Emotional needs of our students

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“In the McLean and Langley Pyramid if you don't go to college, don't get into a ‘good’ college, you are seen as a let down to your school, your family and your community,” said Melissa Sporn, a mental health professional and SCC board member. “As a result I am routinely seeing patients in my practice who are overstressed, overworked and overwhelmed. Many of these students deal with these pressures by self-medicating with drugs and alcohol, cutting and/or engaging in other negative behaviors.”

It's the parents and kids who create the stress--not the school.

Thanks, Mr. Langley. You must be right. What do you suggest?

The school can do a ton to negate the influence from parents. The kids WANT relief from the stress. The fact that Cooper doesn't have these issues, and it suddenly blossoms in Langley is telling. The whole culture changes, and it's the same damn kids! The principal at Cooper, however, does NOT put up with the crap the parents throw at her. She stops it at the door. She has the kids own their own education, i.e teaches them how to take responsibility. That needs to be continued at Langley.

Good comment.

It's just one more "Randall good, Ragone bad" quote from Bullis Mom. I don't think it means anything when you juxtapose it with her other comments complaining about how people at Langley wanted to saddle her daughter with too many responsibilities and wouldn't pay enough attention to her when, as a parent, she complained about the grading scale.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find it sad and frustrating that a common response to student stress at langley is that my kids loved it so there is nothing that can be done. This lack of empathy is pervasive in great falls and mclean. And the kids are just like their parents.

The opposite is also true or "sad and frustrating" as you say: one poster again and again and again trots out the very same bad school stories. So if it didn't work out for your family the whole system must be broken and everything about the school must be bad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it sad and frustrating that a common response to student stress at langley is that my kids loved it so there is nothing that can be done. This lack of empathy is pervasive in great falls and mclean. And the kids are just like their parents.

The opposite is also true or "sad and frustrating" as you say: one poster again and again and again trots out the very same bad school stories. So if it didn't work out for your family the whole system must be broken and everything about the school must be bad.

Seriously. That one poster who wants to bash Langley due to the experience of HER child seems to need another outlet or something productive to do with her time. There are disgruntled parents at every high school, yet you don't see them here droning on like a broken record about how their school "did them wrong".

[Anonymous]

Question for Langley critic:

What would you have the administration do?

cut AP classes
college prep whatever?

I have no connection to Langley. jUst curious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Question for Langley critic:

What would you have the administration do?

cut AP classes
college prep whatever?

I have no connection to Langley. jUst curious.

Are you drunk? Wrong thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And, if the school didn't put emphasis on college preparation and the kids didn't get in, what would this board be about then?

Emphasis is ok, but cut-throat isn't.

[Anonymous]

Not every kid should be forced into college.

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn't it be nearly universally true that kids who experience stress do so more in high school than middle school? I don't agree that general "conclusions" can be drawn because my kid attended 2 particular schools. The only thing I can "conclude" is how my own kid dealt with it.

You can tell based on administration's policies and responses

I disagree. I'm sorry the high school was so tough for you and your daughter. It was great for 2 of my kids. Another 2 of my kids went to independent schools. All 4 loved their high school experiences. Your personal experience is just one data point. It does not extrapolate the way you want it to.

Tough in what regard? Please define.

We're it just me, I would agree it is decidedly just NOT me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's ludicrous to blame teen stress on the high school because the teen didn't experience stress during middle school. Come on.

It's not only one source. Come on.

Tell that to the "loved Cooper, Langley stressed us out (and was the source of every problem we had), moved to Bullis, life is grand (except for affirmative action)" poster. If you don't know her, you haven't read any thread directly or tangentially related to FCPS in the last year.

It is not just one source. It is:

1) other parents
2) other kids
3) doctors
4) mental health professionals
5) the school itself

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find it sad and frustrating that a common response to student stress at langley is that my kids loved it so there is nothing that can be done. This lack of empathy is pervasive in great falls and mclean. And the kids are just like their parents.

Precisely

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's ludicrous to blame teen stress on the high school because the teen didn't experience stress during middle school. Come on.

It's not only one source. Come on.

Tell that to the "loved Cooper, Langley stressed us out (and was the source of every problem we had), moved to Bullis, life is grand (except for affirmative action)" poster. If you don't know her, you haven't read any thread directly or tangentially related to FCPS in the last year.

It is not just one source. It is:

1) other parents
2) other kids
3) doctors
4) mental health professionals
5) the school itself

Actually, it is:
You don't know because you don't know the circumstances of the lives of these recent deaths. The one I know about has none of your # 1) - 5).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's ludicrous to blame teen stress on the high school because the teen didn't experience stress during middle school. Come on.

It's not only one source. Come on.

Tell that to the "loved Cooper, Langley stressed us out (and was the source of every problem we had), moved to Bullis, life is grand (except for affirmative action)" poster. If you don't know her, you haven't read any thread directly or tangentially related to FCPS in the last year.

Would you please shut up, you Bullis Bully?

Actually, that wasn't me. Nice try though

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

“In the McLean and Langley Pyramid if you don't go to college, don't get into a ‘good’ college, you are seen as a let down to your school, your family and your community,” said Melissa Sporn, a mental health professional and SCC board member. “As a result I am routinely seeing patients in my practice who are overstressed, overworked and overwhelmed. Many of these students deal with these pressures by self-medicating with drugs and alcohol, cutting and/or engaging in other negative behaviors.”

It's the parents and kids who create the stress--not the school.

Thanks, Mr. Langley. You must be right. What do you suggest?

The school can do a ton to negate the influence from parents. The kids WANT relief from the stress. The fact that Cooper doesn't have these issues, and it suddenly blossoms in Langley is telling. The whole culture changes, and it's the same damn kids! The principal at Cooper, however, does NOT put up with the crap the parents throw at her. She stops it at the door. She has the kids own their own education, i.e teaches them how to take responsibility. That needs to be continued at Langley.

Good comment.

It's just one more "Randall good, Ragone bad" quote from Bullis Mom. I don't think it means anything when you juxtapose it with her other comments complaining about how people at Langley wanted to saddle her daughter with too many responsibilities and wouldn't pay enough attention to her when, as a parent, she complained about the grading scale.

What?? I think you have me confused with someone else. What I SAID was there were not enough hours in a day to accomplish what Langley told my daughter she needed to do in order to get into a good school. The latter part of my sentence is the big lie that is coming out of these high pressure schools. In reality, what they want is their rankings (their Oscar if you will) so they color the truth. Add to that, the quota system coming from the colleges themselves and you get a big fat political mess. By going private. both problems were alleviated, thus alleviating the pressure. That has allowed her to focus on her goals and truly enjoy the experience along the way. She also has time to take advantage of the rich extra curricular activities because privates balance it all much better.

There is no point in learning when all learning leads to is burnout. It's much better for a kid to own their own education and enjoy it. That doesn't mean they don't work hard, it means that they truly get something from the experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not every kid should be forced into college.

Yup:

Mike Rowe Works Foundation. Good stuff:

http://profoundlydisconnected.com

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's ludicrous to blame teen stress on the high school because the teen didn't experience stress during middle school. Come on.

It's not only one source. Come on.

Tell that to the "loved Cooper, Langley stressed us out (and was the source of every problem we had), moved to Bullis, life is grand (except for affirmative action)" poster. If you don't know her, you haven't read any thread directly or tangentially related to FCPS in the last year.

It is not just one source. It is:

1) other parents
2) other kids
3) doctors
4) mental health professionals
5) the school itself

Actually, it is:
You don't know because you don't know the circumstances of the lives of these recent deaths. The one I know about has none of your # 1) - 5).

Does that mean that this is true for all students everywhere. If you are who I think you are, you are maybe 19 years old. Live a little, pay some taxes, have some kids, and put your kids through public school.You will then see the reality of what I speak.

Did you read about the Montgomery County school that kept a child molester on staff because they could not fire him due to unions, politics, etc, and he molested at least one other child after they knew what he did to the others? That's the government at work.