Thrive Montgomery 2050

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Congratulations. This is the dumbest regurgitation of Ayn Rand that I have heard in a while.

What's dumb are the progressives who think they're accomplishing anything. As usual, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. In reality this does nothing more than pave a golden highway for gigantic wall street firms like Black Rock and other big REITs to buy up huge swaths of SFHs and run neighborhoods into the ground once they've built up apartment complexes and maintained them like the slumlords that they are. It'll be funny when gigantic corporations buy up all of the land in the region, demolish any remaining character that is left, and create slums since they're driven entirely by profits to increase their stock. And prices will never go down.

[Anonymous]

Are you trying to persuade people that opponents of Thrive 2050 are bananas? If so, you're doing a great job.

[Anonymous]

Thrive 2050’s goals are in the right place: more compact development, more walkable communities, and upzoning, all in the name of affordable housing. Its approach to getting there will fail. The policies are all carrot — think subsidies for housing that’s only affordable if you make more than $100k — and no sticks that would cause development to happen fast enough for older buildings’ prices to fall. The upzoning proposal is too complex for smaller developers to compete with big developers in a meaningful way. Casey Anderson and Hans Riemer have been making housing policy for a decade. Princes have only gone up. Maybe that’s because their solutions to the housing crisis only benefit big developers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congratulations. This is the dumbest regurgitation of Ayn Rand that I have heard in a while.

What's dumb are the progressives who think they're accomplishing anything. As usual, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. In reality this does nothing more than pave a golden highway for gigantic wall street firms like Black Rock and other big REITs to buy up huge swaths of SFHs and run neighborhoods into the ground once they've built up apartment complexes and maintained them like the slumlords that they are. It'll be funny when gigantic corporations buy up all of the land in the region, demolish any remaining character that is left, and create slums since they're driven entirely by profits to increase their stock. And prices will never go down.

And then property values will go down too! Except for Black Rock who is, wait. Which way is it again? Or both! Property values will go down AND Black Rock will make $$. But then taxes are too high for a business to make money and I... Ok forget it, I can't follow the conspiracy. Can we just simplify this as "We must secure the existence of our SFHs and a future for SFH-owning families.". Oh, crap. Does a hyphenated word count as 2? Then it won't be 14 words anymore. Is that ok?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congratulations. This is the dumbest regurgitation of Ayn Rand that I have heard in a while.

What's dumb are the progressives who think they're accomplishing anything. As usual, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. In reality this does nothing more than pave a golden highway for gigantic wall street firms like Black Rock and other big REITs to buy up huge swaths of SFHs and run neighborhoods into the ground once they've built up apartment complexes and maintained them like the slumlords that they are. It'll be funny when gigantic corporations buy up all of the land in the region, demolish any remaining character that is left, and create slums since they're driven entirely by profits to increase their stock. And prices will never go down.

And then property values will go down too! Except for Black Rock who is, wait. Which way is it again? Or both! Property values will go down AND Black Rock will make $$. But then taxes are too high for a business to make money and I... Ok forget it, I can't follow the conspiracy. Can we just simplify this as "We must secure the existence of our SFHs and a future for SFH-owning families.". Oh, crap. Does a hyphenated word count as 2? Then it won't be 14 words anymore. Is that ok?

Sounds like someone is an angry apartment renter. I can't own a home!!!! Therefore let's destroy what others have!

Man, I can't wait until the tax base completely flees, revenue crumbles in MoCo, and it it is left in complete shambles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why can't we keep our SFHs? If there's nowhere for the poors to live then they can just pitch a tent.

Well, OK I'd call the police and then throw away their stuff but other than that, I see no reason for building new housing.

I mean, come on! I already have a home and don't need or want more. Well, unless I want to buy a vacation home.

Yeesh, communists.

^^^ written by an actual commie, thinking it was witty ^^^

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't we keep our SFHs? If there's nowhere for the poors to live then they can just pitch a tent.

Well, OK I'd call the police and then throw away their stuff but other than that, I see no reason for building new housing.

I mean, come on! I already have a home and don't need or want more. Well, unless I want to buy a vacation home.

Yeesh, communists.

How about you try working hard, getting an education, and saving money for once in your life instead of trying to take what other have worked so hard for?

If I can't have what they have, destroy!

MoCo is toast. People dream of getting a Tokyo when we will likely get a Rio instead due the sheer incompetence of the county govt.

^ this.

This is a classic example of what looks good on paper, but rarely translates into reality.

This is what happens when hardcore virtue warriors dominate local politics. The council will pass this plan to earn themselves a virtue badge, then bounce in a few years to greener and higher paying pastures. Organize if you don't want this to pass because the council is trying to fast track this plan as soon as possible. It'll end up being worse than the purple line fiasco.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/government/some-council-members-hope-for-final-vote-on-thrive-montgomery-by-years-end/

They need to fast track the plan so that Casey Anderson can resign and still have time to raise money from developers to finance his county council campaign.

[Anonymous]

It makes sense to tear down junker houses and ugly old strip malls on busy streets replacing it with high or higher density housing above retail. SFH on busy streets have lower value and are undesirable while it’s the opposite for high rise condo buildings. Areas like Wheaton and further up could end up safer if you clear out all the junkie buildings and dark areas.

[Anonymous]

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Sounds like someone is an angry apartment renter. I can't own a home!!!! Therefore let's destroy what others have!

Man, I can't wait until the tax base completely flees, revenue crumbles in MoCo, and it it is left in complete shambles.

Why wait? I suggest leaving now. Sell your uniplex for top dollar, before the bulldozers arrive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congratulations. This is the dumbest regurgitation of Ayn Rand that I have heard in a while.

What's dumb are the progressives who think they're accomplishing anything. As usual, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. In reality this does nothing more than pave a golden highway for gigantic wall street firms like Black Rock and other big REITs to buy up huge swaths of SFHs and run neighborhoods into the ground once they've built up apartment complexes and maintained them like the slumlords that they are. It'll be funny when gigantic corporations buy up all of the land in the region, demolish any remaining character that is left, and create slums since they're driven entirely by profits to increase their stock. And prices will never go down.

And then property values will go down too! Except for Black Rock who is, wait. Which way is it again? Or both! Property values will go down AND Black Rock will make $$. But then taxes are too high for a business to make money and I... Ok forget it, I can't follow the conspiracy. Can we just simplify this as "We must secure the existence of our SFHs and a future for SFH-owning families.". Oh, crap. Does a hyphenated word count as 2? Then it won't be 14 words anymore. Is that ok?

No, it simplifies to "I want to live in a single-family-detached house and go places by car, and I believe that everybody else does too. I also believe that climate change won't affect me."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congratulations. This is the dumbest regurgitation of Ayn Rand that I have heard in a while.

What's dumb are the progressives who think they're accomplishing anything. As usual, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. In reality this does nothing more than pave a golden highway for gigantic wall street firms like Black Rock and other big REITs to buy up huge swaths of SFHs and run neighborhoods into the ground once they've built up apartment complexes and maintained them like the slumlords that they are. It'll be funny when gigantic corporations buy up all of the land in the region, demolish any remaining character that is left, and create slums since they're driven entirely by profits to increase their stock. And prices will never go down.

And then property values will go down too! Except for Black Rock who is, wait. Which way is it again? Or both! Property values will go down AND Black Rock will make $$. But then taxes are too high for a business to make money and I... Ok forget it, I can't follow the conspiracy. Can we just simplify this as "We must secure the existence of our SFHs and a future for SFH-owning families.". Oh, crap. Does a hyphenated word count as 2? Then it won't be 14 words anymore. Is that ok?

Sounds like someone is an angry apartment renter. I can't own a home!!!! Therefore let's destroy what others have!

Man, I can't wait until the tax base completely flees, revenue crumbles in MoCo, and it it is left in complete shambles.

Oh grace us my liege with thine greatness and bestow upon us crumbs of your might! Please do not forsake us but for these heathens who dream of equality. We are not worthy. We beseech you to stay! We know not how to survive without you. Woe are us peasants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congratulations. This is the dumbest regurgitation of Ayn Rand that I have heard in a while.

What's dumb are the progressives who think they're accomplishing anything. As usual, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. In reality this does nothing more than pave a golden highway for gigantic wall street firms like Black Rock and other big REITs to buy up huge swaths of SFHs and run neighborhoods into the ground once they've built up apartment complexes and maintained them like the slumlords that they are. It'll be funny when gigantic corporations buy up all of the land in the region, demolish any remaining character that is left, and create slums since they're driven entirely by profits to increase their stock. And prices will never go down.

And then property values will go down too! Except for Black Rock who is, wait. Which way is it again? Or both! Property values will go down AND Black Rock will make $$. But then taxes are too high for a business to make money and I... Ok forget it, I can't follow the conspiracy. Can we just simplify this as "We must secure the existence of our SFHs and a future for SFH-owning families.". Oh, crap. Does a hyphenated word count as 2? Then it won't be 14 words anymore. Is that ok?

No, it simplifies to "I want to live in a single-family-detached house and go places by car, and I believe that everybody else does too. I also believe that climate change won't affect me."

Translation:. I should have studied something other than political science or social activism in college so that I could have obtained a better job to afford a SFH. Now I'm bitter free markets have priced me out, therefore I must destroy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congratulations. This is the dumbest regurgitation of Ayn Rand that I have heard in a while.

What's dumb are the progressives who think they're accomplishing anything. As usual, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. In reality this does nothing more than pave a golden highway for gigantic wall street firms like Black Rock and other big REITs to buy up huge swaths of SFHs and run neighborhoods into the ground once they've built up apartment complexes and maintained them like the slumlords that they are. It'll be funny when gigantic corporations buy up all of the land in the region, demolish any remaining character that is left, and create slums since they're driven entirely by profits to increase their stock. And prices will never go down.

And then property values will go down too! Except for Black Rock who is, wait. Which way is it again? Or both! Property values will go down AND Black Rock will make $$. But then taxes are too high for a business to make money and I... Ok forget it, I can't follow the conspiracy. Can we just simplify this as "We must secure the existence of our SFHs and a future for SFH-owning families.". Oh, crap. Does a hyphenated word count as 2? Then it won't be 14 words anymore. Is that ok?

Sounds like someone is an angry apartment renter. I can't own a home!!!! Therefore let's destroy what others have!

Man, I can't wait until the tax base completely flees, revenue crumbles in MoCo, and it it is left in complete shambles.

Oh grace us my liege with thine greatness and bestow upon us crumbs of your might! Please do not forsake us but for these heathens who dream of equality. We are not worthy. We beseech you to stay! We know not how to survive without you. Woe are us peasants.

Ahhhhh I'm sooooo glad we have our progressive socialists and communists living amongst us who are the gatekeepers of determining equity, and making sure that everyone gets what they're entitled to. Just admit it. The end game will be Soviet style bloc housing.


Here's MoCo thriving in 2047 for ya:










Yay

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congratulations. This is the dumbest regurgitation of Ayn Rand that I have heard in a while.

What's dumb are the progressives who think they're accomplishing anything. As usual, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. In reality this does nothing more than pave a golden highway for gigantic wall street firms like Black Rock and other big REITs to buy up huge swaths of SFHs and run neighborhoods into the ground once they've built up apartment complexes and maintained them like the slumlords that they are. It'll be funny when gigantic corporations buy up all of the land in the region, demolish any remaining character that is left, and create slums since they're driven entirely by profits to increase their stock. And prices will never go down.

And then property values will go down too! Except for Black Rock who is, wait. Which way is it again? Or both! Property values will go down AND Black Rock will make $$. But then taxes are too high for a business to make money and I... Ok forget it, I can't follow the conspiracy. Can we just simplify this as "We must secure the existence of our SFHs and a future for SFH-owning families.". Oh, crap. Does a hyphenated word count as 2? Then it won't be 14 words anymore. Is that ok?

No, it simplifies to "I want to live in a single-family-detached house and go places by car, and I believe that everybody else does too. I also believe that climate change won't affect me."

Translation:. I should have studied something other than political science or social activism in college so that I could have obtained a better job to afford a SFH. Now I'm bitter free markets have priced me out, therefore I must destroy!

Eh? I'm the PP you're responding to. My college major was in a science. I live in a single-family-detached house that I own. Notwithstanding this, I am able to understand that (1) different people have different housing wants and needs at different times in their lives (2) the suburban, car-dependent model of land use is burning up and flooding out our children's future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:


Ahhhhh I'm sooooo glad we have our progressive socialists and communists living amongst us who are the gatekeepers of determining equity, and making sure that everyone gets what they're entitled to. Just admit it. The end game will be Soviet style bloc housing.


Here's MoCo thriving in 2047 for ya:

Yay

You know, if you wanted to complain about the aesthetics of the ubiquitous five-over-ones, I'd almost support you.

But your "Soviet style bloc housing" panic is just ridiculous.
https://archive.curbed.com/2018/12/4/18125536/real-estate-modern-apartment-architecture