Overrated schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Amherst might be considered overrated.

Not overrated, it's just the masses don't really care about SLACs. And those that do care about liberal arts college rankings are really not the families they're catering to.

[Anonymous]

All the non-Ivies ranked 10-20 on US News are pretty overrated e.g. Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, WashU, Hopkins. Nobody really cares about those schools. They're fine but nothing to obsess over and they churn out plenty of "meh" undergrads every year. It's not like Northwestern or Emory are lottery tickets, but that's how some lunatic tiger moms act.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is one of the worst, most ill-informed thread I've ever seen on DCUM.

+1,000,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All the non-Ivies ranked 10-20 on US News are pretty overrated e.g. Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, WashU, Hopkins. Nobody really cares about those schools. They're fine but nothing to obsess over and they churn out plenty of "meh" undergrads every year. It's not like Northwestern or Emory are lottery tickets, but that's how some lunatic tiger moms act.

This is very much true, which makes it confusing as to why so many are obsessed with these schools based on their top 20-ish ranking.

These privates are pretty much regionally prestigious at most. In the upper Midwest, Northwestern is somewhat prestigious perhaps. Outside, not many people care about it. Frankly, I feel the same way about U. Chicago, which gets a lot of undue cachet due to its recent association with Obama - who was a lecturer, not a professor.

In the lower midwest, perhaps Washington University is somewhat prestigious. Maryland for Hopkins. South/Appalachia for Vanderbilt, perhaps. Ironically Georgetown may be the most "prestigious throughout the mid-Atlantic/Northeast due to its association as a school for prep school kids who couldn't get into the Ivies.

This regional prestige is also true for Ivies like Dartmouth and Brown, but their reputation as Ivies does carry some cachet throughout the country/world, even if unjustifiably so

These universities may have some fields that are very well known nationwide/worldwide within those in the know about the field such as academics i.e. pre-med at Hopkins, international relations and investment banking/consulting recruiting at Georgetown, Economics at U. Chicago, investment banking at Dartmouth, etc. etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the non-Ivies ranked 10-20 on US News are pretty overrated e.g. Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, WashU, Hopkins. Nobody really cares about those schools. They're fine but nothing to obsess over and they churn out plenty of "meh" undergrads every year. It's not like Northwestern or Emory are lottery tickets, but that's how some lunatic tiger moms act.

This is very much true, which makes it confusing as to why so many are obsessed with these schools based on their top 20-ish ranking.

These privates are pretty much regionally prestigious at most. In the upper Midwest, Northwestern is somewhat prestigious perhaps. Outside, not many people care about it. Frankly, I feel the same way about U. Chicago, which gets a lot of undue cachet due to its recent association with Obama - who was a lecturer, not a professor.

In the lower midwest, perhaps Washington University is somewhat prestigious. Maryland for Hopkins. South/Appalachia for Vanderbilt, perhaps. Ironically Georgetown may be the most "prestigious throughout the mid-Atlantic/Northeast due to its association as a school for prep school kids who couldn't get into the Ivies.

This regional prestige is also true for Ivies like Dartmouth and Brown, but their reputation as Ivies does carry some cachet throughout the country/world, even if unjustifiably so

These universities may have some fields that are very well known nationwide/worldwide within those in the know about the field such as academics i.e. pre-med at Hopkins, international relations and investment banking/consulting recruiting at Georgetown, Economics at U. Chicago, investment banking at Dartmouth, etc. etc.

You have typed a lot of words. Congrats on that.

Now if only they made a salient point, you would have a win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the non-Ivies ranked 10-20 on US News are pretty overrated e.g. Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, WashU, Hopkins. Nobody really cares about those schools. They're fine but nothing to obsess over and they churn out plenty of "meh" undergrads every year. It's not like Northwestern or Emory are lottery tickets, but that's how some lunatic tiger moms act.

This is very much true, which makes it confusing as to why so many are obsessed with these schools based on their top 20-ish ranking.

These privates are pretty much regionally prestigious at most. In the upper Midwest, Northwestern is somewhat prestigious perhaps. Outside, not many people care about it. Frankly, I feel the same way about U. Chicago, which gets a lot of undue cachet due to its recent association with Obama - who was a lecturer, not a professor.

In the lower midwest, perhaps Washington University is somewhat prestigious. Maryland for Hopkins. South/Appalachia for Vanderbilt, perhaps. Ironically Georgetown may be the most "prestigious throughout the mid-Atlantic/Northeast due to its association as a school for prep school kids who couldn't get into the Ivies.

This regional prestige is also true for Ivies like Dartmouth and Brown, but their reputation as Ivies does carry some cachet throughout the country/world, even if unjustifiably so

These universities may have some fields that are very well known nationwide/worldwide within those in the know about the field such as academics i.e. pre-med at Hopkins, international relations and investment banking/consulting recruiting at Georgetown, Economics at U. Chicago, investment banking at Dartmouth, etc. etc.

Not sure why PP didn’t add Columbia

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the non-Ivies ranked 10-20 on US News are pretty overrated e.g. Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, WashU, Hopkins. Nobody really cares about those schools. They're fine but nothing to obsess over and they churn out plenty of "meh" undergrads every year. It's not like Northwestern or Emory are lottery tickets, but that's how some lunatic tiger moms act.

This is very much true, which makes it confusing as to why so many are obsessed with these schools based on their top 20-ish ranking.

These privates are pretty much regionally prestigious at most. In the upper Midwest, Northwestern is somewhat prestigious perhaps. Outside, not many people care about it. Frankly, I feel the same way about U. Chicago, which gets a lot of undue cachet due to its recent association with Obama - who was a lecturer, not a professor.

In the lower midwest, perhaps Washington University is somewhat prestigious. Maryland for Hopkins. South/Appalachia for Vanderbilt, perhaps. Ironically Georgetown may be the most "prestigious throughout the mid-Atlantic/Northeast due to its association as a school for prep school kids who couldn't get into the Ivies.

This regional prestige is also true for Ivies like Dartmouth and Brown, but their reputation as Ivies does carry some cachet throughout the country/world, even if unjustifiably so

These universities may have some fields that are very well known nationwide/worldwide within those in the know about the field such as academics i.e. pre-med at Hopkins, international relations and investment banking/consulting recruiting at Georgetown, Economics at U. Chicago, investment banking at Dartmouth, etc. etc.

You have typed a lot of words. Congrats on that.

Now if only they made a salient point, you would have a win.

They make the point that you tiger-moming your kid and paying $5,000 for SAT prep classes and then paying $70,000/year so your kid can live in St. Louis is not worth the money or time if they plan to live anywhere outside of the lowest Midwest

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the non-Ivies ranked 10-20 on US News are pretty overrated e.g. Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, WashU, Hopkins. Nobody really cares about those schools. They're fine but nothing to obsess over and they churn out plenty of "meh" undergrads every year. It's not like Northwestern or Emory are lottery tickets, but that's how some lunatic tiger moms act.

This is very much true, which makes it confusing as to why so many are obsessed with these schools based on their top 20-ish ranking.

These privates are pretty much regionally prestigious at most. In the upper Midwest, Northwestern is somewhat prestigious perhaps. Outside, not many people care about it. Frankly, I feel the same way about U. Chicago, which gets a lot of undue cachet due to its recent association with Obama - who was a lecturer, not a professor.

In the lower midwest, perhaps Washington University is somewhat prestigious. Maryland for Hopkins. South/Appalachia for Vanderbilt, perhaps. Ironically Georgetown may be the most "prestigious throughout the mid-Atlantic/Northeast due to its association as a school for prep school kids who couldn't get into the Ivies.

This regional prestige is also true for Ivies like Dartmouth and Brown, but their reputation as Ivies does carry some cachet throughout the country/world, even if unjustifiably so

These universities may have some fields that are very well known nationwide/worldwide within those in the know about the field such as academics i.e. pre-med at Hopkins, international relations and investment banking/consulting recruiting at Georgetown, Economics at U. Chicago, investment banking at Dartmouth, etc. etc.

You have typed a lot of words. Congrats on that.

Now if only they made a salient point, you would have a win.

They make the point that you tiger-moming your kid and paying $5,000 for SAT prep classes and then paying $70,000/year so your kid can live in St. Louis is not worth the money or time if they plan to live anywhere outside of the lowest Midwest

You use a pejorative and then bring in financials. I thought the discussion was about educational qualities?

The idea that Dartmouth and Brown Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Hopkins etc. have "regional" prestige is absolutely ridiculous. No better way to show your ignorance than to assume others are.

In addition, and most importantly, people should encourage their children to attend schools that will prepare them best for the lives they want. Arguing that one "brand identity" is not equal to another is is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

/and yeah I know that's not a proper contextual use of the quotation from Macbeth, my mid-40s ranked private college learn-ded me gud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the non-Ivies ranked 10-20 on US News are pretty overrated e.g. Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, WashU, Hopkins. Nobody really cares about those schools. They're fine but nothing to obsess over and they churn out plenty of "meh" undergrads every year. It's not like Northwestern or Emory are lottery tickets, but that's how some lunatic tiger moms act.

This is very much true, which makes it confusing as to why so many are obsessed with these schools based on their top 20-ish ranking.

These privates are pretty much regionally prestigious at most. In the upper Midwest, Northwestern is somewhat prestigious perhaps. Outside, not many people care about it. Frankly, I feel the same way about U. Chicago, which gets a lot of undue cachet due to its recent association with Obama - who was a lecturer, not a professor.

In the lower midwest, perhaps Washington University is somewhat prestigious. Maryland for Hopkins. South/Appalachia for Vanderbilt, perhaps. Ironically Georgetown may be the most "prestigious throughout the mid-Atlantic/Northeast due to its association as a school for prep school kids who couldn't get into the Ivies.

This regional prestige is also true for Ivies like Dartmouth and Brown, but their reputation as Ivies does carry some cachet throughout the country/world, even if unjustifiably so

These universities may have some fields that are very well known nationwide/worldwide within those in the know about the field such as academics i.e. pre-med at Hopkins, international relations and investment banking/consulting recruiting at Georgetown, Economics at U. Chicago, investment banking at Dartmouth, etc. etc.

You have typed a lot of words. Congrats on that.

Now if only they made a salient point, you would have a win.

They make the point that you tiger-moming your kid and paying $5,000 for SAT prep classes and then paying $70,000/year so your kid can live in St. Louis is not worth the money or time if they plan to live anywhere outside of the lowest Midwest

You use a pejorative and then bring in financials. I thought the discussion was about educational qualities?

The idea that Dartmouth and Brown Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Hopkins etc. have "regional" prestige is absolutely ridiculous. No better way to show your ignorance than to assume others are.

In addition, and most importantly, people should encourage their children to attend schools that will prepare them best for the lives they want. Arguing that one "brand identity" is not equal to another is is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

/and yeah I know that's not a proper contextual use of the quotation from Macbeth, my mid-40s ranked private college learn-ded me gud.

Yeah I was wondering why that tiger mom didn’t include Harvard, Yale, Princeton and Columbia to her list.

[Anonymous]

So, if colleges ranked 10 to 20 are overrated, with what would you replace them? You know, there are these things called cardinal numbers. If you can't think of any to replace them, how could they possibly be overrated?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the non-Ivies ranked 10-20 on US News are pretty overrated e.g. Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, WashU, Hopkins. Nobody really cares about those schools. They're fine but nothing to obsess over and they churn out plenty of "meh" undergrads every year. It's not like Northwestern or Emory are lottery tickets, but that's how some lunatic tiger moms act.

This is very much true, which makes it confusing as to why so many are obsessed with these schools based on their top 20-ish ranking.

These privates are pretty much regionally prestigious at most. In the upper Midwest, Northwestern is somewhat prestigious perhaps. Outside, not many people care about it. Frankly, I feel the same way about U. Chicago, which gets a lot of undue cachet due to its recent association with Obama - who was a lecturer, not a professor.

In the lower midwest, perhaps Washington University is somewhat prestigious. Maryland for Hopkins. South/Appalachia for Vanderbilt, perhaps. Ironically Georgetown may be the most "prestigious throughout the mid-Atlantic/Northeast due to its association as a school for prep school kids who couldn't get into the Ivies.

This regional prestige is also true for Ivies like Dartmouth and Brown, but their reputation as Ivies does carry some cachet throughout the country/world, even if unjustifiably so

These universities may have some fields that are very well known nationwide/worldwide within those in the know about the field such as academics i.e. pre-med at Hopkins, international relations and investment banking/consulting recruiting at Georgetown, Economics at U. Chicago, investment banking at Dartmouth, etc. etc.

You have typed a lot of words. Congrats on that.

Now if only they made a salient point, you would have a win.

They make the point that you tiger-moming your kid and paying $5,000 for SAT prep classes and then paying $70,000/year so your kid can live in St. Louis is not worth the money or time if they plan to live anywhere outside of the lowest Midwest

You use a pejorative and then bring in financials. I thought the discussion was about educational qualities?

The idea that Dartmouth and Brown Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Hopkins etc. have "regional" prestige is absolutely ridiculous. No better way to show your ignorance than to assume others are.

In addition, and most importantly, people should encourage their children to attend schools that will prepare them best for the lives they want. Arguing that one "brand identity" is not equal to another is is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

/and yeah I know that's not a proper contextual use of the quotation from Macbeth, my mid-40s ranked private college learn-ded me gud.

Do you lack reading comprehension? I did not say Dartmouth and Brown have 'regional prestige', I specifically said their association as Ivies gives them country-wide and world-wide recognition, earned or not.

You don't think Northwestern, Hopkins, Vanderbilt have regional prestige? You think these are nationally renowned universities across the board? Hopkins is for medical school only, and I specifically stated that its known for pre-med. Outside of that, not at all.

[Anonymous]

Also, thinking that attending the privates in 10-20 will better prepare your kids is hilarious. Hopkins, Washington University, etc. are research-focused universities. They don't focus on teaching undergrads. The student quality in 10-20 will not be much different than the student quality in 20-30 or 30-40.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, if colleges ranked 10 to 20 are overrated, with what would you replace them? You know, there are these things called cardinal numbers. If you can't think of any to replace them, how could they possibly be overrated?

Most college from 20-40 could replace them easily. Carnegie Mellon for example is considered a far more rigorous university by those in the know than Vanderbilt, Washington University, Northwestern, etc. and has the same amount of prestige in general and far more prestige in engineering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the non-Ivies ranked 10-20 on US News are pretty overrated e.g. Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, WashU, Hopkins. Nobody really cares about those schools. They're fine but nothing to obsess over and they churn out plenty of "meh" undergrads every year. It's not like Northwestern or Emory are lottery tickets, but that's how some lunatic tiger moms act.

This is very much true, which makes it confusing as to why so many are obsessed with these schools based on their top 20-ish ranking.

These privates are pretty much regionally prestigious at most. In the upper Midwest, Northwestern is somewhat prestigious perhaps. Outside, not many people care about it. Frankly, I feel the same way about U. Chicago, which gets a lot of undue cachet due to its recent association with Obama - who was a lecturer, not a professor.

In the lower midwest, perhaps Washington University is somewhat prestigious. Maryland for Hopkins. South/Appalachia for Vanderbilt, perhaps. Ironically Georgetown may be the most "prestigious throughout the mid-Atlantic/Northeast due to its association as a school for prep school kids who couldn't get into the Ivies.

This regional prestige is also true for Ivies like Dartmouth and Brown, but their reputation as Ivies does carry some cachet throughout the country/world, even if unjustifiably so

These universities may have some fields that are very well known nationwide/worldwide within those in the know about the field such as academics i.e. pre-med at Hopkins, international relations and investment banking/consulting recruiting at Georgetown, Economics at U. Chicago, investment banking at Dartmouth, etc. etc.

You have typed a lot of words. Congrats on that.

Now if only they made a salient point, you would have a win.

They make the point that you tiger-moming your kid and paying $5,000 for SAT prep classes and then paying $70,000/year so your kid can live in St. Louis is not worth the money or time if they plan to live anywhere outside of the lowest Midwest

You use a pejorative and then bring in financials. I thought the discussion was about educational qualities?

The idea that Dartmouth and Brown Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Hopkins etc. have "regional" prestige is absolutely ridiculous. No better way to show your ignorance than to assume others are.

In addition, and most importantly, people should encourage their children to attend schools that will prepare them best for the lives they want. Arguing that one "brand identity" is not equal to another is is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

/and yeah I know that's not a proper contextual use of the quotation from Macbeth, my mid-40s ranked private college learn-ded me gud.

Do you lack reading comprehension? I did not say Dartmouth and Brown have 'regional prestige', I specifically said their association as Ivies gives them country-wide and world-wide recognition, earned or not.

You don't think Northwestern, Hopkins, Vanderbilt have regional prestige? You think these are nationally renowned universities across the board? Hopkins is for medical school only, and I specifically stated that its known for pre-med. Outside of that, not at all.

Why does this PP sound so much like that Dopey PP that showed up earlier in this thread?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pitt!

Wrong. Medical school candidates, science etc great school. kids actually get jobs and get into grad school.