Emotional needs of our students

[Anonymous]

This website and this thread is a great depiction of the adults who are parents of these kids, and the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. If I was a teen at that school, I'd probably kill myself too.

[Anonymous]

^*those schools

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's ludicrous to blame teen stress on the high school because the teen didn't experience stress during middle school. Come on.

It's not only one source. Come on.

Tell that to the "loved Cooper, Langley stressed us out (and was the source of every problem we had), moved to Bullis, life is grand (except for affirmative action)" poster. If you don't know her, you haven't read any thread directly or tangentially related to FCPS in the last year.

It is not just one source. It is:

1) other parents
2) other kids
3) doctors
4) mental health professionals
5) the school itself

Actually, it is:
You don't know because you don't know the circumstances of the lives of these recent deaths. The one I know about has none of your # 1) - 5).

Does that mean that this is true for all students everywhere. If you are who I think you are, you are maybe 19 years old. Live a little, pay some taxes, have some kids, and put your kids through public school.You will then see the reality of what I speak.

That's the point: you can't list 5 things and say with any authority that "these are the sources of depression." I'm well aware of a handful of depressed teens. I'd say #1-5 are not the main problems for any of them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's ludicrous to blame teen stress on the high school because the teen didn't experience stress during middle school. Come on.

It's not only one source. Come on.

Tell that to the "loved Cooper, Langley stressed us out (and was the source of every problem we had), moved to Bullis, life is grand (except for affirmative action)" poster. If you don't know her, you haven't read any thread directly or tangentially related to FCPS in the last year.

It is not just one source. It is:

1) other parents
2) other kids
3) doctors
4) mental health professionals
5) the school itself

Actually, it is:
You don't know because you don't know the circumstances of the lives of these recent deaths. The one I know about has none of your # 1) - 5).

Does that mean that this is true for all students everywhere. If you are who I think you are, you are maybe 19 years old. Live a little, pay some taxes, have some kids, and put your kids through public school.You will then see the reality of what I speak.

That's the point: you can't list 5 things and say with any authority that "these are the sources of depression." I'm well aware of a handful of depressed teens. I'd say #1-5 are not the main problems for any of them.

I didn't say these are the sources of depression. I said that these are the people who are stating and reinforcing that a high-stress environment at Langley exists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's ludicrous to blame teen stress on the high school because the teen didn't experience stress during middle school. Come on.

It's not only one source. Come on.

Tell that to the "loved Cooper, Langley stressed us out (and was the source of every problem we had), moved to Bullis, life is grand (except for affirmative action)" poster. If you don't know her, you haven't read any thread directly or tangentially related to FCPS in the last year.

It is not just one source. It is:

1) other parents
2) other kids
3) doctors
4) mental health professionals
5) the school itself

Actually, it is:
You don't know because you don't know the circumstances of the lives of these recent deaths. The one I know about has none of your # 1) - 5).

Does that mean that this is true for all students everywhere. If you are who I think you are, you are maybe 19 years old. Live a little, pay some taxes, have some kids, and put your kids through public school.You will then see the reality of what I speak.

Did you read about the Montgomery County school that kept a child molester on staff because they could not fire him due to unions, politics, etc, and he molested at least one other child after they knew what he did to the others? That's the government at work.

Let me deconstruct this. Bullis Mom got into a more open debate with some recent Langley graduates on Twitter and Facebook who defended Langley after she attacked the principal and administrators there, so now every time someone disagrees with her she thinks they are 19 and don't have her years of "experience." That's probably not the case here, but it seems to make her feel better.

FWIW, BBC is running a fascinating interview this weekend with Kay Jamison, who is an expert on depression, including among youths. She has some real insights on the topic. From listening to her speak, I'm convinced that one specific thing FCPS could do soon that would help high school students is to push back the start times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's ludicrous to blame teen stress on the high school because the teen didn't experience stress during middle school. Come on.

It's not only one source. Come on.

Tell that to the "loved Cooper, Langley stressed us out (and was the source of every problem we had), moved to Bullis, life is grand (except for affirmative action)" poster. If you don't know her, you haven't read any thread directly or tangentially related to FCPS in the last year.

It is not just one source. It is:

1) other parents
2) other kids
3) doctors
4) mental health professionals
5) the school itself

Actually, it is:
You don't know because you don't know the circumstances of the lives of these recent deaths. The one I know about has none of your # 1) - 5).

Does that mean that this is true for all students everywhere. If you are who I think you are, you are maybe 19 years old. Live a little, pay some taxes, have some kids, and put your kids through public school.You will then see the reality of what I speak.

That's the point: you can't list 5 things and say with any authority that "these are the sources of depression." I'm well aware of a handful of depressed teens. I'd stay #1-5 are not the main problems for any of them.

I didn't say these are the sources of depression. I said that these are the people who are stating and reinforcing that a high-stress environment at Langley exists.

So high school can be stressful? Ok, then, sure I agree too. I don't know who would disagree with that.

[Anonymous]

What causes stress and crazy behavior is a perceived lack of supply. Just think about when you see people in refugee camps fighting to get to a truck that brings in a tiny bit of food or water and there are too many people starving. People fight for survival. The ratings game of colleges, the extreme cost of housing and college, the idea that there are only 20 decent colleges in the country that will get you a decent life are leading parents and students to feel a huge amount of stress. But the truth is that their is no lack of colleges. This is all in our heads thanks to things like magazines that rate colleges or towns that you live in. No one feels they are good enough. To add fuel to the fire I saw in the WSJ the other day that more and more companies will be asking for your SAT scores. Even if you took them 20 years ago!

[Anonymous]

There not their

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's ludicrous to blame teen stress on the high school because the teen didn't experience stress during middle school. Come on.

It's not only one source. Come on.

Tell that to the "loved Cooper, Langley stressed us out (and was the source of every problem we had), moved to Bullis, life is grand (except for affirmative action)" poster. If you don't know her, you haven't read any thread directly or tangentially related to FCPS in the last year.

It is not just one source. It is:

1) other parents
2) other kids
3) doctors
4) mental health professionals
5) the school itself

Actually, it is:
You don't know because you don't know the circumstances of the lives of these recent deaths. The one I know about has none of your # 1) - 5).

Does that mean that this is true for all students everywhere. If you are who I think you are, you are maybe 19 years old. Live a little, pay some taxes, have some kids, and put your kids through public school.You will then see the reality of what I speak.

Did you read about the Montgomery County school that kept a child molester on staff because they could not fire him due to unions, politics, etc, and he molested at least one other child after they knew what he did to the others? That's the government at work.

Let me deconstruct this. Bullis Mom got into a more open debate with some recent Langley graduates on Twitter and Facebook who defended Langley after she attacked the principal and administrators there, so now every time someone disagrees with her she thinks they are 19 and don't have her years of "experience." That's probably not the case here, but it seems to make her feel better.

FWIW, BBC is running a fascinating interview this weekend with Kay Jamison, who is an expert on depression, including among youths. She has some real insights on the topic. From listening to her speak, I'm convinced that one specific thing FCPS could do soon that would help high school students is to push back the start times.

Science has already shown that later start times reduces depression. Problem is that the same crazy parents that are posting on this board about TJ this and Langley that and boundaries here and testing there and how to appeal the testing on an on and on,

are the fundamental problem.

They are the ones that say pushing back the times is absurd. No one can stand in the way of these crazy parents in fairfax county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's ludicrous to blame teen stress on the high school because the teen didn't experience stress during middle school. Come on.

It's not only one source. Come on.

Tell that to the "loved Cooper, Langley stressed us out (and was the source of every problem we had), moved to Bullis, life is grand (except for affirmative action)" poster. If you don't know her, you haven't read any thread directly or tangentially related to FCPS in the last year.

It is not just one source. It is:

1) other parents
2) other kids
3) doctors
4) mental health professionals
5) the school itself

Actually, it is:
You don't know because you don't know the circumstances of the lives of these recent deaths. The one I know about has none of your # 1) - 5).

Does that mean that this is true for all students everywhere. If you are who I think you are, you are maybe 19 years old. Live a little, pay some taxes, have some kids, and put your kids through public school.You will then see the reality of what I speak.

Did you read about the Montgomery County school that kept a child molester on staff because they could not fire him due to unions, politics, etc, and he molested at least one other child after they knew what he did to the others? That's the government at work.

Let me deconstruct this. Bullis Mom got into a more open debate with some recent Langley graduates on Twitter and Facebook who defended Langley after she attacked the principal and administrators there, so now every time someone disagrees with her she thinks they are 19 and don't have her years of "experience." That's probably not the case here, but it seems to make her feel better.

FWIW, BBC is running a fascinating interview this weekend with Kay Jamison, who is an expert on depression, including among youths. She has some real insights on the topic. From listening to her speak, I'm convinced that one specific thing FCPS could do soon that would help high school students is to push back the start times.

In actuality, I recognize the writing style and the tone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What causes stress and crazy behavior is a perceived lack of supply. Just think about when you see people in refugee camps fighting to get to a truck that brings in a tiny bit of food or water and there are too many people starving. People fight for survival. The ratings game of colleges, the extreme cost of housing and college, the idea that there are only 20 decent colleges in the country that will get you a decent life are leading parents and students to feel a huge amount of stress. But the truth is that their is no lack of colleges. This is all in our heads thanks to things like magazines that rate colleges or towns that you live in. No one feels they are good enough. To add fuel to the fire I saw in the WSJ the other day that more and more companies will be asking for your SAT scores. Even if you took them 20 years ago!

THIS is the post of the year so far. FCPS high schools should be emphasizing to the students the sheer volume of colleges in the nation and how there is a seat for every student who wants to go. Instead, they feed into the frenzy because it ups their rankings. So completely gross.

Thank you for posting such a level-headed comment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's ludicrous to blame teen stress on the high school because the teen didn't experience stress during middle school. Come on.

It's not only one source. Come on.

Tell that to the "loved Cooper, Langley stressed us out (and was the source of every problem we had), moved to Bullis, life is grand (except for affirmative action)" poster. If you don't know her, you haven't read any thread directly or tangentially related to FCPS in the last year.

It is not just one source. It is:

1) other parents
2) other kids
3) doctors
4) mental health professionals
5) the school itself

Actually, it is:
You don't know because you don't know the circumstances of the lives of these recent deaths. The one I know about has none of your # 1) - 5).

Does that mean that this is true for all students everywhere. If you are who I think you are, you are maybe 19 years old. Live a little, pay some taxes, have some kids, and put your kids through public school.You will then see the reality of what I speak.

That's the point: you can't list 5 things and say with any authority that "these are the sources of depression." I'm well aware of a handful of depressed teens. I'd stay #1-5 are not the main problems for any of them.

I didn't say these are the sources of depression. I said that these are the people who are stating and reinforcing that a high-stress environment at Langley exists.

So high school can be stressful? Ok, then, sure I agree too. I don't know who would disagree with that.

So the next question you should ask yourself is: how is FCPS as a whole dealing with that? What is it about school A that makes it less stressful than school B? What are the contributing factors? What can be changed?