7 Math teachers are leaving Richard Montgomerry HS

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Anonymous wrote:I read nothing about the principal hating the IB Program in there.

Well known fact if you have kids in the program.

Yea.. he hates it so much his own kid applied to the program. /s

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Anonymous wrote:I'd like to know more about the 50% rule change. The few times my kids got one, that was the score that we saw on line right away. It was not changed later on. What is the new 'real time' concept? I agree a large exodus is not a good sign but as still skeptical of the IB hate. My non-IB kids had a few of these teachers too...one was not a good experience. After reading the Hoover/MCPS law suit document, I would like to hear the schools side.

ITA. IMO, based on what I read in the lawsuit, Hoover saw the IB program as her own fiefdom and wanted the Principal out of it, which IMO, is wrong. He's the Principal - of the whole school, including the IB program. She can't just do whatever she wants. She still has to report to him.

The vibe I get from the Principal regarding IB is that he wants the students in the program to be more engaged with the rest of the school. He doesn't want it to be a school within a school. My kid is in IB, and I didn't get the sense that the Principal hated IB the few times I have heard him speak about it. He does talk up the school as a whole, and not just program, which IMO, is the right thing. My kid went to HGC (back when it was HGC), and they were never really integrated with the non magnet part of the school. There was no community. I get the sense that this is a problem throughout the magnets.. that there is no unity.. it's a school within a school. As a Principal, that can't be a good feeling.

The incident with the math dept per the PP's post is troubling. I don't like the whole 50% rule, but that seems to be an MCPS wide issue, not just at RM, and certainly not just the IB program. It is never a good thing when the leader is not supportive of the employees (I've been there, too), but sometimes, as an employee you just have to do what your employer wants even if it's not something you agree with. Or, you leave. I've been there, too.

But the ^PP stated, not all the math teachers who are leaving are great. Sometimes, change can be a good thing. I know many people don't like change, but it happens. Life, and RMHS, will go on and be fine.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah more likely the principal took advantage of an opportunity to have someone else do something he couldn’t pull off himself, and could deflect blame. Seriously, principal interns aren’t shaking things up on their own in the six weeks they’re there! And they DO have something to lose, they still need s JOB as an admin.

Exactly

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Anonymous wrote:I'd like to know more about the 50% rule change. The few times my kids got one, that was the score that we saw on line right away. It was not changed later on. What is the new 'real time' concept? I agree a large exodus is not a good sign but as still skeptical of the IB hate. My non-IB kids had a few of these teachers too...one was not a good experience. After reading the Hoover/MCPS law suit document, I would like to hear the schools side.

ITA. IMO, based on what I read in the lawsuit, Hoover saw the IB program as her own fiefdom and wanted the Principal out of it, which IMO, is wrong. He's the Principal - of the whole school, including the IB program. She can't just do whatever she wants. She still has to report to him.

The vibe I get from the Principal regarding IB is that he wants the students in the program to be more engaged with the rest of the school. He doesn't want it to be a school within a school. My kid is in IB, and I didn't get the sense that the Principal hated IB the few times I have heard him speak about it. He does talk up the school as a whole, and not just program, which IMO, is the right thing. My kid went to HGC (back when it was HGC), and they were never really integrated with the non magnet part of the school. There was no community. I get the sense that this is a problem throughout the magnets.. that there is no unity.. it's a school within a school. As a Principal, that can't be a good feeling.

The incident with the math dept per the PP's post is troubling. I don't like the whole 50% rule, but that seems to be an MCPS wide issue, not just at RM, and certainly not just the IB program. It is never a good thing when the leader is not supportive of the employees (I've been there, too), but sometimes, as an employee you just have to do what your employer wants even if it's not something you agree with. Or, you leave. I've been there, too.

But the ^PP stated, not all the math teachers who are leaving are great. Sometimes, change can be a good thing. I know many people don't like change, but it happens. Life, and RMHS, will go on and be fine.

I'm a teacher at RM. This right here is probably the most spot on response in this entire ridiculous thread. Especially the bolded parts. And I teach magnet and non-magnet kids.

If you're so concerned about the "integrity of the IB program" (which, by the way, there are two of - MYP and DP) then don't send your child here if they get a spot in the magnet. Done and done.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read nothing about the principal hating the IB Program in there.

Well known fact if you have kids in the program.

Yea.. he hates it so much his own kid applied to the program. /s

I think it would look even stranger if his kid did not apply. Even bad IB is better than his home school. I don’t think your point is valid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read nothing about the principal hating the IB Program in there.

Well known fact if you have kids in the program.

Yea.. he hates it so much his own kid applied to the program. /s

I think it would look even stranger if his kid did not apply. Even bad IB is better than his home school. I don’t think your point is valid.

No, I don't think that would look strange at all. If he didn't value the IB program, why would he bother applying? It's not like that program is a cake walk. I don't think your point is valid. What is his home school?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read nothing about the principal hating the IB Program in there.

Well known fact if you have kids in the program.

Yea.. he hates it so much his own kid applied to the program. /s

I think it would look even stranger if his kid did not apply. Even bad IB is better than his home school. I don’t think your point is valid.

No, I don't think that would look strange at all. If he didn't value the IB program, why would he bother applying? It's not like that program is a cake walk. I don't think your point is valid. What is his home school?

I don't see people say he doesn't IB. He doesn't like the magnet version of it. He wants more local kids to do it and certain magnet kids, teachers, and parents think that diluted the magnet program.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read nothing about the principal hating the IB Program in there.

Well known fact if you have kids in the program.

Yea.. he hates it so much his own kid applied to the program. /s

I think it would look even stranger if his kid did not apply. Even bad IB is better than his home school. I don’t think your point is valid.

No, I don't think that would look strange at all. If he didn't value the IB program, why would he bother applying? It's not like that program is a cake walk. I don't think your point is valid. What is his home school?

I don't see people say he doesn't IB. He doesn't like the magnet version of it. He wants more local kids to do it and certain magnet kids, teachers, and parents think that diluted the magnet program.

If you read through this thread, and others, you will note how many posters claim that he doesn't like the IB program.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read nothing about the principal hating the IB Program in there.

Well known fact if you have kids in the program.

Yea.. he hates it so much his own kid applied to the program. /s

I think it would look even stranger if his kid did not apply. Even bad IB is better than his home school. I don’t think your point is valid.

No, I don't think that would look strange at all. If he didn't value the IB program, why would he bother applying? It's not like that program is a cake walk. I don't think your point is valid. What is his home school?

I don't see people say he doesn't IB. He doesn't like the magnet version of it. He wants more local kids to do it and certain magnet kids, teachers, and parents think that diluted the magnet program.

If you read through this thread, and others, you will note how many posters claim that he doesn't like the IB program.

He doesn't like RMIB "magnet" kids version.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read nothing about the principal hating the IB Program in there.

Well known fact if you have kids in the program.

Yea.. he hates it so much his own kid applied to the program. /s

I think it would look even stranger if his kid did not apply. Even bad IB is better than his home school. I don’t think your point is valid.

No, I don't think that would look strange at all. If he didn't value the IB program, why would he bother applying? It's not like that program is a cake walk. I don't think your point is valid. What is his home school?

I don't see people say he doesn't IB. He doesn't like the magnet version of it. He wants more local kids to do it and certain magnet kids, teachers, and parents think that diluted the magnet program.

If you read through this thread, and others, you will note how many posters claim that he doesn't like the IB program.

Or more likely the same "the principal hates IB" poster who crops up in every thread about RM and clearly has an axe to grind.

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It is beyond RM. The entire MCPS under Jack Smith is corrupted. To fix the problems, Jack Smith must go.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read nothing about the principal hating the IB Program in there.

Well known fact if you have kids in the program.

Yea.. he hates it so much his own kid applied to the program. /s

I think it would look even stranger if his kid did not apply. Even bad IB is better than his home school. I don’t think your point is valid.

No, I don't think that would look strange at all. If he didn't value the IB program, why would he bother applying? It's not like that program is a cake walk. I don't think your point is valid. What is his home school?

I don't see people say he doesn't IB. He doesn't like the magnet version of it. He wants more local kids to do it and certain magnet kids, teachers, and parents think that diluted the magnet program.

If you read through this thread, and others, you will note how many posters claim that he doesn't like the IB program.

Or more likely the same "the principal hates IB" poster who crops up in every thread about RM and clearly has an axe to grind.

RMIB has been A magnet program sibce it established in 87. When people talk about RMIB, it means the magnet program. The students who tested in at junior year are part of the RMIB magnet. The test has been rigorous so only the students who meet the standard were accepted. RMIB magnet is different from the IB programs in other HS.

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I thought the testing in part was only for entering 9th graders, for the magnet. 11th grade for IB not test-in.

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Anonymous wrote:This exodus is not about the 50% rule folks.

Then what is the reason?

School administration (A.K.A. the principal).

and how do you know this to be fact?

This was discussed multiple times here. Read up-thread. Put some effort into it if you are really interested.

If the poster means aside from rumor, then the answer is not on the thread,

The principal issue is not a rumor. keep in mind that many IB alum kids maintain communication with their IB teachers after they graduate. My kid still talks to a number of IB teachers from old RM days via social media. once you graduate, the rules of social media don't apply.