Why are millennials hated and zoomers loved?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m gen-X (mid 70s). I know many hyper successful millennials. I envy their sense of self, good relationships with their parents, and nice homes. Hopefully one day I’ll catch up!


+1

They be smart AF. Not sneaky, but smart. BIG difference.


And HARD working. They have had success earlier in life. It’s amazing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My theory is that Millennials are at the age where they think they know everything. But unlike past generations who were taught to mostly show respect to people older than them, Millennials were taught to be vocal and that they can do no wrong. As a result, I see Millennials saying things that come across as both obnoxious and ultimately oblivious.



Ma’am, the age where you think you know everything is 16. Millennials are almost in their forties.


Seriously. I’m a millennial. I’m 34. My husband is 35. We have already bought and sold a house. We put $100K in renovations into our current home. We have a kid. My husband is a marketing exec and I’m a federal government analyst; we make $350K combined.

But sure — we’re basically oblivious 23 year olds.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think millennials got screwed and people keep gaslighting them. They were told go to college, follow your dreams, you can do anything, blah blah blah, and then they graduated with crushing student loan debt during a recession. So they are stuck with crappy jobs and too much debt after being told their whole lives they would do well following their dreams.

Millennials were given hope and got burned, Gen Z never had hope.


+1

PP Gen X here. Totally agree - sold a bad bill of goods - in plain sight!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My theory is that Millennials are at the age where they think they know everything. But unlike past generations who were taught to mostly show respect to people older than them, Millennials were taught to be vocal and that they can do no wrong. As a result, I see Millennials saying things that come across as both obnoxious and ultimately oblivious.


Most old people I know aren't even grateful. Of some I know (for example): Their spouse served in the military, they got out of their hellhole home town, got to see the world, got set up in old age, got homeownership (sometimes 2 or 3 properties!), no threat of poverty, but grateful? Nope. They know everything? Sit down. If they showed humility or gratefulness, I would feel differently.


Did I mention pension??? Geesus. We'll never, ever see that!
Anonymous
Stereotypes, I guess. We had a training on intergenerational communications at work. One of the “situations” to work through was the younger employees (Millennials, really, not too many Zoomers in workplace yet) reluctant to sign up for mandatory in person training because they are digital natives and it doesn’t fit their communications preferences. If HR doesn’t think this example is problematic, what am I to think?

Although, as a Gen X, I find the premise impossible to comprehend. If a training is mandatory, it must be done because of some law or legal precedent out there. It’s not done for my benefit and I am getting paid to attend, so who cares what my preferences are.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My theory is that Millennials are at the age where they think they know everything. But unlike past generations who were taught to mostly show respect to people older than them, Millennials were taught to be vocal and that they can do no wrong. As a result, I see Millennials saying things that come across as both obnoxious and ultimately oblivious.



Ma’am, the age where you think you know everything is 16. Millennials are almost in their forties.


That made me laugh. Millennials are between 22 - 38. The most know-it-all age group is from about 22 - 30. I'm the poster who is 40 and has these people reporting to me. I'll take ma'am, though not a single report of mine would think of calling me that. They are too busy making sure they know better than everyone in the office.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think millennials got screwed and people keep gaslighting them. They were told go to college, follow your dreams, you can do anything, blah blah blah, and then they graduated with crushing student loan debt during a recession. So they are stuck with crappy jobs and too much debt after being told their whole lives they would do well following their dreams.

Millennials were given hope and got burned, Gen Z never had hope.


+1

PP Gen X here. Totally agree - sold a bad bill of goods - in plain sight!


Yep. I graduated from college directly into the financial crisis (which the Boomers caused— thanks!). We were told we should expect to go to college, pay for it, and get a decent job easily, by a bunch of people who had access to union jobs and cheap college tuition — both of which barely exist anymore.

When we pointed that out, we were told, “STFU snowflake!”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Zoomers or boomers?

Boomers are seen as selfish, former hippie "I got mine (to hell with you)" types. They ruined the planet. Hypocirtes who were all for "peace", then flipped as long as they can collect their social security.

Gen X were latchkey kids, fending for themselves, while both their parents worked hard and often - as Gen X will do.

Millenials are going to change the world for the better, I have no problem with them. They are educated and speak out, for the better.

My beef is with the "Greatest" generation - who are oblivious. They are reaping all the benefits of economy flukes and timing, while not paying it forward, but feeling supremely entitled. They bought a house for nothing ($30k in the hot areas in 1963), but think Gen X is "rich" for buying a house (at today's prices), without any help. Eff that. No one gave Gen X anything, for the most part.

Rich people, with generational wealth, also do not have my sympathy.



Gen X here.
Are we to believe that the “greatest generation” didn’t work hard? I doubt WW2 was easy for them. Also, $30K in the 1930s and 1940s was a ton of money.


It may have been a ton of money back then- but relative to wage, that generation did FAR better than ANY other. Period.

I have family who lost everything (everything) in WWII - so your choice of discussion is ill aimed.

Greatest Generation is technically 1902-1927 - are you misquoting, PP?

1928-1945 was most of our parents, it was the "Silent Generation" - rightfully so. FAR fewer SAHMs than the "Greatest" Generation, in my world.

I know what my parents went through,, and my grandparents, and my great grand parents, first hand.





I'm confused by your argument that my discussion is "ill aimed." I'm genuinely sorry your family lost so much, but I don't see how that relates to my statement that the greatest generation worked hard.

Our parents were the silent generation; you are correct. They weren't the ones suffering through the war though. Those were the members of the Greatest generation, who were old enough to serve.
Anonymous
I’ll be back for page 7.

Anonymous
Gen Xer here and I can assure you that 99% of everyone here sucks.
Here’s my take on how I feel about the various generations:
Boomers: whatever
GenX: ehhh
Millennials: who cares
Zoomers: who gives a f
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Zoomers or boomers?

Boomers are seen as selfish, former hippie "I got mine (to hell with you)" types. They ruined the planet. Hypocirtes who were all for "peace", then flipped as long as they can collect their social security.

Gen X were latchkey kids, fending for themselves, while both their parents worked hard and often - as Gen X will do.

Millenials are going to change the world for the better, I have no problem with them. They are educated and speak out, for the better.

My beef is with the "Greatest" generation - who are oblivious. They are reaping all the benefits of economy flukes and timing, while not paying it forward, but feeling supremely entitled. They bought a house for nothing ($30k in the hot areas in 1963), but think Gen X is "rich" for buying a house (at today's prices), without any help. Eff that. No one gave Gen X anything, for the most part.

Rich people, with generational wealth, also do not have my sympathy.



Gen X here.
Are we to believe that the “greatest generation” didn’t work hard? I doubt WW2 was easy for them. Also, $30K in the 1930s and 1940s was a ton of money.


It may have been a ton of money back then- but relative to wage, that generation did FAR better than ANY other. Period.

I have family who lost everything (everything) in WWII - so your choice of discussion is ill aimed.

Greatest Generation is technically 1902-1927 - are you misquoting, PP?

1928-1945 was most of our parents, it was the "Silent Generation" - rightfully so. FAR fewer SAHMs than the "Greatest" Generation, in my world.

I know what my parents went through,, and my grandparents, and my great grand parents, first hand.





I'm confused by your argument that my discussion is "ill aimed." I'm genuinely sorry your family lost so much, but I don't see how that relates to my statement that the greatest generation worked hard.

Our parents were the silent generation; you are correct. They weren't the ones suffering through the war though. Those were the members of the Greatest generation, who were old enough to serve.


Nope. My parents, during the WWII years, lost everything.

The Greatest Generation benefitted from so many things that we will never see, pensions and fewer necessity for working moms being just two of them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Gen Xer here and I can assure you that 99% of everyone here sucks.
Here’s my take on how I feel about the various generations:
Boomers: whatever
GenX: ehhh
Millennials: who cares
Zoomers: who gives a f


+1

Well, yeah. But that is a different post.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think millennials got screwed and people keep gaslighting them. They were told go to college, follow your dreams, you can do anything, blah blah blah, and then they graduated with crushing student loan debt during a recession. So they are stuck with crappy jobs and too much debt after being told their whole lives they would do well following their dreams.

Millennials were given hope and got burned, Gen Z never had hope.


+1

PP Gen X here. Totally agree - sold a bad bill of goods - in plain sight!


Yep. I graduated from college directly into the financial crisis (which the Boomers caused— thanks!). We were told we should expect to go to college, pay for it, and get a decent job easily, by a bunch of people who had access to union jobs and cheap college tuition — both of which barely exist anymore.

When we pointed that out, we were told, “STFU snowflake!”


+1

Gex X here. MF yes! Preach it but good!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Gen Xer here and I can assure you that 99% of everyone here sucks.
Here’s my take on how I feel about the various generations:
Boomers: whatever
GenX: ehhh
Millennials: who cares
Zoomers: who gives a f


Im a millennial and I can confirm that this is how most Gen Xs feel about the issue.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Stereotypes, I guess. We had a training on intergenerational communications at work. One of the “situations” to work through was the younger employees (Millennials, really, not too many Zoomers in workplace yet) reluctant to sign up for mandatory in person training because they are digital natives and it doesn’t fit their communications preferences. If HR doesn’t think this example is problematic, what am I to think?

Although, as a Gen X, I find the premise impossible to comprehend. If a training is mandatory, it must be done because of some law or legal precedent out there. It’s not done for my benefit and I am getting paid to attend, so who cares what my preferences are.


Ah, this should be the GenX slogan. (Another Xer here)
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