Emotional needs of our students

[Anonymous]

"our kids" ??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"our kids" ??

OK.

Would "our children" be a better choice of words. Just in case you didn't notice, the "our" was referencing the title of the original post starting this thread.

[Anonymous]

"Would "our children" be a better choice of words. Just in case you didn't notice, the "our" was referencing the title of the original post starting this thread. "

It's clear why your kids are having trouble. Mine are fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Would "our children" be a better choice of words. Just in case you didn't notice, the "our" was referencing the title of the original post starting this thread. "

It's clear why your kids are having trouble. Mine are fine.

You're confused.

[Anonymous]

Nope. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the super early start times are not helping our kids mental health. Children should not be getting up at 5:30AM to go to school.

Dr Garza needs to wake up and change the school schedule.

I think staying up too late at night does not help our kids' mental health.

Sounds like the perspective of the working parent who wants to ship the kid out ASAP in the morning so she can get to her cubicle by 8:30. Teenagers have different sleep patterns, so the start times need to be changed back to what they used to be. Anyone in the know will tell you the later start times in APS are a selling point there.

Will do donate and drive the extra school buses that would be required, or do you want the little kids to wake up at 5:30?

Actually, sleep deprivation can be a significant factor in the development of depression.

What percentage of highly competative high school students are getting sufficient sleep every night?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK.

Other than the teacher who posted a day or two ago, the people on this thread more than illustrate why our kids are stressed to the max and suffering emotionally.

Listen to yourselves folks. The answer is right in front of you.

AP classes? Or tenured teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK.

Other than the teacher who posted a day or two ago, the people on this thread more than illustrate why our kids are stressed to the max and suffering emotionally.

Listen to yourselves folks. The answer is right in front of you.

AP classes? Or tenured teachers.

lol.

No, mirrors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK.

Other than the teacher who posted a day or two ago, the people on this thread more than illustrate why our kids are stressed to the max and suffering emotionally.

Listen to yourselves folks. The answer is right in front of you.

AP classes? Or tenured teachers.

lol.

No, mirrors.

So who's fueling the rat race? It's both. The parents and the school. The school will do anything to maintain its status. And most parents will do anything to pressure and push the kids. The kids don't have a chance for normal lives with family meals and enough sleep.

[Anonymous]

Actually, you are all missing what is really going on. The rat race has been created by our nation's colleges and universities which have successfully pushed the first and sometimes second year of college down onto high school students via the AP courses. This has worked out well for the colleges but puts incredible pressure on the students to get high test scores/high GPA/extracurriculars of note so they can get into a "good" college. This problem is compounded at Langley, as a PP pointed out, where only 8-10 slots go to UVA a year (no longer a safety, definitely desireable, economic for us VA taxpayers) so DC's like my own didn't even bother applying. Another contributing factor to the stress component is that colleges and universities are now being deluged with full-paying students from other countries, especially China. In order to add "diversity" and cover all that glossy marketing materials and new buildings to attract students, the colleges bring in more and more overseas students. This is especially true at second and third tier law schools. So the pressure really started with colleges saying "WE WANT TO SEE DEPTH OF STUDY - how many A.P. courses did you take?" So students comply. Then, they get into Langley's AP courses, discover they are taught at the college level, their GPA is falling, so 300 (stats from two years ago) want OUT of AP because they can't handle the work and are stressed out of their head, but Langley can't handle that many reassignments.

The system is broken nationally. It's not JUST the parents, JUST the teachers, JUST Langley, JUST T.J., Just Athelete preference, desireable skin color or legacies. It's because colleges have pushed the first year of college down onto the high schools and no one yet has said STOP! I applaud the parent who moved their child to a less stressful environment. We did the same with DC who now loves school and has made honor roll (totally on his own, no parent involvement whatsoever) for seven quarters. But very few parents living in this very expensive area can afford private school at the lower levels and then college expenses running as high as $67,000 a year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actually, you are all missing what is really going on. The rat race has been created by our nation's colleges and universities which have successfully pushed the first and sometimes second year of college down onto high school students via the AP courses. This has worked out well for the colleges but puts incredible pressure on the students to get high test scores/high GPA/extracurriculars of note so they can get into a "good" college. This problem is compounded at Langley, as a PP pointed out, where only 8-10 slots go to UVA a year (no longer a safety, definitely desireable, economic for us VA taxpayers) so DC's like my own didn't even bother applying. Another contributing factor to the stress component is that colleges and universities are now being deluged with full-paying students from other countries, especially China. In order to add "diversity" and cover all that glossy marketing materials and new buildings to attract students, the colleges bring in more and more overseas students. This is especially true at second and third tier law schools. So the pressure really started with colleges saying "WE WANT TO SEE DEPTH OF STUDY - how many A.P. courses did you take?" So students comply. Then, they get into Langley's AP courses, discover they are taught at the college level, their GPA is falling, so 300 (stats from two years ago) want OUT of AP because they can't handle the work and are stressed out of their head, but Langley can't handle that many reassignments.

The system is broken nationally. It's not JUST the parents, JUST the teachers, JUST Langley, JUST T.J., Just Athelete preference, desireable skin color or legacies. It's because colleges have pushed the first year of college down onto the high schools and no one yet has said STOP! I applaud the parent who moved their child to a less stressful environment. We did the same with DC who now loves school and has made honor roll (totally on his own, no parent involvement whatsoever) for seven quarters. But very few parents living in this very expensive area can afford private school at the lower levels and then college expenses running as high as $67,000 a year.

Bravo. Well said. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the super early start times are not helping our kids mental health. Children should not be getting up at 5:30AM to go to school.

Dr Garza needs to wake up and change the school schedule.

I think staying up too late at night does not help our kids' mental health.

Sounds like the perspective of the working parent who wants to ship the kid out ASAP in the morning so she can get to her cubicle by 8:30. Teenagers have different sleep patterns, so the start times need to be changed back to what they used to be. Anyone in the know will tell you the later start times in APS are a selling point there.

Will do donate and drive the extra school buses that would be required, or do you want the little kids to wake up at 5:30?

Actually, sleep deprivation can be a significant factor in the development of depression.

What percentage of highly competative high school students are getting sufficient sleep every night?

I think the lack of sleep was a significant factor is causing depression for my langley teenager. Up at 5:50 AM every day, come home from school tired, fall asleep, wake up to do homework until late, sleep 5 to 6 hours, do over and over and over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the super early start times are not helping our kids mental health. Children should not be getting up at 5:30AM to go to school.

Dr Garza needs to wake up and change the school schedule.

I think staying up too late at night does not help our kids' mental health.

Sounds like the perspective of the working parent who wants to ship the kid out ASAP in the morning so she can get to her cubicle by 8:30. Teenagers have different sleep patterns, so the start times need to be changed back to what they used to be. Anyone in the know will tell you the later start times in APS are a selling point there.

Will do donate and drive the extra school buses that would be required, or do you want the little kids to wake up at 5:30?

Actually, sleep deprivation can be a significant factor in the development of depression.

What percentage of highly competative high school students are getting sufficient sleep every night?

I think the lack of sleep was a significant factor is causing depression for my langley teenager. Up at 5:50 AM every day, come home from school tired, fall asleep, wake up to do homework until late, sleep 5 to 6 hours, do over and over and over.

Agreed.

We moved to Arlington where HS doesn't start until 8:19am.

Read studies on teenage brain--this is what factored into APS decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actually, you are all missing what is really going on. The rat race has been created by our nation's colleges and universities which have successfully pushed the first and sometimes second year of college down onto high school students via the AP courses. This has worked out well for the colleges but puts incredible pressure on the students to get high test scores/high GPA/extracurriculars of note so they can get into a "good" college. This problem is compounded at Langley, as a PP pointed out, where only 8-10 slots go to UVA a year (no longer a safety, definitely desireable, economic for us VA taxpayers) so DC's like my own didn't even bother applying. Another contributing factor to the stress component is that colleges and universities are now being deluged with full-paying students from other countries, especially China. In order to add "diversity" and cover all that glossy marketing materials and new buildings to attract students, the colleges bring in more and more overseas students. This is especially true at second and third tier law schools. So the pressure really started with colleges saying "WE WANT TO SEE DEPTH OF STUDY - how many A.P. courses did you take?" So students comply. Then, they get into Langley's AP courses, discover they are taught at the college level, their GPA is falling, so 300 (stats from two years ago) want OUT of AP because they can't handle the work and are stressed out of their head, but Langley can't handle that many reassignments.

The system is broken nationally. It's not JUST the parents, JUST the teachers, JUST Langley, JUST T.J., Just Athelete preference, desireable skin color or legacies. It's because colleges have pushed the first year of college down onto the high schools and no one yet has said STOP! I applaud the parent who moved their child to a less stressful environment. We did the same with DC who now loves school and has made honor roll (totally on his own, no parent involvement whatsoever) for seven quarters. But very few parents living in this very expensive area can afford private school at the lower levels and then college expenses running as high as $67,000 a year.

Excellent post. Colleges are now starting to rebel, realizing they are only getting robots, not well-rounded kids. Many don't even want SATs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the super early start times are not helping our kids mental health. Children should not be getting up at 5:30AM to go to school.

Dr Garza needs to wake up and change the school schedule.

Just to add my experience we lived far out from the school so I had to get up pretty early to "commute" in to the school. Bumping the start time by 30 minutes or so wouldn't have really made a difference. But I know some people talk about switching the elem. start times with the HS starts instead.