APS - why are teachers so terrified?

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they're terrified because they see that the well-behaved kids are all planning to stay DL and all the troublemakers will be returning to class.

In my son’s K class they just said goodbye to the kids who are switching to a new class to stay virtual. The entire lowest group (4 kids) - the ones who still can’t count to 50 and don’t know all their letters - are staying virtual. The remaining class will actually be easier to manage now. Unfortunate but true.

I say this as both teacher and mom, it is really write that you know who the lowest 4 in your kids’ class are. I’m just stunned any of you know this much about all your kid’s peers.

Agreed!

I wouldn’t normally, but my kid has been going to Kindergarten on an iPad while I sit in the same room trying to work since September. It’s hard not to notice who needs the most help and who is being grouped together. If they had been in school I would have no idea. I look forward to not overhearing 1st grade and beyond.

Your kid didn’t wear headphones? You were “working” while also paying close enough attention to know which 4 kids can’t count to 50? Come on.

Nope, he won’t keep headphones on, and yes, I was working and half listening at the same time. They did count arounds and break out counting groups so it’s noticeable when someone who needs a lot of help. Welcome to virtual kindergarten. It’s a group project and I have not enjoyed it.

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I thought teachers were smart, do they not realize healthcare workers have been going in before the vaccine

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Anonymous wrote:I thought teachers were smart, do they not realize healthcare workers have been going in before the vaccine

JFC. Give it a rest. They are going back.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they're terrified because they see that the well-behaved kids are all planning to stay DL and all the troublemakers will be returning to class.

In my son’s K class they just said goodbye to the kids who are switching to a new class to stay virtual. The entire lowest group (4 kids) - the ones who still can’t count to 50 and don’t know all their letters - are staying virtual. The remaining class will actually be easier to manage now. Unfortunate but true.

I say this as both teacher and mom, it is really write that you know who the lowest 4 in your kids’ class are. I’m just stunned any of you know this much about all your kid’s peers.

Agreed!

I wouldn’t normally, but my kid has been going to Kindergarten on an iPad while I sit in the same room trying to work since September. It’s hard not to notice who needs the most help and who is being grouped together. If they had been in school I would have no idea. I look forward to not overhearing 1st grade and beyond.

Your kid didn’t wear headphones? You were working” while also paying close enough attention to know which 4 kids can’t count to 50? Come on.

News flash- most kindergarteners are not capable of sitting in front of a screen on their own and following along with distance learning/navigating between different portals without substantial parental support so yes, if you can’t afford a full time tutor/nanny and don’t want your kid to be one of those bottom four you pretty much do need to be constantly monitoring. This is why distance learning for the early elementary students is a joke. The posters criticizing op clearly have older children and just don’t get it.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they're terrified because they see that the well-behaved kids are all planning to stay DL and all the troublemakers will be returning to class.

In my son’s K class they just said goodbye to the kids who are switching to a new class to stay virtual. The entire lowest group (4 kids) - the ones who still can’t count to 50 and don’t know all their letters - are staying virtual. The remaining class will actually be easier to manage now. Unfortunate but true.

I say this as both teacher and mom, it is really write that you know who the lowest 4 in your kids’ class are. I’m just stunned any of you know this much about all your kid’s peers.

Agreed!

I wouldn’t normally, but my kid has been going to Kindergarten on an iPad while I sit in the same room trying to work since September. It’s hard not to notice who needs the most help and who is being grouped together. If they had been in school I would have no idea. I look forward to not overhearing 1st grade and beyond.

Your kid didn’t wear headphones? You were working” while also paying close enough attention to know which 4 kids can’t count to 50? Come on.

News flash- most kindergarteners are not capable of sitting in front of a screen on their own and following along with distance learning/navigating between different portals without substantial parental support so yes, if you can’t afford a full time tutor/nanny and don’t want your kid to be one of those bottom four you pretty much do need to be constantly monitoring. This is why distance learning for the early elementary students is a joke. The posters criticizing op clearly have older children and just don’t get it.

This is almost bringing me to tears thinking of these kids trying to learn and socialize on headphones. I don’t have little kids btw.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought teachers were smart, do they not realize healthcare workers have been going in before the vaccine

JFC. Give it a rest. They are going back.

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They’re not. This is fake news.



But as we read earlier, you are letting a handful of extremists speak for you because you do not want to collectively put your names together and publicly represent the truth in any way. So this is what we are left with, and yes it is very bad PR for you.

No. It's because teachers don't have time to do this. They are busy teaching your children online. And even if you don't think that's adequate, they are trying to do their jobs, and it's been very time-consuming. Worrying about what people like you think and shopping around for PR firms to help them is the last thing they have the time or money for.

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I thought teachers were smart, do they not realize healthcare workers have been going in before the vaccine

They are smart. They even know how to avoid using run-on sentences and when to use question marks.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they're terrified because they see that the well-behaved kids are all planning to stay DL and all the troublemakers will be returning to class.

In my son’s K class they just said goodbye to the kids who are switching to a new class to stay virtual. The entire lowest group (4 kids) - the ones who still can’t count to 50 and don’t know all their letters - are staying virtual. The remaining class will actually be easier to manage now. Unfortunate but true.

I say this as both teacher and mom, it is really write that you know who the lowest 4 in your kids’ class are. I’m just stunned any of you know this much about all your kid’s peers.

Agreed!

I wouldn’t normally, but my kid has been going to Kindergarten on an iPad while I sit in the same room trying to work since September. It’s hard not to notice who needs the most help and who is being grouped together. If they had been in school I would have no idea. I look forward to not overhearing 1st grade and beyond.

Your kid didn’t wear headphones? You were working” while also paying close enough attention to know which 4 kids can’t count to 50? Come on.

News flash- most kindergarteners are not capable of sitting in front of a screen on their own and following along with distance learning/navigating between different portals without substantial parental support so yes, if you can’t afford a full time tutor/nanny and don’t want your kid to be one of those bottom four you pretty much do need to be constantly monitoring. This is why distance learning for the early elementary students is a joke. The posters criticizing op clearly have older children and just don’t get it.

No I’m the teacher mom Pp and my first grade kid did DL til they went back. She needed occasional help but my job meant I didn’t get to sit in and listen and take notes to the point I could tell you who were the “lowest 4” in her class.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they're terrified because they see that the well-behaved kids are all planning to stay DL and all the troublemakers will be returning to class.

In my son’s K class they just said goodbye to the kids who are switching to a new class to stay virtual. The entire lowest group (4 kids) - the ones who still can’t count to 50 and don’t know all their letters - are staying virtual. The remaining class will actually be easier to manage now. Unfortunate but true.

I say this as both teacher and mom, it is really write that you know who the lowest 4 in your kids’ class are. I’m just stunned any of you know this much about all your kid’s peers.

Agreed!

I wouldn’t normally, but my kid has been going to Kindergarten on an iPad while I sit in the same room trying to work since September. It’s hard not to notice who needs the most help and who is being grouped together. If they had been in school I would have no idea. I look forward to not overhearing 1st grade and beyond.

Your kid didn’t wear headphones? You were working” while also paying close enough attention to know which 4 kids can’t count to 50? Come on.

News flash- most kindergarteners are not capable of sitting in front of a screen on their own and following along with distance learning/navigating between different portals without substantial parental support so yes, if you can’t afford a full time tutor/nanny and don’t want your kid to be one of those bottom four you pretty much do need to be constantly monitoring. This is why distance learning for the early elementary students is a joke. The posters criticizing op clearly have older children and just don’t get it.

This is almost bringing me to tears thinking of these kids trying to learn and socialize on headphones. I don’t have little kids btw.

That’s dramatic. They did fine. Was it ideal, no. Did they still find ways to talk, chat, have fun, communicate? Yes. My kid had plenty of knowledge of her peers when they went in person because their teacher facilitated that for them online. Tears from adults is so unnecessary, god the drama is nonstop.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, either. I don't understand why a parent, after hearing one young, inexperienced teacher talk to one 2nd grade class in APS, would assume that ALL APS teachers are "terrified."

If you have a complaint about this teacher scaring 2nd graders, take it up with the AP or principal. But FFS, do not assume that all teachers are in agreement with this teacher.

Have you seen the social media posts and the teachers speaking at school board meetings? It may not be all, but there is a large cohort who expects significant numbers of teachers and their family members to die within a week of reopening.

It’s like the same five people.

They aren't really afraid of dying within a week of reopening. They just don't want to deal with the hassle of actually leaving their houses and getting to their places of employment.

It’s going to be such a bummer for you when this is all over and your gripes will need to get more creative.

I’m a teacher and I have to say, there is a kernel of truth to PP’s statement. I have several colleagues who are largely irritated to be back. Not because they feel unsafe. But because home was convenient and they don’t see this amount of kids as worth going in. I hate to say it and it’s not the MAJORITY. But this is true in some cases. Most of us , once we hit the vaccine we were good to go and happy to return. The ones still pushing back on a return have different reasons but this definitely one of them.

I'm glad teachers can get vaccinated, but am still frustrated that there are teachers who don't want to return when there is a vaccine that they have priority for. My federal agency returned to work ages ago without a vaccine. Our solution for social distancing involves shift schedules that start at 4am. I get to do this then come home and take over classroom proctoring.

You might work at the same place as my spouse. 4am shift. He won't get the vaccine for months, probably.

This is one of the many reasons parents are furious that many teachers don't want to return. Many people didn't have a choice, couldn't advocate for HEPA filters before returning, weren't able to get a vaccine, etc etc. They either went back to work or were forced to quit. The educational system has been so different for reasons I can't understand.

But that guy DOES have a choice. And he chose to begin work at 4 am. I begin work at 5 am. And then I, too, switch shifts in the schoolroom with my spouse. I'm not grousing about it at all. Seems like this guy is a complainer and a whiner.

The posts didn't say anyone chose a 4 AM shift, it said the solution "involved 4 am shifts." These workers had to return, unvaccinated, and we have no idea whether they had their pick of shifts, were assigned, or had to compromise with others to maintain coverage. I feel like some of these posts implying that everyone else has more options than teachers are bordering on ridiculousness.

My heart breaks for those people. However, I know plenty of federal workers that are working from home and have wanted schools open since CoVID first happened. Whatever... this is over now.

Wow almost like the federal government is a massive employer with workers in all different kinds of jobs. The Capitol police officers are federal employees. So are the secret service. So are the FDA folks working on vaccines. So are some of the National Mall groundskeepers. So are all the lawyers on DCUM who are working from home saying they can live "perfectly comfortably" on a mere $300k.

That is like saying "ok so I get that nurses in covid wards took a lot of risks during the pandemic, but my kid's speech therapist is still doing telehealth." ....Ok? People have different jobs?

Correct - many federal employees have been required to come into the office for work, particularly in the national security and law enforcement agencies. There has even been press coverage about the fact there have been issues with people not wearing masks at some agencies. Don't assume all federal employees are all safe at home simply because you don't want to go back into the classroom. I have actually understood why teachers are apprehensive about going back in. But don't act like you have the only jobs that have required in person work.

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I thought teachers were smart, do they not realize healthcare workers have been going in before the vaccine

They are smart. They even know how to avoid using run-on sentences and when to use question marks.

Apparently not science smart...

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Anonymous wrote:

I thought teachers were smart, do they not realize healthcare workers have been going in before the vaccine

They are smart. They even know how to avoid using run-on sentences and when to use question marks.

Apparently not science smart...

Hey loser. Teachers are going back. You’ll need to go find someone new to bully.

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Anonymous wrote:

I thought teachers were smart, do they not realize healthcare workers have been going in before the vaccine

They are smart. They even know how to avoid using run-on sentences and when to use question marks.

Apparently not science smart...

Hey loser. Teachers are going back. You’ll need to go find someone new to bully.

No too many were granted bogus exceptions

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I thought teachers were smart, do they not realize healthcare workers have been going in before the vaccine

They are smart. They even know how to avoid using run-on sentences and when to use question marks.

Apparently not science smart...

Hey loser. Teachers are going back. You’ll need to go find someone new to bully.

No too many were granted bogus exceptions

Well their doctor had to sign off and HR had to as well so your personal definition of “bogus” doesn’t matter. In Loudoun it’s only 701 teachers total who got P1 status and none got P2. It’s probably 1/4-1/3 in APS. The number isn’t big at all.