FCPS HS Boundary

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Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to bring this to the attention of Youngkin, Sears, and Miyares. This is a PR goldmine for Republicans wanting to highlight how out-of-touch and despotic the local Democrats have become in NoVa.

I plan to reach out to Youngkin on this soon. It really is such a boon for their party.

I suspect Youngkin will be hesitant to shout "stop the integration of Fairfax County Public Schools" from the rooftops.

Sure, he’ll let it go through and then push for vouchers, which I’ve never supported until this latest SB disaster. I also think this leaves the state ripe for a Prop 13 style limitation on property tax increases, which again, I would never have supported previously, but makes sense where you have such an utterly incompetent board screwing things up so royally.

The republicans can largely sit back and watch this intraparty conflict play out.

Yep, the republicans are political losers in Fairfax county no matter what. Just grab some popcorn and wait to see who gets called a racist.

Republicans will never win here, but if they can tighten margins in Fairfax, they win state wide. If my kids' schools end up worse, I'll happily vote R

Same. And that’s the broader point. A 5-point swing in Fairfax brings Virginia from reliable blue to a swing state. Ironically it could be the National republicans who stand to benefit from this.

Signed, a formerly reliable Fairfax county democrat

It’s really weird that you would make local school board action affect your state and national votes.

The school board is insulated from county politics because we all vote D. Voting R statewide gives you governors and AGs who will repay the favor by going after boards and superintendents, just ask Scott Ziegler. If enough Rs win at the state level, we get vouchers. Sure they won't pay for private, but they're a nice discount for those of use having to pay because we're zoned to a terrible high school

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Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to bring this to the attention of Youngkin, Sears, and Miyares. This is a PR goldmine for Republicans wanting to highlight how out-of-touch and despotic the local Democrats have become in NoVa.

I think their changes will be well received by the county and most of their constituents. I think many underestimate how popular these public school initiatives have become.

Seattle public schools recently eliminated their version of AAP in the name of equity.

I think you are wrong. But I guess we will see.

The changes to the TJ admissions process seem to be along similar lines and that was well-received. Sure a handful of people were upset, but I think it had overall popular support.

This affects people’s property values. Their ability to retire, meet savings goals, or simply sell. Even the most liberal voter won’t stand for losing a hundred thousand in their house overnight.

The problem is that these pyramids were even allowed to become so disparate. Doing so created some winners as buyers were willing to pay more for certain schools. Undoing that stem will create losers. People who stand to lose substantial amounts of money will fight tooth and nail. I get it. To others, it’s an abstract data point, but to them it may mean a real difference in life trajectory.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to bring this to the attention of Youngkin, Sears, and Miyares. This is a PR goldmine for Republicans wanting to highlight how out-of-touch and despotic the local Democrats have become in NoVa.

I think their changes will be well received by the county and most of their constituents. I think many underestimate how popular these public school initiatives have become.

Seattle public schools recently eliminated their version of AAP in the name of equity.

I think you are wrong. But I guess we will see.

The changes to the TJ admissions process seem to be along similar lines and that was well-received. Sure a handful of people were upset, but I think it had overall popular support.

This affects people’s property values. Their ability to retire, meet savings goals, or simply sell. Even the most liberal voter won’t stand for losing a hundred thousand in their house overnight.

The problem is that these pyramids were even allowed to become so disparate. Doing so created some winners as buyers were willing to pay more for certain schools. Undoing that stem will create losers. People who stand to lose substantial amounts of money will fight tooth and nail. I get it. To others, it’s an abstract data point, but to them it may mean a real difference in life trajectory.

FCPS is not in the business of ensuring personal investment risk is minimized for some and maximized for others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to bring this to the attention of Youngkin, Sears, and Miyares. This is a PR goldmine for Republicans wanting to highlight how out-of-touch and despotic the local Democrats have become in NoVa.

I think their changes will be well received by the county and most of their constituents. I think many underestimate how popular these public school initiatives have become.

Seattle public schools recently eliminated their version of AAP in the name of equity.

Well, my prior response got deleted, but parents will still give the SB an earful.

It wasn't long ago that a School Board member like Ricardy Anderson made sure that rising 2nd and 3rd graders at elementary schools within the Justice HS pyramid were all grandfathered when they changed the boundaries at Glen Forest and other ES within the Justice pyramid. And there was also grandfathering at lower grades for the kids in the McLean HS pyramid affected by the recent Kent Gardens boundary changes.

But now they want to limit grandfathering for high school students who are going to be reassigned to rising seniors? The stakes are a lot higher in high school when it comes to course sequences, friendships, and extra-curricular activities.

They will get so much negative feedback from this. They are profoundly tone-deaf, and antagonizing the very people whose support they'd want the next time they are asking for more money to support teachers and staff. I don't mind a lot of the stuff the SB members champion that others complain about. But this is over the top.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to bring this to the attention of Youngkin, Sears, and Miyares. This is a PR goldmine for Republicans wanting to highlight how out-of-touch and despotic the local Democrats have become in NoVa.

I think their changes will be well received by the county and most of their constituents. I think many underestimate how popular these public school initiatives have become.

Seattle public schools recently eliminated their version of AAP in the name of equity.

I think you are wrong. But I guess we will see.

The changes to the TJ admissions process seem to be along similar lines and that was well-received. Sure a handful of people were upset, but I think it had overall popular support.

This affects people’s property values. Their ability to retire, meet savings goals, or simply sell. Even the most liberal voter won’t stand for losing a hundred thousand in their house overnight.

The problem is that these pyramids were even allowed to become so disparate. Doing so created some winners as buyers were willing to pay more for certain schools. Undoing that stem will create losers. People who stand to lose substantial amounts of money will fight tooth and nail. I get it. To others, it’s an abstract data point, but to them it may mean a real difference in life trajectory.

FCPS is not in the business of ensuring personal investment risk is minimized for some and maximized for others.

That can be their stance with Gov. Sears announces vouchers

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to bring this to the attention of Youngkin, Sears, and Miyares. This is a PR goldmine for Republicans wanting to highlight how out-of-touch and despotic the local Democrats have become in NoVa.

I plan to reach out to Youngkin on this soon. It really is such a boon for their party.

I suspect Youngkin will be hesitant to shout "stop the integration of Fairfax County Public Schools" from the rooftops.

Sure, he’ll let it go through and then push for vouchers, which I’ve never supported until this latest SB disaster. I also think this leaves the state ripe for a Prop 13 style limitation on property tax increases, which again, I would never have supported previously, but makes sense where you have such an utterly incompetent board screwing things up so royally.

The republicans can largely sit back and watch this intraparty conflict play out.

Yep, the republicans are political losers in Fairfax county no matter what. Just grab some popcorn and wait to see who gets called a racist.

Republicans will never win here, but if they can tighten margins in Fairfax, they win state wide. If my kids' schools end up worse, I'll happily vote R

Same. And that’s the broader point. A 5-point swing in Fairfax brings Virginia from reliable blue to a swing state. Ironically it could be the National republicans who stand to benefit from this.

Signed, a formerly reliable Fairfax county democrat

It’s really weird that you would make local school board action affect your state and national votes.

Well, I’ve always been willing to pay my fair share to support others. This is different- this is the school board picking specific and significant losers across the country under the guise of busing and sleep time, both absurd reasons (because their lawyer has told them not to discuss equity).

As much as I generally support the Democratic platform, when elected officials take so much from you and your community, it makes you reconsider the stance. At least it made me reconsider. I won’t vote for TFG, but everyone else is on the table. A self-inflicted wound.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to bring this to the attention of Youngkin, Sears, and Miyares. This is a PR goldmine for Republicans wanting to highlight how out-of-touch and despotic the local Democrats have become in NoVa.

I plan to reach out to Youngkin on this soon. It really is such a boon for their party.

I suspect Youngkin will be hesitant to shout "stop the integration of Fairfax County Public Schools" from the rooftops.

Sure, he’ll let it go through and then push for vouchers, which I’ve never supported until this latest SB disaster. I also think this leaves the state ripe for a Prop 13 style limitation on property tax increases, which again, I would never have supported previously, but makes sense where you have such an utterly incompetent board screwing things up so royally.

The republicans can largely sit back and watch this intraparty conflict play out.

Yep, the republicans are political losers in Fairfax county no matter what. Just grab some popcorn and wait to see who gets called a racist.

Republicans will never win here, but if they can tighten margins in Fairfax, they win state wide. If my kids' schools end up worse, I'll happily vote R

Same. And that’s the broader point. A 5-point swing in Fairfax brings Virginia from reliable blue to a swing state. Ironically it could be the National republicans who stand to benefit from this.

Signed, a formerly reliable Fairfax county democrat

It’s really weird that you would make local school board action affect your state and national votes.

Well, I’ve always been willing to pay my fair share to support others. This is different- this is the school board picking specific and significant losers across the country under the guise of busing and sleep time, both absurd reasons (because their lawyer has told them not to discuss equity).

As much as I generally support the Democratic platform, when elected officials take so much from you and your community, it makes you reconsider the stance. At least it made me reconsider. I won’t vote for TFG, but everyone else is on the table. A self-inflicted wound.

So because your school boundaries MIGHT change (remember no changes have been suggested yet - this entire thread is speculation), you would vote R at the state, nationa level and against gun reform, recognizing election results, environmental efforts, women’s rights… wow.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to bring this to the attention of Youngkin, Sears, and Miyares. This is a PR goldmine for Republicans wanting to highlight how out-of-touch and despotic the local Democrats have become in NoVa.

I plan to reach out to Youngkin on this soon. It really is such a boon for their party.

I suspect Youngkin will be hesitant to shout "stop the integration of Fairfax County Public Schools" from the rooftops.

Sure, he’ll let it go through and then push for vouchers, which I’ve never supported until this latest SB disaster. I also think this leaves the state ripe for a Prop 13 style limitation on property tax increases, which again, I would never have supported previously, but makes sense where you have such an utterly incompetent board screwing things up so royally.

The republicans can largely sit back and watch this intraparty conflict play out.

Yep, the republicans are political losers in Fairfax county no matter what. Just grab some popcorn and wait to see who gets called a racist.

Republicans will never win here, but if they can tighten margins in Fairfax, they win state wide. If my kids' schools end up worse, I'll happily vote R

Same. And that’s the broader point. A 5-point swing in Fairfax brings Virginia from reliable blue to a swing state. Ironically it could be the National republicans who stand to benefit from this.

Signed, a formerly reliable Fairfax county democrat

It’s really weird that you would make local school board action affect your state and national votes.

Well, I’ve always been willing to pay my fair share to support others. This is different- this is the school board picking specific and significant losers across the country under the guise of busing and sleep time, both absurd reasons (because their lawyer has told them not to discuss equity).

As much as I generally support the Democratic platform, when elected officials take so much from you and your community, it makes you reconsider the stance. At least it made me reconsider. I won’t vote for TFG, but everyone else is on the table. A self-inflicted wound.

So because your school boundaries MIGHT change (remember no changes have been suggested yet - this entire thread is speculation), you would vote R at the state, nationa level and against gun reform, recognizing election results, environmental efforts, women’s rights… wow.

Yep. And that is my right. I am immensely disappointed with the SB and Fairfax democrats who seem to support this approach (or at least are not trying to prevent it). If this ends up on the cutting room floor then I would reconsider, but they’ve lost me if they go thorough with this.

It’s not a MIGHT when school board members are giving timing for operationalizing the policy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to bring this to the attention of Youngkin, Sears, and Miyares. This is a PR goldmine for Republicans wanting to highlight how out-of-touch and despotic the local Democrats have become in NoVa.

I think their changes will be well received by the county and most of their constituents. I think many underestimate how popular these public school initiatives have become.

Seattle public schools recently eliminated their version of AAP in the name of equity.

I think you are wrong. But I guess we will see.

The changes to the TJ admissions process seem to be along similar lines and that was well-received. Sure a handful of people were upset, but I think it had overall popular support.

This affects people’s property values. Their ability to retire, meet savings goals, or simply sell. Even the most liberal voter won’t stand for losing a hundred thousand in their house overnight.

The problem is that these pyramids were even allowed to become so disparate. Doing so created some winners as buyers were willing to pay more for certain schools. Undoing that stem will create losers. People who stand to lose substantial amounts of money will fight tooth and nail. I get it. To others, it’s an abstract data point, but to them it may mean a real difference in life trajectory.

FCPS is not in the business of ensuring personal investment risk is minimized for some and maximized for others.

I happen to agree with you, AND I can also understand how others are upset.

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I don't see how state and national level politicians have anything to do with the county school board decisions. I would definitely vote out my county level politicians, but I don't see how a Youngkin or the state legislature could change school boundaries. It's definitely not in the purview of a US senator or congressman (or president for that matter). Focus on the local politicians right now.

[Anonymous]

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I don't see how state and national level politicians have anything to do with the county school board decisions. I would definitely vote out my county level politicians, but I don't see how a Youngkin or the state legislature could change school boundaries. It's definitely not in the purview of a US senator or congressman (or president for that matter). Focus on the local politicians right now.

Local politicians can't be voted out. The only way to punish the local democratic party and hope they in turn pressure the board is to cost them state and national elections

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
I don't see how state and national level politicians have anything to do with the county school board decisions. I would definitely vote out my county level politicians, but I don't see how a Youngkin or the state legislature could change school boundaries. It's definitely not in the purview of a US senator or congressman (or president for that matter). Focus on the local politicians right now.

Local politicians can't be voted out. The only way to punish the local democratic party and hope they in turn pressure the board is to cost them state and national elections

+1 (and several of my neighbors too).

Try to argue it as much as you want. I am now a one issue voter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I don't see how state and national level politicians have anything to do with the county school board decisions. I would definitely vote out my county level politicians, but I don't see how a Youngkin or the state legislature could change school boundaries. It's definitely not in the purview of a US senator or congressman (or president for that matter). Focus on the local politicians right now.

Local politicians can't be voted out. The only way to punish the local democratic party and hope they in turn pressure the board is to cost them state and national elections

+1 (and several of my neighbors too).

Try to argue it as much as you want. I am now a one issue voter.

And I’ll add to my post that the SB is really alienating a pretty crucial democratic voting block - UMC and educated voters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to bring this to the attention of Youngkin, Sears, and Miyares. This is a PR goldmine for Republicans wanting to highlight how out-of-touch and despotic the local Democrats have become in NoVa.

I think their changes will be well received by the county and most of their constituents. I think many underestimate how popular these public school initiatives have become.

Seattle public schools recently eliminated their version of AAP in the name of equity.

I think you are wrong. But I guess we will see.

The changes to the TJ admissions process seem to be along similar lines and that was well-received. Sure a handful of people were upset, but I think it had overall popular support.

This affects people’s property values. Their ability to retire, meet savings goals, or simply sell. Even the most liberal voter won’t stand for losing a hundred thousand in their house overnight.

The problem is that these pyramids were even allowed to become so disparate. Doing so created some winners as buyers were willing to pay more for certain schools. Undoing that stem will create losers. People who stand to lose substantial amounts of money will fight tooth and nail. I get it. To others, it’s an abstract data point, but to them it may mean a real difference in life trajectory.

FCPS is not in the business of ensuring personal investment risk is minimized for some and maximized for others.

Yeah, that's why they expanded West Potomac HS to 3000 seats when Mount Vernon had capacity. Karen Corbett-Sanders and the other Democratic politicians in that part of the county like Scott Surovell were more than happy to stick the rest of us with the bill for that expansion, but now they want to screw other school pyramids.

[Anonymous]

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I don't see how state and national level politicians have anything to do with the county school board decisions. I would definitely vote out my county level politicians, but I don't see how a Youngkin or the state legislature could change school boundaries. It's definitely not in the purview of a US senator or congressman (or president for that matter). Focus on the local politicians right now.

Local politicians can't be voted out. The only way to punish the local democratic party and hope they in turn pressure the board is to cost them state and national elections

+1 (and several of my neighbors too).

Try to argue it as much as you want. I am now a one issue voter.

And I’ll add to my post that the SB is really alienating a pretty crucial democratic voting block - UMC and educated voters.

+1000. They have no common sense and every chance they get they look to screw the people who actually pay the bills.