APS - why are teachers so terrified?

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they're terrified because they see that the well-behaved kids are all planning to stay DL and all the troublemakers will be returning to class.

Troublemakers? In America's nerdiest, most risk averse, rules-following county?

Loudon County has lots of nerds?

it's Loudoun.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m terrified of spiders. Am I saying that right?

No school until there are no more spiders!

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]They’re not. This is fake news.[/quote]

But as we read earlier, you are letting a handful of extremists speak for you because you do not want to collectively put your names together and publicly represent the truth in any way. So this is what we are left with, and yes it is very bad PR for you. [/quote]
I won’t judge you for lawsuit guy if you don’t judge my by obsessive ceramics teacher or whoever[/quote]

LOL

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, either. I don't understand why a parent, after hearing one young, inexperienced teacher talk to one 2nd grade class in APS, would assume that ALL APS teachers are "terrified."

If you have a complaint about this teacher scaring 2nd graders, take it up with the AP or principal. But FFS, do not assume that all teachers are in agreement with this teacher.

Have you seen the social media posts and the teachers speaking at school board meetings? It may not be all, but there is a large cohort who expects significant numbers of teachers and their family members to die within a week of reopening.

It’s like the same five people.

They aren't really afraid of dying within a week of reopening. They just don't want to deal with the hassle of actually leaving their houses and getting to their places of employment.

It’s going to be such a bummer for you when this is all over and your gripes will need to get more creative.

I’m a teacher and I have to say, there is a kernel of truth to PP’s statement. I have several colleagues who are largely irritated to be back. Not because they feel unsafe. But because home was convenient and they don’t see this amount of kids as worth going in. I hate to say it and it’s not the MAJORITY. But this is true in some cases. Most of us , once we hit the vaccine we were good to go and happy to return. The ones still pushing back on a return have different reasons but this definitely one of them.

I'm glad teachers can get vaccinated, but am still frustrated that there are teachers who don't want to return when there is a vaccine that they have priority for. My federal agency returned to work ages ago without a vaccine. Our solution for social distancing involves shift schedules that start at 4am. I get to do this then come home and take over classroom proctoring.

You might work at the same place as my spouse. 4am shift. He won't get the vaccine for months, probably.

This is one of the many reasons parents are furious that many teachers don't want to return. Many people didn't have a choice, couldn't advocate for HEPA filters before returning, weren't able to get a vaccine, etc etc. They either went back to work or were forced to quit. The educational system has been so different for reasons I can't understand.

But that guy DOES have a choice. And he chose to begin work at 4 am. I begin work at 5 am. And then I, too, switch shifts in the schoolroom with my spouse. I'm not grousing about it at all. Seems like this guy is a complainer and a whiner.

The posts didn't say anyone chose a 4 AM shift, it said the solution "involved 4 am shifts." These workers had to return, unvaccinated, and we have no idea whether they had their pick of shifts, were assigned, or had to compromise with others to maintain coverage. I feel like some of these posts implying that everyone else has more options than teachers are bordering on ridiculousness.

My heart breaks for those people. However, I know plenty of federal workers that are working from home and have wanted schools open since CoVID first happened. Whatever... this is over now.

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Anonymous wrote:I am so at a loss. All of the data I've seen show that the vaccines are incredibly effective at protecting the person who is vaccinated and reducing transmission. Having a vaccinated teaching force, combined with APS's mask requirement, cohorting, health screening, distancing, air cleaners, etc, the risk to teachers is insanely low. Yet my 2nd grader's teacher today told her class that she doesn't want to return to school but that APS is making her. Putting aside that this was completely inappropriate information to tell to second graders, where is this fear coming from? She's young and healthy and vaccinated. Elementary is completely cohorted. She doesn't have to do concurrent learning. And her hybrid class is small enough to fit in a single classroom. Why are all these vaccinated teachers so afraid? The data is amazing. These vaccines work terrifically well, with strong efficacy starting shortly after the first dose. I just don't understand.

Is she afraid, or is she just enjoying WFH?

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Who cares? Tell her boss and be done with this. Do not liken her to “teachers” in general.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they're terrified because they see that the well-behaved kids are all planning to stay DL and all the troublemakers will be returning to class.

Troublemakers? In America's nerdiest, most risk averse, rules-following county?

Loudon County has lots of nerds?

it's Loudoun.

So that’s a yes.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand, either. I don't understand why a parent, after hearing one young, inexperienced teacher talk to one 2nd grade class in APS, would assume that ALL APS teachers are "terrified."

If you have a complaint about this teacher scaring 2nd graders, take it up with the AP or principal. But FFS, do not assume that all teachers are in agreement with this teacher.

Have you seen the social media posts and the teachers speaking at school board meetings? It may not be all, but there is a large cohort who expects significant numbers of teachers and their family members to die within a week of reopening.

It’s like the same five people.

They aren't really afraid of dying within a week of reopening. They just don't want to deal with the hassle of actually leaving their houses and getting to their places of employment.

It’s going to be such a bummer for you when this is all over and your gripes will need to get more creative.

I’m a teacher and I have to say, there is a kernel of truth to PP’s statement. I have several colleagues who are largely irritated to be back. Not because they feel unsafe. But because home was convenient and they don’t see this amount of kids as worth going in. I hate to say it and it’s not the MAJORITY. But this is true in some cases. Most of us , once we hit the vaccine we were good to go and happy to return. The ones still pushing back on a return have different reasons but this definitely one of them.

I'm glad teachers can get vaccinated, but am still frustrated that there are teachers who don't want to return when there is a vaccine that they have priority for. My federal agency returned to work ages ago without a vaccine. Our solution for social distancing involves shift schedules that start at 4am. I get to do this then come home and take over classroom proctoring.

You might work at the same place as my spouse. 4am shift. He won't get the vaccine for months, probably.

This is one of the many reasons parents are furious that many teachers don't want to return. Many people didn't have a choice, couldn't advocate for HEPA filters before returning, weren't able to get a vaccine, etc etc. They either went back to work or were forced to quit. The educational system has been so different for reasons I can't understand.

But that guy DOES have a choice. And he chose to begin work at 4 am. I begin work at 5 am. And then I, too, switch shifts in the schoolroom with my spouse. I'm not grousing about it at all. Seems like this guy is a complainer and a whiner.

The posts didn't say anyone chose a 4 AM shift, it said the solution "involved 4 am shifts." These workers had to return, unvaccinated, and we have no idea whether they had their pick of shifts, were assigned, or had to compromise with others to maintain coverage. I feel like some of these posts implying that everyone else has more options than teachers are bordering on ridiculousness.

My heart breaks for those people. However, I know plenty of federal workers that are working from home and have wanted schools open since CoVID first happened. Whatever... this is over now.

Wow almost like the federal government is a massive employer with workers in all different kinds of jobs. The Capitol police officers are federal employees. So are the secret service. So are the FDA folks working on vaccines. So are some of the National Mall groundskeepers. So are all the lawyers on DCUM who are working from home saying they can live "perfectly comfortably" on a mere $300k.

That is like saying "ok so I get that nurses in covid wards took a lot of risks during the pandemic, but my kid's speech therapist is still doing telehealth." ....Ok? People have different jobs?

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they're terrified because they see that the well-behaved kids are all planning to stay DL and all the troublemakers will be returning to class.

Troublemakers? In America's nerdiest, most risk averse, rules-following county?

Loudon County has lots of nerds?

it's Loudoun.

Every school has trouble makers. This is a ridiculous little supposition.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they're terrified because they see that the well-behaved kids are all planning to stay DL and all the troublemakers will be returning to class.

In my son’s K class they just said goodbye to the kids who are switching to a new class to stay virtual. The entire lowest group (4 kids) - the ones who still can’t count to 50 and don’t know all their letters - are staying virtual. The remaining class will actually be easier to manage now. Unfortunate but true.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they're terrified because they see that the well-behaved kids are all planning to stay DL and all the troublemakers will be returning to class.

In my son’s K class they just said goodbye to the kids who are switching to a new class to stay virtual. The entire lowest group (4 kids) - the ones who still can’t count to 50 and don’t know all their letters - are staying virtual. The remaining class will actually be easier to manage now. Unfortunate but true.

I say this as both teacher and mom, it is really write that you know who the lowest 4 in your kids’ class are. I’m just stunned any of you know this much about all your kid’s peers.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they're terrified because they see that the well-behaved kids are all planning to stay DL and all the troublemakers will be returning to class.

In my son’s K class they just said goodbye to the kids who are switching to a new class to stay virtual. The entire lowest group (4 kids) - the ones who still can’t count to 50 and don’t know all their letters - are staying virtual. The remaining class will actually be easier to manage now. Unfortunate but true.

I say this as both teacher and mom, it is really write that you know who the lowest 4 in your kids’ class are. I’m just stunned any of you know this much about all your kid’s peers.

Agreed!

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they're terrified because they see that the well-behaved kids are all planning to stay DL and all the troublemakers will be returning to class.

In my son’s K class they just said goodbye to the kids who are switching to a new class to stay virtual. The entire lowest group (4 kids) - the ones who still can’t count to 50 and don’t know all their letters - are staying virtual. The remaining class will actually be easier to manage now. Unfortunate but true.

I say this as both teacher and mom, it is really write that you know who the lowest 4 in your kids’ class are. I’m just stunned any of you know this much about all your kid’s peers.

Agreed!

I wouldn’t normally, but my kid has been going to Kindergarten on an iPad while I sit in the same room trying to work since September. It’s hard not to notice who needs the most help and who is being grouped together. If they had been in school I would have no idea. I look forward to not overhearing 1st grade and beyond.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they're terrified because they see that the well-behaved kids are all planning to stay DL and all the troublemakers will be returning to class.

In my son’s K class they just said goodbye to the kids who are switching to a new class to stay virtual. The entire lowest group (4 kids) - the ones who still can’t count to 50 and don’t know all their letters - are staying virtual. The remaining class will actually be easier to manage now. Unfortunate but true.

I say this as both teacher and mom, it is really write that you know who the lowest 4 in your kids’ class are. I’m just stunned any of you know this much about all your kid’s peers.

Agreed!

I wouldn’t normally, but my kid has been going to Kindergarten on an iPad while I sit in the same room trying to work since September. It’s hard not to notice who needs the most help and who is being grouped together. If they had been in school I would have no idea. I look forward to not overhearing 1st grade and beyond.

Your kid didn’t wear headphones? You were “working” while also paying close enough attention to know which 4 kids can’t count to 50? Come on.