Why are millennials hated and zoomers loved?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I go with the theory that Gen X hates those that came after them (Millennials). Meanwhile, Zoomers are the progeny of Gen X are beloved by them.

Zoomers are not much different from younger Millennials. Zoomers are all over social media - TikTok, YouTube, etc.

No gen x I know hates millennials. Its a weird persecution thing.

No. We do. Hate is strong but we are annoyed at how you don't like to pay your dues, and yet you lack the skills to make yourself useful/promotable.

And you get personally offended when we correct/edit you at work, whereas Genx ate a ton of shit. So maybe we admire you in the abstract for being so entitled -- but you're really annoying to work with.

One millennial co-worker actually cried to our boss that she was having an underperforming year because she. . . . got a puppy. And it was sooo much harder than she thought it would be. And our boss is a cancer survivor with kids and aging parers to look after.

( I do love me some Zoomers though)

So you have one millennial coworker who is annoying and from that you generalize about an entire generation. That makes sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Younger Boomer who still works and part of it is the younger people have never really had to work.

Pretty much I can say around early 1990s real work stopped.

I think automation and everyone having a college degree was real cause. I recall at 23 I had a staff of 40 people. Wore a suit to work, was in office every day 8-7:30 pm.

By 33 I was sitting in a cube in dress down working basically 9-5.

We had so much stress and work to get done when I was 23 we had someone commit suicide off our roof and flew by our office window and no one looked up or went to window. I actually had someone at work arrested in handcuffs at desk due to some warrant, no one looked up.

a few older Gen x saw tail end, but pretty much folks who graduated college after 1995 never saw real work so hard to respect as no war stories

As an Xer, I have no idea what you are talking about. I remember being handed a pager and luggable 10lb "laptop" after I graduated with the expectation that I be available anytime management wanted to work. The equipment changed over the years, but the expectations haven't. 24/7 access and work is what's expected now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Younger Boomer who still works and part of it is the younger people have never really had to work.

Pretty much I can say around early 1990s real work stopped.

I think automation and everyone having a college degree was real cause. I recall at 23 I had a staff of 40 people. Wore a suit to work, was in office every day 8-7:30 pm.

By 33 I was sitting in a cube in dress down working basically 9-5.

We had so much stress and work to get done when I was 23 we had someone commit suicide off our roof and flew by our office window and no one looked up or went to window. I actually had someone at work arrested in handcuffs at desk due to some warrant, no one looked up.

a few older Gen x saw tail end, but pretty much folks who graduated college after 1995 never saw real work so hard to respect as no war stories

As an Xer, I have no idea what you are talking about. I remember being handed a pager and luggable 10lb "laptop" after I graduated with the expectation that I be available anytime management wanted to work. The equipment changed over the years, but the expectations haven't. 24/7 access and work is what's expected now.

Yep. The advent of technology that allows management to reach employees at all hours means employees are expected to be available at all hours.

[Anonymous]

Also: was that suicide story supposed to be evidence of a work environment you’d like to return to?

[Anonymous]

I am sooooo sick of these labels.

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Anonymous wrote:I find the last few posts endearingly naive, and kind of cute for it. Please mentally bookmark it for late. You’ll know when to dig it out.

Naive how? Again, plenty of us are in our 30s and completely functional adults with spouses and kids. What about the observations we made is naive?

Oh most of it is spot on, but the ageism if off base to be sure. I feel for you having no privacy to screw off when younger in particular. Saying adults 15-20 years older than you have no savvy or discernment is going to bite you in time.

While I see how it may present as ageism, it’s a well-studied phenomenon that boomers are many times more likely than younger generations to share misinformation online.

Absolutely. I see that. But it’s not universal. It’s important to interact with individuals and not go by studies. The generalizations are super problematic. Life is not just tech and statistics.

do you take this final position for all research or just the research with findings you dont like

I’m sorry, what are you being hypervigilant about now?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Younger Boomer who still works and part of it is the younger people have never really had to work.

Pretty much I can say around early 1990s real work stopped.

I think automation and everyone having a college degree was real cause. I recall at 23 I had a staff of 40 people. Wore a suit to work, was in office every day 8-7:30 pm.

By 33 I was sitting in a cube in dress down working basically 9-5.

We had so much stress and work to get done when I was 23 we had someone commit suicide off our roof and flew by our office window and no one looked up or went to window. I actually had someone at work arrested in handcuffs at desk due to some warrant, no one looked up.

a few older Gen x saw tail end, but pretty much folks who graduated college after 1995 never saw real work so hard to respect as no war stories

As an Xer, I have no idea what you are talking about. I remember being handed a pager and luggable 10lb "laptop" after I graduated with the expectation that I be available anytime management wanted to work. The equipment changed over the years, but the expectations haven't. 24/7 access and work is what's expected now.

I was available in person a lot harder. I once worked 40 days in a row. I felt like ground hogs day. Saturday and Sunday in office from 8-2 pm then M to F 8-10 pm. I did not even have a computer on my desk at work let alone home. I was managing 40 people who were headaches. Breaking up fights, lugging equipment, reviewing reports, huge printouts. We often had folks sleep in chair.

My company had 18,000 employees and 20 years later had 40,000 and processing less work. Why well 9-5 and WFH need double the people. My staff had time sheets and they would hit 40 hours in Wed.

I don’t want to go back. We had a few suicides at work. One was a client who took elevator to top floor and jumped. We also had one die in vault. Suffocation.

My boss has multiple confirmed kills in Vietnam and was a bit unhinged. We also had wwii vets and some Jewish coworkers who were in concentration camps.

It was a bunch of jacked up folks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Younger Boomer who still works and part of it is the younger people have never really had to work.

Pretty much I can say around early 1990s real work stopped.

I think automation and everyone having a college degree was real cause. I recall at 23 I had a staff of 40 people. Wore a suit to work, was in office every day 8-7:30 pm.

By 33 I was sitting in a cube in dress down working basically 9-5.

We had so much stress and work to get done when I was 23 we had someone commit suicide off our roof and flew by our office window and no one looked up or went to window. I actually had someone at work arrested in handcuffs at desk due to some warrant, no one looked up.

a few older Gen x saw tail end, but pretty much folks who graduated college after 1995 never saw real work so hard to respect as no war stories

As an Xer, I have no idea what you are talking about. I remember being handed a pager and luggable 10lb "laptop" after I graduated with the expectation that I be available anytime management wanted to work. The equipment changed over the years, but the expectations haven't. 24/7 access and work is what's expected now.

I was available in person a lot harder. I once worked 40 days in a row. I felt like ground hogs day. Saturday and Sunday in office from 8-2 pm then M to F 8-10 pm. I did not even have a computer on my desk at work let alone home. I was managing 40 people who were headaches. Breaking up fights, lugging equipment, reviewing reports, huge printouts. We often had folks sleep in chair.

My company had 18,000 employees and 20 years later had 40,000 and processing less work. Why well 9-5 and WFH need double the people. My staff had time sheets and they would hit 40 hours in Wed.

I don’t want to go back. We had a few suicides at work. One was a client who took elevator to top floor and jumped. We also had one die in vault. Suffocation.

My boss has multiple confirmed kills in Vietnam and was a bit unhinged. We also had wwii vets and some Jewish coworkers who were in concentration camps.

It was a bunch of jacked up folks

I think the issue here is your experience isn’t tracking with the conversation. It sounds intense, but there is no message.

[Anonymous]

Edit. Clear message.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Younger Boomer who still works and part of it is the younger people have never really had to work.

Pretty much I can say around early 1990s real work stopped.

I think automation and everyone having a college degree was real cause. I recall at 23 I had a staff of 40 people. Wore a suit to work, was in office every day 8-7:30 pm.

By 33 I was sitting in a cube in dress down working basically 9-5.

We had so much stress and work to get done when I was 23 we had someone commit suicide off our roof and flew by our office window and no one looked up or went to window. I actually had someone at work arrested in handcuffs at desk due to some warrant, no one looked up.

a few older Gen x saw tail end, but pretty much folks who graduated college after 1995 never saw real work so hard to respect as no war stories

As an Xer, I have no idea what you are talking about. I remember being handed a pager and luggable 10lb "laptop" after I graduated with the expectation that I be available anytime management wanted to work. The equipment changed over the years, but the expectations haven't. 24/7 access and work is what's expected now.

I was available in person a lot harder. I once worked 40 days in a row. I felt like ground hogs day. Saturday and Sunday in office from 8-2 pm then M to F 8-10 pm. I did not even have a computer on my desk at work let alone home. I was managing 40 people who were headaches. Breaking up fights, lugging equipment, reviewing reports, huge printouts. We often had folks sleep in chair.

My company had 18,000 employees and 20 years later had 40,000 and processing less work. Why well 9-5 and WFH need double the people. My staff had time sheets and they would hit 40 hours in Wed.

I don’t want to go back. We had a few suicides at work. One was a client who took elevator to top floor and jumped. We also had one die in vault. Suffocation.

My boss has multiple confirmed kills in Vietnam and was a bit unhinged. We also had wwii vets and some Jewish coworkers who were in concentration camps.

It was a bunch of jacked up folks

Yes I'm a Millennial and well aware of the in-office at all costs Boomer workers. We have no desire to emulate this type of work including the heart attack/stroke at 45.

[Anonymous]

So what age range are the Zoomers? Is my 10yo a Zoomer? If so, most Zoomers are children, accounting for the positive feelings toward them. Though I know advertisers has been studying the Millennials since elementary school.

[Anonymous]

*have been

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So what age range are the Zoomers? Is my 10yo a Zoomer? If so, most Zoomers are children, accounting for the positive feelings toward them. Though I know advertisers has been studying the Millennials since elementary school.

Advertisers have been studying kids since the 1950s at least. Not at all new.

Zoomers are between about 10 and 25. Kids younger than 10 are Generation Alpha.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So what age range are the Zoomers? Is my 10yo a Zoomer? If so, most Zoomers are children, accounting for the positive feelings toward them. Though I know advertisers has been studying the Millennials since elementary school.

I mentioned this above. The oldest Zoomers are about 23 years old, which is just entering the workplace. I think it remains to be seen how feelings towards them shift. Most people griping about Millennials are complaining about how they are in the workplace. We don't really know what Zooms will be like to work with. Younger Millennials and Zoomers are the first to be true digital natives, so I expect the tech-related complaints from Boomers won't stop anytime soon.

[Anonymous]

Mom always liked you best.