Is UChicago now a target for big5 kids? Up there with HYPS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UofC is going to fall in the next US News. It'll be P, H, MIT, Y, Penn will move into 5th. U of C's endowment is way too low for top 5.

Agree with this!

You forgot Stanford. Honestly, Stanford and MIT should be 1a and 1b.

1. Stanford, MIT
3. Harvard
4: Princeton
5. Yale
6. Penn

Chicago should be 11-14 range, below Duke and Dartmouth, but a place or two higher than Northwestern.

Did you go to Penn?

[Anonymous]

Not sure why the shitty UChicago thread again. AGAIN. But I see a pattern. The classic murder park thread and soon-to-be classic europevacationgirl thread. Some how I see a pattern. Too many unemployed UChicago people with too much time on their hands.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UofC is going to fall in the next US News. It'll be P, H, MIT, Y, Penn will move into 5th. U of C's endowment is way too low for top 5.

Agree with this!

You forgot Stanford. Honestly, Stanford and MIT should be 1a and 1b.

1. Stanford, MIT
3. Harvard
4: Princeton
5. Yale
6. Penn

Chicago should be 11-14 range, below Duke and Dartmouth, but a place or two higher than Northwestern.

Did you go to Penn?

Not PP, but I know two Chicago students that transferred to Penn's arts and sciences college. Philly is gritty, but not Hyde Park gritty - and the kids aren't mostly depressed. People act like these schools are just interchangeable widgets, but they're in real distinct locations, full of distinct students, with somewhat distinct outcomes.

[Anonymous]

Not PP, but I know two Chicago students that transferred to Penn's arts and sciences college. Philly is gritty, but not Hyde Park gritty - and the kids aren't mostly depressed. People act like these schools are just interchangeable widgets, but they're in real distinct locations, full of distinct students, with somewhat distinct outcomes.

You are clearly ignorant about the ground realities at Penn. If there is one Ivy that is known to be hyper competitive with massive mental health issues, it is Penn. There were SEVEN DEATHS just in 2017 related to mental health at Penn. Chicago can't even hold a candle to Penn on this.

And i have lived in both neighborhoods. Hyde Park is just way way better specially with all the gentrification that has taken place. There is a Whole Foods store in Hyde Park and if you know anything about the kind of folks who shop at Whole Foods it should tell you about what the neighborhood is like. To call it gritty is just nonsensical ignorance

[Anonymous]

I think, I’m this case “grittier” is probably more racist than nonsensically ignorant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I keep reading Chicago has changed a lot in recent years, specifically with regard to targeting “normal” outgoing prep school students. Is it now a peer to HYPS to prep school families?

Big 5 as in Sta, Cathedral, Sidwell, Georgetown, Potomac? Yes, it is. Will they hang out with your kids? No, they won't.

[Anonymous]

in this case, “grittier”...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think, I’m this case “grittier” is probably more racist than nonsensically ignorant.

No, gritty means abject poverty, violent crime, and litter everywhere. Look at a crime map of Chicago, the campus is a tiny bubble surrounded by slums. It's a fabulous education, but don't sugarcoat the location.

[Anonymous]

Poster referred to “Hyde Park” specifically — not other neighborhoods near it. And “slums” reinforces the racist undertone here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Not PP, but I know two Chicago students that transferred to Penn's arts and sciences college. Philly is gritty, but not Hyde Park gritty - and the kids aren't mostly depressed. People act like these schools are just interchangeable widgets, but they're in real distinct locations, full of distinct students, with somewhat distinct outcomes.

You are clearly ignorant about the ground realities at Penn. If there is one Ivy that is known to be hyper competitive with massive mental health issues, it is Penn. There were SEVEN DEATHS just in 2017 related to mental health at Penn. Chicago can't even hold a candle to Penn on this.

And i have lived in both neighborhoods. Hyde Park is just way way better specially with all the gentrification that has taken place. There is a Whole Foods store in Hyde Park and if you know anything about the kind of folks who shop at Whole Foods it should tell you about what the neighborhood is like. To call it gritty is just nonsensical ignorance

Ah yes, you've lived everywhere, and attended school everywhere, and the places you haven't your kids attend. Or you're just another desperate striver living through your kids. I know you're not an alum because the perpetual shilling is very off-brand for Chicago alums (unless they work in admissions). They'd admit the location is pretty gloomy, the college is pretty depressing, but they are smarter as a result of the grind. When asked if it was worth it, they'd give you a vague response.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Not PP, but I know two Chicago students that transferred to Penn's arts and sciences college. Philly is gritty, but not Hyde Park gritty - and the kids aren't mostly depressed. People act like these schools are just interchangeable widgets, but they're in real distinct locations, full of distinct students, with somewhat distinct outcomes.

You are clearly ignorant about the ground realities at Penn. If there is one Ivy that is known to be hyper competitive with massive mental health issues, it is Penn. There were SEVEN DEATHS just in 2017 related to mental health at Penn. Chicago can't even hold a candle to Penn on this.

And i have lived in both neighborhoods. Hyde Park is just way way better specially with all the gentrification that has taken place. There is a Whole Foods store in Hyde Park and if you know anything about the kind of folks who shop at Whole Foods it should tell you about what the neighborhood is like. To call it gritty is just nonsensical ignorance

Ah yes, you've lived everywhere, and attended school everywhere, and the places you haven't your kids attend. Or you're just another desperate striver living through your kids. I know you're not an alum because the perpetual shilling is very off-brand for Chicago alums (unless they work in admissions). They'd admit the location is pretty gloomy, the college is pretty depressing, but they are smarter as a result of the grind. When asked if it was worth it, they'd give you a vague response.

You are a moron who doesn't know the first thing about either Hyde Park or Penn.

Hyde Park is surrounded by other neighborhoods which have higher crime but is itself much safer and more gentrified than Penn's neighborhood. A person who doesn't know this doesn't know anything about Hyde Park. So don't show your ignorance and bias. Discuss the facts or face ridicule for being an ass

[Anonymous]

not happy with this shift. the change is not the right type of student that many of us that graduated from the College think makes the university better. really disappointed in the university for changing up things.

[Anonymous]

They’re still attracting seriously academic kids. Now they just get more that are wealthy and more that are poor. I regret that the spiraling cost of tuition is making middle class access to college significantly more difficult but that’s a dynamic that’s mostly out of UChicago’s control.

[Anonymous]

OP has got his swollen head stuck up in his arse and can't get it back out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They’re still attracting seriously academic kids. Now they just get more that are wealthy and more that are poor. I regret that the spiraling cost of tuition is making middle class access to college significantly more difficult but that’s a dynamic that’s mostly out of UChicago’s control.

My student is a seriously academic, middle class kid with a HHI of about $175k/year. UChicago is giving her generous financial aid. We're still paying a lot, but frankly, so is the university through its significant grants to her. Their financial aid packages never include loans these days, which also should recommend the school to the middle class.