Zoning Lafayette out of Deal/Wilson - is this real?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know what crazy people (and agree with the PP, this is a total fantasy thread), here's the real story:

- Our kids shouldn't be used as a social engineering experiment because they are UMC and live in stable homes. Call that elitist, privileged, whatever, but no kid should have to deal with it because some social justice warrior deems it so.

- Of course we are going to scream when you ship our kids out of our neighborhood to an unproven school with abysmal test scores. NOBODY would want that to happen.

- The schools you are talking about sending us to, while smaller, do not have the same sort of extra curriculars (sports, arts) what have you that Deal and Wilson already have.

I think if Lafayette parents are convinced that the experience would be the same wherever else than it would be at Deal and Wilson, we would be OK with it. Contrary to what this thread suggests, I don't think Chevy Chase is full of racists. It is, however, full of families who want what's best for their kids, and Wells and Cardozo are just not going to cut it now. The expectations are just higher.

And, finally, for all the Deal bashers here, it IS a great place. The team approach keeps it small, and I can say especially over the last two years DD has had uniformly amazing teachers. I don't know who you've had. I'm sorry your snowflake can't handle the size, I'm sure when you pick their classes for them in college it will be better.

Let's see. This year (2 kids) we had one (core subject--i.e. math or ELA) teacher walk out and quit mid fall which led to 2 months of subs. Another core teacher (again math or ELA--different kid) missed an entire month of school. A third has threatened at least 3 times to "kill them all" which has led to the principal getting involved and taking testimony from the kids.
Now many of the rest of the teaching staff are good to outstanding. And my kids are at at the tops of their respective classes. But our experience this school year has been uneven.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know what crazy people (and agree with the PP, this is a total fantasy thread), here's the real story:

- Our kids shouldn't be used as a social engineering experiment because they are UMC and live in stable homes. Call that elitist, privileged, whatever, but no kid should have to deal with it because some social justice warrior deems it so.

- Of course we are going to scream when you ship our kids out of our neighborhood to an unproven school with abysmal test scores. NOBODY would want that to happen.

- The schools you are talking about sending us to, while smaller, do not have the same sort of extra curriculars (sports, arts) what have you that Deal and Wilson already have.

I think if Lafayette parents are convinced that the experience would be the same wherever else than it would be at Deal and Wilson, we would be OK with it. Contrary to what this thread suggests, I don't think Chevy Chase is full of racists. It is, however, full of families who want what's best for their kids, and Wells and Cardozo are just not going to cut it now. The expectations are just higher.

And, finally, for all the Deal bashers here, it IS a great place. The team approach keeps it small, and I can say especially over the last two years DD has had uniformly amazing teachers. I don't know who you've had. I'm sorry your snowflake can't handle the size, I'm sure when you pick their classes for them in college it will be better.

I occasionally see this term thrown around by the same sorts of folks who use the term 'SJW.' What exactly does this mean? How would this play out, in terms of outcomes?

Also, Wells isn't even open yet, so how can you remark about the extracurricular options or test scores there? What are you basing your predictions on? DCPS PARCC data, along with other research, suggests that kids from affluent, educated families tend to do well even in lower-performing schools, so your alarm at the prospect of redistricting is somewhat puzzling.

[Anonymous]

So much to unpack it 14:54 tacitly racist/class-baiterism. Yuck. It bears noting that many UMC homes are “unstable” because of divorce, addiction, workaholicism, and other behaviors befitting narcissists who wax, masturbation-like, about being UMC or their property values. You did not inherit a feeder path to Deal/Wilson by virtue of divine right or jumbo mortgage. If you want to move to McLean - do it. Ward 4 schools should feed Ward 4. Moreover, Ward 4 students make up the bulk of OOB students. This is a tremendous waste when we have very expensive, shiny MS and HS in Ward 4. Similarly, if we really care about bilingualism- reroute OA/Bancroft to Macfarland/Roosevelt. Besides Lafayette- we will need another big school - to be reorganized into Hardy. Janney makes sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So much to unpack it 14:54 tacitly racist/class-baiterism. Yuck. It bears noting that many UMC homes are “unstable” because of divorce, addiction, workaholicism, and other behaviors befitting narcissists who wax, masturbation-like, about being UMC or their property values. You did not inherit a feeder path to Deal/Wilson by virtue of divine right or jumbo mortgage. If you want to move to McLean - do it. Ward 4 schools should feed Ward 4. Moreover, Ward 4 students make up the bulk of OOB students. This is a tremendous waste when we have very expensive, shiny MS and HS in Ward 4. Similarly, if we really care about bilingualism- reroute OA/Bancroft to Macfarland/Roosevelt. Besides Lafayette- we will need another big school - to be reorganized into Hardy. Janney makes sense.

1) If we are sending students to school via ward, we are signing on to redraw the lines and feeder patterns every 10 years, since that is when the ward lines are adjusted.

2) Do you have a link showing where DCPS OOB students live?

3) There is 1 shiny MS and HS in Ward 4, MacFarland and Roosevelt. Wells isn't open yet, and will not serve all 3 grades until 2021. Coolidge has only early college and non-college programs. Nothing for a student seeking a 4-year, traditional high school experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:2) Do you have a link showing where DCPS OOB students live?

DC Charter Schools have an awesome publication for this: https://dcpcsb.egnyte.com/dl/myCFSlPmum/

I wonder if DCPS has the same?

[Anonymous]

I’m confused why Lafayette is a Ward 4 school. We are IB for Lafayette and live in Ward 3. The schools boundaries are not by ward!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m confused why Lafayette is a Ward 4 school. We are IB for Lafayette and live in Ward 3. The schools boundaries are not by ward!

Lafayette is IN Ward 4. Not that deep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m confused why Lafayette is a Ward 4 school. We are IB for Lafayette and live in Ward 3. The schools boundaries are not by ward!

Lafayette is IN Ward 4. Not that deep.

It may be in Ward 4, but remember, the line down Broad Branch Road was arbitrarily created not that long ago strictly to balance voters. It was never intended to have ANYTHING to do with schools. To imply otherwise is just somebody making stuff up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m confused why Lafayette is a Ward 4 school. We are IB for Lafayette and live in Ward 3. The schools boundaries are not by ward!

Lafayette is IN Ward 4. Not that deep.

The majority of the boundary (at least geographically) is in Ward 4.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know what crazy people (and agree with the PP, this is a total fantasy thread), here's the real story:

- Our kids shouldn't be used as a social engineering experiment because they are UMC and live in stable homes. Call that elitist, privileged, whatever, but no kid should have to deal with it because some social justice warrior deems it so.

- Of course we are going to scream when you ship our kids out of our neighborhood to an unproven school with abysmal test scores. NOBODY would want that to happen.

- The schools you are talking about sending us to, while smaller, do not have the same sort of extra curriculars (sports, arts) what have you that Deal and Wilson already have.

I think if Lafayette parents are convinced that the experience would be the same wherever else than it would be at Deal and Wilson, we would be OK with it. Contrary to what this thread suggests, I don't think Chevy Chase is full of racists. It is, however, full of families who want what's best for their kids, and Wells and Cardozo are just not going to cut it now. The expectations are just higher.

And, finally, for all the Deal bashers here, it IS a great place. The team approach keeps it small, and I can say especially over the last two years DD has had uniformly amazing teachers. I don't know who you've had. I'm sorry your snowflake can't handle the size, I'm sure when you pick their classes for them in college it will be better.

The bolded was totally unnecessary. No sympathy for you.

It's not clear how you know that Wells won't cut it, given that it's a NEW school (how can it have "abysmal test scores"?), and if it drew on students from, say, Shepherd and Lafayette, should be pretty well set up for success. Rezoning a school to deal with overcrowding isn't a "social justice warrior" social engineering experiment, it's a response to demographic facts. Deal and Wilson are growing and have or will exceed their capacity. Some schools currently zoned for Deal/Wilson will probably need to be rezoned. Proximity to the new schools is a relevant and reasonable factor. Screaming about moving is just fear of change--some things will have to change, no one wants it to be them. Eaton didn't want to be rezoned to Hardy, but those families are dealing with the change and the sky hasn't fallen yet. Calling other kids "snowflakes" isn't a solution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know what crazy people (and agree with the PP, this is a total fantasy thread), here's the real story:

- Our kids shouldn't be used as a social engineering experiment because they are UMC and live in stable homes. Call that elitist, privileged, whatever, but no kid should have to deal with it because some social justice warrior deems it so.

- Of course we are going to scream when you ship our kids out of our neighborhood to an unproven school with abysmal test scores. NOBODY would want that to happen.

- The schools you are talking about sending us to, while smaller, do not have the same sort of extra curriculars (sports, arts) what have you that Deal and Wilson already have.

I think if Lafayette parents are convinced that the experience would be the same wherever else than it would be at Deal and Wilson, we would be OK with it. Contrary to what this thread suggests, I don't think Chevy Chase is full of racists. It is, however, full of families who want what's best for their kids, and Wells and Cardozo are just not going to cut it now. The expectations are just higher.

And, finally, for all the Deal bashers here, it IS a great place. The team approach keeps it small, and I can say especially over the last two years DD has had uniformly amazing teachers. I don't know who you've had. I'm sorry your snowflake can't handle the size, I'm sure when you pick their classes for them in college it will be better.

I occasionally see this term thrown around by the same sorts of folks who use the term 'SJW.' What exactly does this mean? How would this play out, in terms of outcomes?

Also, Wells isn't even open yet, so how can you remark about the extracurricular options or test scores there? What are you basing your predictions on? DCPS PARCC data, along with other research, suggests that kids from affluent, educated families tend to do well even in lower-performing schools, so your alarm at the prospect of redistricting is somewhat puzzling.

That's precisely the point - there AREN'T any, and it will take years to develop them. And what it means is that people are so blinded by "social justice" that they fail to see how it can actually impact real people. It doesn't make you a bad person to not want to send your kid to a shitty school on a the theory that your smart, UMC kid is going to suddenly solve all of the inherent problems of urban poverty by just sitting next to some kid in a classroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know what crazy people (and agree with the PP, this is a total fantasy thread), here's the real story:

- Our kids shouldn't be used as a social engineering experiment because they are UMC and live in stable homes. Call that elitist, privileged, whatever, but no kid should have to deal with it because some social justice warrior deems it so.

- Of course we are going to scream when you ship our kids out of our neighborhood to an unproven school with abysmal test scores. NOBODY would want that to happen.

- The schools you are talking about sending us to, while smaller, do not have the same sort of extra curriculars (sports, arts) what have you that Deal and Wilson already have.

I think if Lafayette parents are convinced that the experience would be the same wherever else than it would be at Deal and Wilson, we would be OK with it. Contrary to what this thread suggests, I don't think Chevy Chase is full of racists. It is, however, full of families who want what's best for their kids, and Wells and Cardozo are just not going to cut it now. The expectations are just higher.

And, finally, for all the Deal bashers here, it IS a great place. The team approach keeps it small, and I can say especially over the last two years DD has had uniformly amazing teachers. I don't know who you've had. I'm sorry your snowflake can't handle the size, I'm sure when you pick their classes for them in college it will be better.

Exactly. No one who lives in the Lafayette neighborhood is going to be happy if some downtown social engineer tells them that henceforth their kids will be assigned to 'Marion Barry Elementary Campus' on the other side of the District. This would be a bit like the forced bussing that Joe Biden bravely opposed in Delaware in the 70s (except the DC version would be coercion but with no bus!)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Janney plus Shepherd plus Lafayette plus Colonial Village plus Bancroft plus O-A. E finito.

Is this a list of schools you believe will remain in the Deal/Wilson boundary or be cut?

These schools will be cut.

Janney is not going to be cut from Deal. The schools are basically within spitting distance of one another.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know what crazy people (and agree with the PP, this is a total fantasy thread), here's the real story:

- Our kids shouldn't be used as a social engineering experiment because they are UMC and live in stable homes. Call that elitist, privileged, whatever, but no kid should have to deal with it because some social justice warrior deems it so.

- Of course we are going to scream when you ship our kids out of our neighborhood to an unproven school with abysmal test scores. NOBODY would want that to happen.

- The schools you are talking about sending us to, while smaller, do not have the same sort of extra curriculars (sports, arts) what have you that Deal and Wilson already have.

I think if Lafayette parents are convinced that the experience would be the same wherever else than it would be at Deal and Wilson, we would be OK with it. Contrary to what this thread suggests, I don't think Chevy Chase is full of racists. It is, however, full of families who want what's best for their kids, and Wells and Cardozo are just not going to cut it now. The expectations are just higher.

And, finally, for all the Deal bashers here, it IS a great place. The team approach keeps it small, and I can say especially over the last two years DD has had uniformly amazing teachers. I don't know who you've had. I'm sorry your snowflake can't handle the size, I'm sure when you pick their classes for them in college it will be better.

I occasionally see this term thrown around by the same sorts of folks who use the term 'SJW.' What exactly does this mean? How would this play out, in terms of outcomes?

Also, Wells isn't even open yet, so how can you remark about the extracurricular options or test scores there? What are you basing your predictions on? DCPS PARCC data, along with other research, suggests that kids from affluent, educated families tend to do well even in lower-performing schools, so your alarm at the prospect of redistricting is somewhat puzzling.

That's precisely the point - there AREN'T any, and it will take years to develop them. And what it means is that people are so blinded by "social justice" that they fail to see how it can actually impact real people. It doesn't make you a bad person to not want to send your kid to a shitty school on a the theory that your smart, UMC kid is going to suddenly solve all of the inherent problems of urban poverty by just sitting next to some kid in a classroom.

Why assume that the school will be "shitty"? Did it take "years" to develop extracurricular activities for all the other schools? Why wouldn't your kid be sitting next to all the other smart, UMC kids from the same ES who are now at the same MS? Lafayette is a big school, and would be a substantial cohort that could strongly influence the student body performance. Add in, say, Shepherd, another strong ES, and you've got a big group of well-prepared kids. Your kid won't be hurt because there are also less affluent kids at the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m confused why Lafayette is a Ward 4 school. We are IB for Lafayette and live in Ward 3. The schools boundaries are not by ward!

Lafayette is IN Ward 4. Not that deep.

The majority of the boundary (at least geographically) is in Ward 4.

I can’t possibly be the only Ward 3 house that’s IB for Lafayette. We used to be IB for Murch. How does that make the Murch/Janet parents feel? Boundaries can change, and you too, could be shipped off from a school you live a 0.5 mile from.