Gonzaga Kairos Vandalism

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Decision week for admissions... sincerely disappointed...

Their yield will be down this year for sure.

We were on GZ/Prep fence...

We sent sons to both.

Both great schools that are more similar than different.

This thread is a bunch of very unhappy people with axes to grind venting their spleens over minor incidents. There really are some sick people out there.

Prep is a more relaxed, sedate environment. Gonzaga is busier and more frenetic.

Our Gonzaga son is completely comfortable in the city or any urban environment. He preferred eating half smokes purchased off a food truck for lunch. Our Prep son liked eating a plate lunch in the South Room looking out at the lawn and trees.

You’re an embarrassment to Gonzaga families.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are Gonzaga parents. In our opinion, the boys who were at the heart of the destruction should be expelled. The boys who stood by and watched or knew and did nothing should be suspended and experience significant consequences.

This entire matter is horrifying. We are angry that the incident occurred and we are heartbroken at the poor way in which it has been handled. It is a complete embarrassment to our community and we as a family feel let down by everyone involved, including the boys, their parents, school staff, retreat staff and, most importantly, school leadership.

+1000 Also a Gonzaga parent and significant donor. I hope Mr. Every and Fr. Planning are reading this thread. Unless something is done along the lines that you describe, our donations will stop, and the only money they will see from us is our tuition payment.

If you feel this way, why would you continue to send your son there?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My son is a student at Gonzaga and I echo the other parents posting here who are disappointed with the school's response to this incident. I would like to know why the ring leaders of the operation were not expelled. It is highly suspicious because I know that the school has expelled students in the past for incidents much less in severity. These kids should not have gotten off so easily and it is very short sighted of the administration to not take stronger action. I am also deeply disappointed that Fr. Planning sent a letter over two weeks after the incident...and only because the Washington Post was going to write an article. The school has been lacking in transparency lately and students, parents, teachers, and alumni are very distraught and angry.

C
Is there a mechanism where people can make their feelings known? Will the distraught and angry actually do something like press for greater transparency or a more detailed explanation?

These incidents always make me wonder what goes on at private schools that no one ever hears about because they hide it.

Minors damaging PRIVATE property.

This business is between the kids’ parents, the property owners, and since it was while on a school sponsored activity, the school. Other than that, disciplinary actions towards MINORS, should be private and confidential. Not “transparent” so that it can be posted on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son is a student at Gonzaga and I echo the other parents posting here who are disappointed with the school's response to this incident. I would like to know why the ring leaders of the operation were not expelled. It is highly suspicious because I know that the school has expelled students in the past for incidents much less in severity. These kids should not have gotten off so easily and it is very short sighted of the administration to not take stronger action. I am also deeply disappointed that Fr. Planning sent a letter over two weeks after the incident...and only because the Washington Post was going to write an article. The school has been lacking in transparency lately and students, parents, teachers, and alumni are very distraught and angry.

C
Is there a mechanism where people can make their feelings known? Will the distraught and angry actually do something like press for greater transparency or a more detailed explanation?

These incidents always make me wonder what goes on at private schools that no one ever hears about because they hide it.

Minors damaging PRIVATE property.

This business is between the kids’ parents, the property owners, and since it was while on a school sponsored activity, the school. Other than that, disciplinary actions towards MINORS, should be private and confidential. Not “transparent” so that it can be posted on DCUM.

We seem to have poster here who repeatedly makes this point. Surely you realize that you are in the minority on this opinion?

It does not matter that it was private property. The discussion is about a school that could create and foster an environment in which a large group of its students could get caught up in something like this. This goes beyond individual students; as several PPs have noted, this is about pack mentality. There is something wrong with a school that would have so many students that would go along with this group think.

The issue of lack of transparency is another matter, and I agree that is between the school and current families. But, prospective families - take heed.

[Anonymous]

Okay, Prep Parent of one of the vandalizers. We hear you.

[Anonymous]

Comment above to the poster who is arguing to take this off DCUM and that it’s a “private matter.”

[Anonymous]

If you are seriously considering sending your son to GZ, take heed.

[Anonymous]

The pack mentality at all-boys schools should really give one pause.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are Gonzaga parents. In our opinion, the boys who were at the heart of the destruction should be expelled. The boys who stood by and watched or knew and did nothing should be suspended and experience significant consequences.

This entire matter is horrifying. We are angry that the incident occurred and we are heartbroken at the poor way in which it has been handled. It is a complete embarrassment to our community and we as a family feel let down by everyone involved, including the boys, their parents, school staff, retreat staff and, most importantly, school leadership.

+1000 Also a Gonzaga parent and significant donor. I hope Mr. Every and Fr. Planning are reading this thread. Unless something is done along the lines that you describe, our donations will stop, and the only money they will see from us is our tuition payment.

If you feel this way, why would you continue to send your son there?

I am not the poster to whom you're responding but we sent our sons to Gonzaga because of all the outstanding things that happen there. These bad acts reflect bad apples that need to be expelled. These bad acts are not at all reflective of the Gonzaga that we have come to know and love. We have been so pleased with other elements of the school and our boys have thrived. They have truly become men for others. However, the lack of action taken by leadership is appalling. It is unconscionable that these children have not been expelled for their abhorrent actions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son is a student at Gonzaga and I echo the other parents posting here who are disappointed with the school's response to this incident. I would like to know why the ring leaders of the operation were not expelled. It is highly suspicious because I know that the school has expelled students in the past for incidents much less in severity. These kids should not have gotten off so easily and it is very short sighted of the administration to not take stronger action. I am also deeply disappointed that Fr. Planning sent a letter over two weeks after the incident...and only because the Washington Post was going to write an article. The school has been lacking in transparency lately and students, parents, teachers, and alumni are very distraught and angry.

C
Is there a mechanism where people can make their feelings known? Will the distraught and angry actually do something like press for greater transparency or a more detailed explanation?

These incidents always make me wonder what goes on at private schools that no one ever hears about because they hide it.

Minors damaging PRIVATE property.

This business is between the kids’ parents, the property owners, and since it was while on a school sponsored activity, the school. Other than that, disciplinary actions towards MINORS, should be private and confidential. Not “transparent” so that it can be posted on DCUM.

But why did the private property owners not press charges with such significant damage? Perhaps they were asked not to or were given compensation under the table? If that is the case, and several posters have suggested as such, that is shady.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The pack mentality at all-boys schools should really give one pause.

The pack mentality is not unique to boys' schools, nor is it found in every boys' school.

[Anonymous]

9:14 here. That was my first post, not repeatedly posting. And I have no skin in the game. But I think it is odd that people on DCUM think they ought to know more about a matter that is none of their business. Unless a senior boy was 18, they were minors and it’s not a public matter.

[Anonymous]

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9:14 here. That was my first post, not repeatedly posting. And I have no skin in the game. But I think it is odd that people on DCUM think they ought to know more about a matter that is none of their business. Unless a senior boy was 18, they were minors and it’s not a public matter.

oop, I was 9:08

[Anonymous]

It would have taken 6 boys hours to do that sort of damage- plenty of time for other students and chaperones to notice and stop the rampage. Breaking windows- house and car, tossing refrigerators over cliffs- these are things that cannot be done quietly. All 50 boys and the chaperones had to have known it was happening and therefore are culpable to some degree. These are Juniors and Seniors. They are old enough to step in and intervene when evil is occurring. And they have a responsibility to protect their school’s reputation and their friends from doing stupid things. “ Am I my brother’s keeper?” Yes, indeed you are!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son is a student at Gonzaga and I echo the other parents posting here who are disappointed with the school's response to this incident. I would like to know why the ring leaders of the operation were not expelled. It is highly suspicious because I know that the school has expelled students in the past for incidents much less in severity. These kids should not have gotten off so easily and it is very short sighted of the administration to not take stronger action. I am also deeply disappointed that Fr. Planning sent a letter over two weeks after the incident...and only because the Washington Post was going to write an article. The school has been lacking in transparency lately and students, parents, teachers, and alumni are very distraught and angry.

C
Is there a mechanism where people can make their feelings known? Will the distraught and angry actually do something like press for greater transparency or a more detailed explanation?

These incidents always make me wonder what goes on at private schools that no one ever hears about because they hide it.

Minors damaging PRIVATE property.

This business is between the kids’ parents, the property owners, and since it was while on a school sponsored activity, the school. Other than that, disciplinary actions towards MINORS, should be private and confidential. Not “transparent” so that it can be posted on DCUM.

We seem to have poster here who repeatedly makes this point. Surely you realize that you are in the minority on this opinion?

It does not matter that it was private property. The discussion is about a school that could create and foster an environment in which a large group of its students could get caught up in something like this. This goes beyond individual students; as several PPs have noted, this is about pack mentality. There is something wrong with a school that would have so many students that would go along with this group think.

The issue of lack of transparency is another matter, and I agree that is between the school and current families. But, prospective families - take heed.

Some Seniors are 18 at this point? Not minors all?