To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?

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Imagine these a$$es in the same room. What a cartoon. Probably none of them went to any of the schools they’re trying to rate. Pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:HYPS and MIT. Maybe UChicago and Duke. That's it.

Duke boosters are hilarious

The true elite is HYPSM

Next tier is Columbia, Caltech, Chicago

Then it is Penn, Duke, Northwestern, Dartmouth, Brown Cornell, Hopkins

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Stanford is #6 for various reasons - below Columbia, Harvard, MIT, and Yale. They are sports focused with 12% of their students being recruited athletes. Student athletes stats tend to be the lowest while taking up a huge amount of resources to make sure they graduate. That’s resource taken away from the rest of the school. It can only rank behind academic institutions such as P, C, H, Y, and M.

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Huge gap between top ivies and Stanford.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait so Notre Dame is elite but Emory, NWestern, Vandy etc aren't, when their ranked higher on several rankings?

Nobody gives a hoot about ND, Emory, NW, or Vandy.

And even fewer about ND.

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Anonymous wrote:Ivies, Duke, Chicago, MIT, Notre Dame, Stanford, Hopkins.

I have witnessed for the last ten years the absolute smartest over-achiever ambitious Catholic boys and girls go to Notre Dame. Top 5 overall students in their class at selective prep schools. Maybe its standards were weak 10 or 20 or 30 years ago, but these days it's only admitting brilliant kids in the very top of their class.

I personally do not consider Northwestern, Vanderbilt or Emory to be elite. And while I do genuinely respect Wash U, it has basically zero name rec. And Berkeley is a over-enrolled degree mill full of cutthroat strivers, it's only romanticized by alums and boomers who still think it's the 60s.

Why in the world would you include Notre Dame in this. Total joke

It’s Notre Dame mom crowd-sourcing ND approval again. Just ignore. She started another thread n the wonders of ND.

Her kid didn't get into Princeton. And the reason, he's not "brilliant."

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Anonymous wrote:Wait so Notre Dame is elite but Emory, NWestern, Vandy etc aren't, when their ranked higher on several rankings?

Nobody gives a hoot about ND, Emory, NW, or Vandy.

Oh please there's a thread on each of these schools once a month, DC clearly cares.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine these a$$es in the same room. What a cartoon. Probably none of them went to any of the schools they’re trying to rate. Pathetic.

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Off all the people I know personally who graduated from one or more HYPSM, not one cares where anyone else went to school.

Zero. Zip.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine these a$$es in the same room. What a cartoon. Probably none of them went to any of the schools they’re trying to rate. Pathetic.

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Off all the people I know personally who graduated from one or more HYPSM, not one cares where anyone else went to school.

Zero. Zip.

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Of all the people I know personally who will soon graduate, all are too busy with their course work, extracurricular activities, to care where anyone else went to school. Nada. Zip. Zero.

It’s always the unemployed - or under employed - with way too much free time in their hands who debate these meaningless DYI university rankings.

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Anonymous wrote:The bottom should be Columbia.
HYPSM+Caltech and then Columbia at the bottom.
Chicago is a wannabe elite who aggressively manipulates for the rankings. Columbia manipulates too, but not as hard.

How’ve does Columbia manipulate? Doesn't pass the smell test. It’s the only ivy that didn’t discriminate against Jews. It’s not the type that cares about what everyone else does.

Any school with ED manipulates ranking.

Any school with SCEA manipulates ranking. So I guess the only truly elite school is MIT and Caltech.

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Anonymous wrote:The bottom should be Columbia.
HYPSM+Caltech and then Columbia at the bottom.
Chicago is a wannabe elite who aggressively manipulates for the rankings. Columbia manipulates too, but not as hard.

+1. Columbia’s undergrad might not be as selective as the other schools’ but its grad programs are on par with those of HYPSM, and a lot of them being even better.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine these a$$es in the same room. What a cartoon. Probably none of them went to any of the schools they’re trying to rate. Pathetic.

+1. Embarrassing imbeciles.

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Probably T30ish schools

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Anonymous wrote:The bottom should be Columbia.
HYPSM+Caltech and then Columbia at the bottom.
Chicago is a wannabe elite who aggressively manipulates for the rankings. Columbia manipulates too, but not as hard.

How’ve does Columbia manipulate? Doesn't pass the smell test. It’s the only ivy that didn’t discriminate against Jews. It’s not the type that cares about what everyone else does.

Any school with ED manipulates ranking.

Any school with SCEA manipulates ranking. So I guess the only truly elite school is MIT and Caltech.

Since acceptance rate is not included in USNEWS calculations you are both incorrect.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine these a$$es in the same room. What a cartoon. Probably none of them went to any of the schools they’re trying to rate. Pathetic.

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Off all the people I know personally who graduated from one or more HYPSM, not one cares where anyone else went to school.

Zero. Zip.

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Of all the people I know personally who will soon graduate, all are too busy with their course work, extracurricular activities, to care where anyone else went to school. Nada. Zip. Zero.

It’s always the unemployed - or under employed - with way too much free time in their hands who debate these meaningless DYI university rankings.

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I did not want to say it, but you absolutely nailed it, thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:Probably T30ish schools

The USNWR is usually top universities, and with that, I would probably agree, but I would also add around 15-20 SLACs to the list, so something like 50 schools that would be "elite"