Schools back in-person in 2022 due to mass-vaccine

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DS starts kindergarten next year and we are looking at parochial schools pretty seriously. I have no faith that public schools will be open here.

Heck my cousin postponed her wedding from Sept 2020 to Sept 2021 (in NE) and contrary to most of my relatives, I doubt that will happen either. I don’t see spring style shutdowns again, but I think we are largely in a holding pattern until not only widespread vaccine distribution, but until it really kicks in and brings down rates significantly.


I agree with this.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Pfizer is expanding their trial to kids 12 and up. Previously at 16.


I want to preface my statement by saying that I am glad the drug companies are working on finding a vaccine. But, wow, what parents are putting their kids into these trials? It seems so mind bogglingly unsafe to me. I want a vaccine but I want a little more work and testing with animals first.

I have two guesses: 1) certain foster parents 2) bleeding hearts, kind of like people who enroll their kids into GS2 schools for equity reasons


So caring about other people beyond your own kids makes you a "bleeding heart," as opposed to being selfish and focused only on yourself and your own kids which is apparently considered totally fine and acceptable these days?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:New Trier HS reclosed 5 days after reopening. IL is getting slammed by COVID. See the Chicago Tribune article.


If you believe the exaggerations of the article, I guess you could say 122 cases per 100k people is "getting slammed". Interesting though that nobody is reporting on hospitalizations or deaths. Why do you think that is? Is it because people below 40 years old have an almost 0% chance of dying from COVID?


Um, yeah, over 100 cases per 100K per day is definitely getting slammed. That's basically infecting 1% of your whole population every week! And hospitalizations and deaths lag case numbers so they don't get reported right away, but they start going up predictably a few weeks later...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New Trier HS reclosed 5 days after reopening. IL is getting slammed by COVID. See the Chicago Tribune article.


If you believe the exaggerations of the article, I guess you could say 122 cases per 100k people is "getting slammed". Interesting though that nobody is reporting on hospitalizations or deaths. Why do you think that is? Is it because people below 40 years old have an almost 0% chance of dying from COVID?


Um, yeah, over 100 cases per 100K per day is definitely getting slammed. That's basically infecting 1% of your whole population every week! And hospitalizations and deaths lag case numbers so they don't get reported right away, but they start going up predictably a few weeks later...


I'm solidly in the reopen schools camp, but I agree, 122 cases per 100k is crazy high.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New Trier HS reclosed 5 days after reopening. IL is getting slammed by COVID. See the Chicago Tribune article.


If you believe the exaggerations of the article, I guess you could say 122 cases per 100k people is "getting slammed". Interesting though that nobody is reporting on hospitalizations or deaths. Why do you think that is? Is it because people below 40 years old have an almost 0% chance of dying from COVID?


Um, yeah, over 100 cases per 100K per day is definitely getting slammed. That's basically infecting 1% of your whole population every week! And hospitalizations and deaths lag case numbers so they don't get reported right away, but they start going up predictably a few weeks later...


I'm solidly in the reopen schools camp, but I agree, 122 cases per 100k is crazy high.


is it really crazy high though? there is NO context given for that number with regards to number of tests performed.

~50% more daily tests are performed today than on September 1.
Anonymous
November 1st in 30 minutes. I expect my household’s Covid vaccine at my doorstep before then.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:“After approvals there will be the hurdles of mass production.” No- mass production is happening now. The hurdles to getting that started were eradicated when the government and pharmaceutical companies themselves decided to take the financial risk of manufacture before approval.

The manufacturers leading the pack anticipate enough doses to vaccinate every American by summer of 2021. Approval is imminent, and frontline workers will be first in line.

Get out of here with late 2022 bs.


There are so many assumptions in your statements.
You assume that the vaccines will work. Big assumption.
Second, you assume that any immunity will be long-lasting. Another big assumption.

This is so, so complicated.

But school can return in person if everyone masksup and we do a gradual phasing in of schools so social distancing could take place.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I've been saying this for months. Big public schools aren't going back until 2022-23 in the DC area. The "until zero deaths / vaccine" position taken by the unions means 2022-23 earliest.

I think some schools will pretend it will be earlier, but that's just posturing and theatrics.

I think if you want in-person school, you have to move or go to private.


Only in America.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been saying this for months. Big public schools aren't going back until 2022-23 in the DC area. The "until zero deaths / vaccine" position taken by the unions means 2022-23 earliest.

I think some schools will pretend it will be earlier, but that's just posturing and theatrics.

I think if you want in-person school, you have to move or go to private.


Only in America.


LOL Europe is shutting down as we speak. All of the U.K. is now on lockdown as of tonight. Their case load is astronomical as well and quite a bit of the spread is attributable to schools, so they'll have to close them down again.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pfizer is expanding their trial to kids 12 and up. Previously at 16.


I want to preface my statement by saying that I am glad the drug companies are working on finding a vaccine. But, wow, what parents are putting their kids into these trials? It seems so mind bogglingly unsafe to me. I want a vaccine but I want a little more work and testing with animals first.

I have two guesses: 1) certain foster parents 2) bleeding hearts, kind of like people who enroll their kids into GS2 schools for equity reasons


So caring about other people beyond your own kids makes you a "bleeding heart," as opposed to being selfish and focused only on yourself and your own kids which is apparently considered totally fine and acceptable these days?


I would never sacrifice my kid. Ever.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been saying this for months. Big public schools aren't going back until 2022-23 in the DC area. The "until zero deaths / vaccine" position taken by the unions means 2022-23 earliest.

I think some schools will pretend it will be earlier, but that's just posturing and theatrics.

I think if you want in-person school, you have to move or go to private.


Only in America.


LOL Europe is shutting down as we speak. All of the U.K. is now on lockdown as of tonight. Their case load is astronomical as well and quite a bit of the spread is attributable to schools, so they'll have to close them down again.



And this is a quote from the UK government website on the specifics of the lockdown:

The Government will continue to prioritise the wellbeing and long-term futures of our young people and will not be closing schools, colleges or universities. It remains very important for children and young people to attend, to support their wellbeing and education and help working parents and guardians
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been saying this for months. Big public schools aren't going back until 2022-23 in the DC area. The "until zero deaths / vaccine" position taken by the unions means 2022-23 earliest.

I think some schools will pretend it will be earlier, but that's just posturing and theatrics.

I think if you want in-person school, you have to move or go to private.


Only in America.


LOL Europe is shutting down as we speak. All of the U.K. is now on lockdown as of tonight. Their case load is astronomical as well and quite a bit of the spread is attributable to schools, so they'll have to close them down again.



And this is a quote from the UK government website on the specifics of the lockdown:

The Government will continue to prioritise the wellbeing and long-term futures of our young people and will not be closing schools, colleges or universities. It remains very important for children and young people to attend, to support their wellbeing and education and help working parents and guardians


This is the same government that f**ked up A-levels. Johnson U-turns like a yo-yo. He didn't even want this lockdown.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pfizer is expanding their trial to kids 12 and up. Previously at 16.


I want to preface my statement by saying that I am glad the drug companies are working on finding a vaccine. But, wow, what parents are putting their kids into these trials? It seems so mind bogglingly unsafe to me. I want a vaccine but I want a little more work and testing with animals first.

I have two guesses: 1) certain foster parents 2) bleeding hearts, kind of like people who enroll their kids into GS2 schools for equity reasons


So caring about other people beyond your own kids makes you a "bleeding heart," as opposed to being selfish and focused only on yourself and your own kids which is apparently considered totally fine and acceptable these days?


I would never sacrifice my kid. Ever.


+1
Anonymous
Has anyone pointed out that none of these are pediatric vaccines? We don't know WHEN we're getting a pediatric vaccine.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pfizer is expanding their trial to kids 12 and up. Previously at 16.


I want to preface my statement by saying that I am glad the drug companies are working on finding a vaccine. But, wow, what parents are putting their kids into these trials? It seems so mind bogglingly unsafe to me. I want a vaccine but I want a little more work and testing with animals first.

I have two guesses: 1) certain foster parents 2) bleeding hearts, kind of like people who enroll their kids into GS2 schools for equity reasons


So caring about other people beyond your own kids makes you a "bleeding heart," as opposed to being selfish and focused only on yourself and your own kids which is apparently considered totally fine and acceptable these days?


I would never sacrifice my kid. Ever.


+1


You know these are probably the same people who like to call others selfish.
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