Did you even look it up? You seem completely unaware about the makeup of the clusters that you have no problem criticizing the parents of. There is an entire set of low income housing that goes to Churchill and middle school with at least part of the Wootton cluster. Low income housing is what it is. I think it’s very different than shipping kids away from their home area to help diversify other areas. So to answer your question-I would care a lot less about building a low income housing area than I would about H. |
Please see my prior response. I understand there is a variety of housing that affects the CURRENT population. I'm suggesting a scenario in which the housing changes to the extent that the population shifts to something more like that which people expect in Option H. Additionally, your bolded makes an assumption that the intent of Option H is diversification. To my knowledge that is stated nowhere, and it is about fiscal management and enrollment planning. In any event, my question is about whether that "diversification" were to happen without "shipping kids" it appears that many would still object, based on the concerns/"harms" they are raising. |
No it’s not the same. If someone moves to the cluster-they go to the schools within that cluster. As much as you are trying to make this sound the same it’s just not. We are being moved OUT of our community into someone else’s community. That will never be the same as people who legitimately move into a cluster whether through low income housing or not. And as for your other point-they would never say they are doing it for the diversification. Even though it is exactly why. MCPS will come up with 10 other reasons why they are doing it to hide the real reason every time. And again-the point still stands that you seem willfully uninformed of the area in question so i’m not even sure why you feel so interested in this discussion anyway. |
Yeah Gaithersburg high school will lose the rich people and lose diversity. Crown is basically the Bethesda part of Gaithersburg |
Your last line personal attack is unnecessary and irrelevant. People are asserting that Option H is bad BECAUSE it will lower the aggregate test scores of the school. That is the harm. I am addressing that particular assertion, not all. If that is the harm, then people should object to any change in demographics that they think will also likely affect the aggregate test scores. |
Bruh…no one answered you because your question makes no sense and is irrelevant |
I see we’re back to this. Please go back in this thread. It is lawful to close schools. It is not lawful to close schools without going through the required processes and procedures to close a school. MCPS has not started the procedures necessary to formally close Wootton—those procedures are completely separate and distinct from school boundaries. Before you say something is legal, perhaps check the law first. Go read the state regulations. I’ll even cite you which one: COMAR 13A.02.09 Option H is de facto closure. It is a school closure disguised in a boundary study. |
Alterntively, when this argument complaint is distilled down to the essence and reflected back, people don't know how to respond because it reveals something distasteful. |
I’m out of this thread. Completely unproductive and full of trolls that are too dumb and ignorant to realize the actual issues at hand. |
It isn’t a question of demographics. Rather one of projected academic performance based on past academic performance. GHS is not in the same league as Wootton based on academic performance. Some GHS students may be, but on average they are not. It would be like a high-performing major sports team being forced to accept 30%+ more players from a much lower performing team in exchange for a new stadium. Would you expect the resulting team to perform at the same level as before? It might eventually, but the odds would be against that, especially if other high performing teams were not forced to do so. Also, a new stadium does guarantee championships. |
Is the question what if there’s low-income housing being built in the Wootton cluster? There are actually multiple MPDU projects, which are all low-income, being actively built right now (that’s part of the problem with H—there are SO many new developments in the immediate area that H will lead to another boundary study in the future. Closing Wootton is not prudent long term. H is the most uncertain and unstable for the long term.) As a Wootton parent, I would have zero problem of low income housing being built in my community. What I don’t want is nonsensical bussing where a whole high school gets bussed into a street that is one lane both ways, and my community gets bussed out. I don’t have a problem w Damascus or Magruder kid, but it seems horribly inefficient to bus ~2,000 kids into our community while bussing all of our kids out of our community. |
Couple things here. 1. It is not clear that this qualifies as a closure. There is no definition in the code, but counties and municipalities have defined as "decision to permanently end use of a facility as a school." Don't think that is established here. 2. There is no full analysis of whether what is occurring right now meets those obligations under the code. 3. There is nothing that violates the code if those procedures occur subsequent to this process. |
Thanks for responding. Your bolded is a separate argument that has some merit. The argument I am addressing is the one against changing demographics. The question is whether there was intentional development to the extent that current population demographics/scores were likely to change, would people object? If not, than any argument about "test scores" is without merit. |
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All of these pro H. Here’s what’s to happen under H:
The W schools benefit even more. Let’s stop pretending the Rosemont kids that H has Wootton merging with are some low-income families. Have you people looked at the houses around Crown that go to Rosemont? It’s like 800-900k for a freaking townhome. H doesn’t send all of Rosemont to Crown/Wootton, it literally sends the richest Rosemont kids at both Rosemont and the entire Gaithersburg cluster, to Crown. These people on this thread think the only people who are anti-H are Wootton parents. No—many Gaithersburg families are also anti H but for very different reasons. Think of H impacts on Gaithersburg please. |
Oh, and the new stadium is much further away than the old one in a high traffic, congested area that would make it difficult for the players and fans to travel there, an increased risk of athletes getting hit by cars because of much higher traffic, etc… |