residency cheater in Janney PK.

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Anonymous wrote:LOling that there are 12 pages of people defending cheaters!

Not really. There are 12 pages of people talking about residency cheating. Some people are wondering how the OP knows so much about this family. Some are talking about the many people at their school that they know to be cheating. One person is counting Maryland plates at Stuart-Hobson. My guess is that none of the people who are enraged about cheating and claim to know cheaters have actually reported those people.

What's worse - someone who suggests that people who are perceived to be cheating might actually not be or people who are certain that a person is cheating and doesn't report them?

But why wonder? Who cares how the OP knows what she knows. Suspecting someone of fraud is enough to report them. If they are not guilty of fraud, what's the harm? None! As soon as someone says "but what if..." they are searching for excuses why the OP shouldn't report this, i.e. defending a potential cheater. That's what's so insane about all this. People making excuses for why the potential cheater isn't a cheater and why op shouldn't report it. That's just stupid!

You know what else is "just stupid!"? The original post of this thread. OP states that there is a family that is lying, claiming to live somewhere they don't live and that an internet search indicates that those people live elsewhere in DC/MD and then, despite the continual chatter that this topic generates every 5 minutes, she says "What to do?" as though she was not aware that what you do is call the hotline, which can be found pretty easily.

I wonder how the OP knows because I am actually one of those cases in which people seeing me dropping DD off at school might suspect me of being a cheater. Her dad and I are divorced and legally, we share custody 50/50. We use his address as her official address (which is perfectly legal), and occasionally I drop her off at her DCPS in a car that has Maryland plates (thanks, carpool!). So my reason for wondering how the OP knows is to see if she's just assuming that the family in question is cheating based on criteria that could have other explanations.

So you're claiming Dad in DC as the child's primary address, while you have primary custody in MD?

We both live in DC. We have joint custody. Per my lawyer, neither of us has "primary" custody. She spends exactly the same amount of time at his house as she does at mine. He owns, I rent, we picked his address as the primary one to use. I occasionally carpool with a colleague who drives in from Maryland. After she drops her kid off, my kid gets in her kid's seat and we take her to school. Thus, you have a parent who does not live at the address on file using a car with Maryland plates to drop off a child at a DCPS where the child claimed in bounds preference at that school.

And my point was not that everyone is honest because I am. My point is that many of the people who are bent out of shape about residency cheating would see me dropping off my daughter this morning and wonder if I'd lied about where I lived to get her a place in school. I wasn't discouraging the OP from reporting it, which she apparently plans to do. If the residency office wants to look at our divorce agreement, our housing paperwork and whatever else, they're welcome to do so.

It's not clear why you're so concerned about what other people think. An "occasional" carpool with someone from MD isn't going to make anyone think anything. Especially if you know at least some of the fellow parents at the school. But if you drop off your child every single day with a MD plate, and you never smile at other parents or say hello -- rather, you getting out of there as fast as you can without talking to anyone, ever, leaving the smell of burnt rubber behind you -- then the situation would be completely different. Be at peace, your situation sounds completely normal to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:LOling that there are 12 pages of people defending cheaters!

Not really. There are 12 pages of people talking about residency cheating. Some people are wondering how the OP knows so much about this family. Some are talking about the many people at their school that they know to be cheating. One person is counting Maryland plates at Stuart-Hobson. My guess is that none of the people who are enraged about cheating and claim to know cheaters have actually reported those people.

What's worse - someone who suggests that people who are perceived to be cheating might actually not be or people who are certain that a person is cheating and doesn't report them?

But why wonder? Who cares how the OP knows what she knows. Suspecting someone of fraud is enough to report them. If they are not guilty of fraud, what's the harm? None! As soon as someone says "but what if..." they are searching for excuses why the OP shouldn't report this, i.e. defending a potential cheater. That's what's so insane about all this. People making excuses for why the potential cheater isn't a cheater and why op shouldn't report it. That's just stupid!

You know what else is "just stupid!"? The original post of this thread. OP states that there is a family that is lying, claiming to live somewhere they don't live and that an internet search indicates that those people live elsewhere in DC/MD and then, despite the continual chatter that this topic generates every 5 minutes, she says "What to do?" as though she was not aware that what you do is call the hotline, which can be found pretty easily.

I wonder how the OP knows because I am actually one of those cases in which people seeing me dropping DD off at school might suspect me of being a cheater. Her dad and I are divorced and legally, we share custody 50/50. We use his address as her official address (which is perfectly legal), and occasionally I drop her off at her DCPS in a car that has Maryland plates (thanks, carpool!). So my reason for wondering how the OP knows is to see if she's just assuming that the family in question is cheating based on criteria that could have other explanations.

So you're claiming Dad in DC as the child's primary address, while you have primary custody in MD?

We both live in DC. We have joint custody. Per my lawyer, neither of us has "primary" custody. She spends exactly the same amount of time at his house as she does at mine. He owns, I rent, we picked his address as the primary one to use. I occasionally carpool with a colleague who drives in from Maryland. After she drops her kid off, my kid gets in her kid's seat and we take her to school. Thus, you have a parent who does not live at the address on file using a car with Maryland plates to drop off a child at a DCPS where the child claimed in bounds preference at that school.

And my point was not that everyone is honest because I am. My point is that many of the people who are bent out of shape about residency cheating would see me dropping off my daughter this morning and wonder if I'd lied about where I lived to get her a place in school. I wasn't discouraging the OP from reporting it, which she apparently plans to do. If the residency office wants to look at our divorce agreement, our housing paperwork and whatever else, they're welcome to do so.

It's not clear why you're so concerned about what other people think. An "occasional" carpool with someone from MD isn't going to make anyone think anything. Especially if you know at least some of the fellow parents at the school. But if you drop off your child every single day with a MD plate, and you never smile at other parents or say hello -- rather, you getting out of there as fast as you can without talking to anyone, ever, leaving the smell of burnt rubber behind you -- then the situation would be completely different. Be at peace, your situation sounds completely normal to me.

NP. If I were the pp, I'd WANT every cheater caught so the other parents would know without question that I legitimately belong in the community just as much as they are. As long as you let cheaters stay in the school, everyone with MD tags are suspect.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:LOling that there are 12 pages of people defending cheaters!

Not really. There are 12 pages of people talking about residency cheating. Some people are wondering how the OP knows so much about this family. Some are talking about the many people at their school that they know to be cheating. One person is counting Maryland plates at Stuart-Hobson. My guess is that none of the people who are enraged about cheating and claim to know cheaters have actually reported those people.

What's worse - someone who suggests that people who are perceived to be cheating might actually not be or people who are certain that a person is cheating and doesn't report them?

But why wonder? Who cares how the OP knows what she knows. Suspecting someone of fraud is enough to report them. If they are not guilty of fraud, what's the harm? None! As soon as someone says "but what if..." they are searching for excuses why the OP shouldn't report this, i.e. defending a potential cheater. That's what's so insane about all this. People making excuses for why the potential cheater isn't a cheater and why op shouldn't report it. That's just stupid!

You know what else is "just stupid!"? The original post of this thread. OP states that there is a family that is lying, claiming to live somewhere they don't live and that an internet search indicates that those people live elsewhere in DC/MD and then, despite the continual chatter that this topic generates every 5 minutes, she says "What to do?" as though she was not aware that what you do is call the hotline, which can be found pretty easily.

I wonder how the OP knows because I am actually one of those cases in which people seeing me dropping DD off at school might suspect me of being a cheater. Her dad and I are divorced and legally, we share custody 50/50. We use his address as her official address (which is perfectly legal), and occasionally I drop her off at her DCPS in a car that has Maryland plates (thanks, carpool!). So my reason for wondering how the OP knows is to see if she's just assuming that the family in question is cheating based on criteria that could have other explanations.

So you're claiming Dad in DC as the child's primary address, while you have primary custody in MD?

We both live in DC. We have joint custody. Per my lawyer, neither of us has "primary" custody. She spends exactly the same amount of time at his house as she does at mine. He owns, I rent, we picked his address as the primary one to use. I occasionally carpool with a colleague who drives in from Maryland. After she drops her kid off, my kid gets in her kid's seat and we take her to school. Thus, you have a parent who does not live at the address on file using a car with Maryland plates to drop off a child at a DCPS where the child claimed in bounds preference at that school.

And my point was not that everyone is honest because I am. My point is that many of the people who are bent out of shape about residency cheating would see me dropping off my daughter this morning and wonder if I'd lied about where I lived to get her a place in school. I wasn't discouraging the OP from reporting it, which she apparently plans to do. If the residency office wants to look at our divorce agreement, our housing paperwork and whatever else, they're welcome to do so.

It's not clear why you're so concerned about what other people think. An "occasional" carpool with someone from MD isn't going to make anyone think anything. Especially if you know at least some of the fellow parents at the school. But if you drop off your child every single day with a MD plate, and you never smile at other parents or say hello -- rather, you getting out of there as fast as you can without talking to anyone, ever, leaving the smell of burnt rubber behind you -- then the situation would be completely different. Be at peace, your situation sounds completely normal to me.

NP. If I were the pp, I'd WANT every cheater caught so the other parents would know without question that I legitimately belong in the community just as much as they are. As long as you let cheaters stay in the school, everyone with MD tags are suspect.

Quite right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOling that there are 12 pages of people defending cheaters!

Not really. There are 12 pages of people talking about residency cheating. Some people are wondering how the OP knows so much about this family. Some are talking about the many people at their school that they know to be cheating. One person is counting Maryland plates at Stuart-Hobson. My guess is that none of the people who are enraged about cheating and claim to know cheaters have actually reported those people.

What's worse - someone who suggests that people who are perceived to be cheating might actually not be or people who are certain that a person is cheating and doesn't report them?

But why wonder? Who cares how the OP knows what she knows. Suspecting someone of fraud is enough to report them. If they are not guilty of fraud, what's the harm? None! As soon as someone says "but what if..." they are searching for excuses why the OP shouldn't report this, i.e. defending a potential cheater. That's what's so insane about all this. People making excuses for why the potential cheater isn't a cheater and why op shouldn't report it. That's just stupid!

Then report it but there is no need to post on DCUM about it. Report and be done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOling that there are 12 pages of people defending cheaters!

Not really. There are 12 pages of people talking about residency cheating. Some people are wondering how the OP knows so much about this family. Some are talking about the many people at their school that they know to be cheating. One person is counting Maryland plates at Stuart-Hobson. My guess is that none of the people who are enraged about cheating and claim to know cheaters have actually reported those people.

What's worse - someone who suggests that people who are perceived to be cheating might actually not be or people who are certain that a person is cheating and doesn't report them?

But why wonder? Who cares how the OP knows what she knows. Suspecting someone of fraud is enough to report them. If they are not guilty of fraud, what's the harm? None! As soon as someone says "but what if..." they are searching for excuses why the OP shouldn't report this, i.e. defending a potential cheater. That's what's so insane about all this. People making excuses for why the potential cheater isn't a cheater and why op shouldn't report it. That's just stupid!

Then report it but there is no need to post on DCUM about it. Report and be done.

I'm glad the OP posted this here. Maybe it will make other cheaters think twice before doing it.

[Anonymous]

Report it and let the investigation run it's course.
Meanwhile...
What about the AU Park slumlord with the 60 yo woman living in the backyard shed with all the foster dogs running about? And the various AU students renting each room?

[Anonymous]

Special Report: Cheater Family has been apprehended and returned to Maryland. More at 6.....

[Anonymous]

It wouldn't surprise me to find 50-100 non-District residents enrolled at each of Deal and Wilson.

[Anonymous]

"Then report it but there is no need to post on DCUM about it. Report and be done."

Actually, I think there's definitely a need to post it here. This thread will raise awareness of this problem among DCUM readers and they'll be on alert to identify cheaters in their schools.

That's a very good thing.

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Anonymous wrote:"Then report it but there is no need to post on DCUM about it. Report and be done."

Actually, I think there's definitely a need to post it here. This thread will raise awareness of this problem among DCUM readers and they'll be on alert to identify cheaters in their schools.

That's a very good thing.

Yes, this is right!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not creepy if your school is clogged every morning with Maryland tags. Like Mine is. The parents run in (if they don't just make their kid run in, so you never actually see them) and if you DO see the parents, they don't talk to you or anyone and beyond that you never see them at school events. Then you see the same iffy scenario happening again in Pre-K, and you have friends who actually live in the neighborhood who were waitlisted. I don't think it's creepy at all to be concerned about this situation. Why do YOU think it's creepy that other people are creeped out by such dodgy behavior?

Maybe the nanny is from Maryland and drops the kids off at school. There are a million reasons why this could be legitimate.

When we applied our kids for pre-k we understood that even IB there were a lot of other kids who would get preference at our local school.

There is a fine line between supporting your child's educational experience and being a busy body. Apparently this is not even affecting you, but you are tilting at windmills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Then report it but there is no need to post on DCUM about it. Report and be done."

Actually, I think there's definitely a need to post it here. This thread will raise awareness of this problem among DCUM readers and they'll be on alert to identify cheaters in their schools.

That's a very good thing.

I guess where you lose me is with the idea that awareness needs to be raised. It's not like this issue has never come up before on this site.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's not creepy if your school is clogged every morning with Maryland tags. Like Mine is. The parents run in (if they don't just make their kid run in, so you never actually see them) and if you DO see the parents, they don't talk to you or anyone and beyond that you never see them at school events. Then you see the same iffy scenario happening again in Pre-K, and you have friends who actually live in the neighborhood who were waitlisted. I don't think it's creepy at all to be concerned about this situation. Why do YOU think it's creepy that other people are creeped out by such dodgy behavior?

Maybe the nanny is from Maryland and drops the kids off at school. There are a million reasons why this could be legitimate.

When we applied our kids for pre-k we understood that even IB there were a lot of other kids who would get preference at our local school.

There is a fine line between supporting your child's educational experience and being a busy body. Apparently this is not even affecting you, but you are tilting at windmills.

If it's the nanny, then the question is easily resolved. Residency red flags should be looked at instead of making plausible excuses for them.

Residency fraud affects everyone. It robs sought-after spaces in PK from those who apply legitimately. In other schools, it may take spots from Washington kids who are unsuccessful in the OOB lottery. Less directly, it is a theft of resources and services from the school and a theft from the DC taxpayers.

"MYOB" and "don't be a busy body" are exactly what the fraudsters hope others in the school will do.

[Anonymous]

You go by Capitol Hill schools at drop-off or pickup and half the cars are from Maryland.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You go by Capitol Hill schools at drop-off or pickup and half the cars are from Maryland.

"Ward 9," baby!