy dollar store version of Tokyo instead of the high quality real thing.


Can you at least link what you're talking about?


I'm truly shocked at how few MoCo residents know that Thrive 2050 even exists, given the fact that they are coming after all of our homes:

https://montgomeryplanning.org/planning/master-plan-list/general-plans/thrive-montgomery-2050/

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/COUNCIL/Resources/Files/agenda/col/2021/20210617/testimony/testimony50-DonnaSavage.pdf


I live in the City of Rockville. MoCo planning doesn't apply to the city. I am very familiar with Rockville's 2040 master plan though.
Anonymous
Why can't we keep our SFHs? If there's nowhere for the poors to live then they can just pitch a tent.

Well, OK I'd call the police and then throw away their stuff but other than that, I see no reason for building new housing.

I mean, come on! I already have a home and don't need or want more. Well, unless I want to buy a vacation home.

Yeesh, communists.
Anonymous
I agree with OP about it being a horrible plan, but you forgot about King Casey's plan to indoctrinate our youth - he wants to include his disastrous Planning Board curriculum in MCPS so that students will understand the value of high density apartments/condos with retail on the bottom (staffed by emoyees who cannot afford to live in the condos above them).

A disaster for the aready sinking ship that is Montgomery County.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This will be a disaster. I really wish they'd just be honest - it is just a proposal to obtain, raze, and destroy SFHs and neighborhoods with SFHs. It's the progressive dream.

Nevermind the fact that roads won't be able to handle all of the traffic and there are almost zero plans for addressing school capacity. MoCo is on its death bed. The progressives are after your homes and want to tear it down. Nothing like working hard and saving to buy a house only to have the home next to you replaced by a gigantic apartment complex with residents too cheap to pay for parking, so they'll all start parking 200 cars on the street outside your home. This is a utopian nightmare. Hopefully we will be out of the county early enough to sell our home to a sucker who won't be aware of Thrive 2050 plans. Progress means turning the entire county into a concrete jungle like Tokyo, except we all know we will get the crappy dollar store version of Tokyo instead of the high quality real thing.


Can you at least link what you're talking about?


I'm truly shocked at how few MoCo residents know that Thrive 2050 even exists, given the fact that they are coming after all of our homes:

https://montgomeryplanning.org/planning/master-plan-list/general-plans/thrive-montgomery-2050/

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/COUNCIL/Resources/Files/agenda/col/2021/20210617/testimony/testimony50-DonnaSavage.pdf


I live in the City of Rockville. MoCo planning doesn't apply to the city. I am very familiar with Rockville's 2040 master plan though.


After a cursory review, I don't see anything about them knocking down all the single family houses in the county. What I see is that they want to focus future growth in a few corridors and in-fill in existing neighborhoods instead of further increasing sprawl. I personally believe density at Metro makes a lot of sense.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why can't we keep our SFHs? If there's nowhere for the poors to live then they can just pitch a tent.

Well, OK I'd call the police and then throw away their stuff but other than that, I see no reason for building new housing.

I mean, come on! I already have a home and don't need or want more. Well, unless I want to buy a vacation home.

Yeesh, communists.



How about you try working hard, getting an education, and saving money for once in your life instead of trying to take what other have worked so hard for?

If I can't have what they have, destroy!

MoCo is toast. People dream of getting a Tokyo when we will likely get a Rio instead due the sheer incompetence of the county govt.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I agree with OP about it being a horrible plan, but you forgot about King Casey's plan to indoctrinate our youth - he wants to include his disastrous Planning Board curriculum in MCPS so that students will understand the value of high density apartments/condos with retail on the bottom (staffed by emoyees who cannot afford to live in the condos above them).

A disaster for the aready sinking ship that is Montgomery County.


Those employees should just buy SFHs on their $15/hour paycheck. Surely the SFHs will be more affordable than those condos.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can't we keep our SFHs? If there's nowhere for the poors to live then they can just pitch a tent.

Well, OK I'd call the police and then throw away their stuff but other than that, I see no reason for building new housing.

I mean, come on! I already have a home and don't need or want more. Well, unless I want to buy a vacation home.

Yeesh, communists.



How about you try working hard, getting an education, and saving money for once in your life instead of trying to take what other have worked so hard for?

If I can't have what they have, destroy!

MoCo is toast. People dream of getting a Tokyo when we will likely get a Rio instead due the sheer incompetence of the county govt.


Yeah, I can't believe the government is mandating that my private home be forcibly destroyed. It's not like there have been any systems preventing people from succeeding. It's been all equal for us for as long as I can tell.
Anonymous
Heh, maybe this will be good..

I can sell my SFH for millions of dollars to some developer so that can tear my home down and build a giant apartment complex. Grab the cash and get the hell out of the county.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Heh, maybe this will be good..

I can sell my SFH for millions of dollars to some developer so that can tear my home down and build a giant apartment complex. Grab the cash and get the hell out of the county.


Ok? I don't see population density declining anytime on the future, so that might just make sense for you. Good luck.
Anonymous
So how does the "density at the metro" relate to crime and quality of life issues? When you mix housing in with urban social and business spots, you get a lot of issues associated with drinking, drugs, homelessness, etc. Right where you live. And police really aren't allowed to enforce those low-level crimes anymore. How does Thrive address that? A lot of the crime Silver Spring, Wheaton, and Bethesda deal with, for example, is perpetrated by people coming in from DC.....on the metro.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So how does the "density at the metro" relate to crime and quality of life issues? When you mix housing in with urban social and business spots, you get a lot of issues associated with drinking, drugs, homelessness, etc. Right where you live. And police really aren't allowed to enforce those low-level crimes anymore. How does Thrive address that? A lot of the crime Silver Spring, Wheaton, and Bethesda deal with, for example, is perpetrated by people coming in from DC.....on the metro.


Oh really
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So how does the "density at the metro" relate to crime and quality of life issues? When you mix housing in with urban social and business spots, you get a lot of issues associated with drinking, drugs, homelessness, etc. Right where you live. And police really aren't allowed to enforce those low-level crimes anymore. How does Thrive address that? A lot of the crime Silver Spring, Wheaton, and Bethesda deal with, for example, is perpetrated by people coming in from DC.....on the metro.


Oh really


Yes, especially the car jackings.
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/more-than-100-carjackings-reported-in-dmv-so-far-this-year/65-9b001736-e398-4ece-a7e1-2a9c978f7314


"ABC7 asked numerous sources within law enforcement and the judicial system what they believed caused Montgomery to have a less favorable violent crime rate. Many noted that Montgomery County borders D.C. and Prince George's County, which have significantly higher criminal elements. Fairfax County, on the other hand, has a geographic buffer from D.C. thanks to Arlington County and the City of Alexandria.

"These guys can hop on the Red Line and zip back to D.C. with great ease," said a longtime police officer, speaking on the condition of anonymity. "We also often see cars and homes targeted right along Western Avenue in Bethesda, Chevy Chase and Friendship Heights."
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2020/10/montgomery-co-police-see-different-types-of-crime-committed-during-pandemic/


Daily arrests. With their addresses.
https://data.montgomerycountymd.gov/Public-Safety/Daily-Arrests/xhwt-7h2h/data
Sort by state and see the types of crimes DC residents are committing here in Montgomery County.

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