MIami IN Notre Dame Out

[Anonymous]

Forgive me if this has been asked and answered, but if the Group of 5 conferences is guaranteed one spot in the CFP, how did two G5 teams get in: JMU and Tulane, neither of whom is as good as Notre Dame?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:ND made $20m they did not have to share with a conference off of last year's run to the championship game. The Pop Tart money is nothing to them.

And I don't think BYU had anything to do with their decision. I'd encourage BYU to do them same since they also got royally screwed by the fact that some rules don't seem to apply to Bama but do to them.

Burn it down. Top 12 ranked teams at the end of the season. Ranking determined by computer.

The computer would have to be programmed with metrics for rankings, since these teams mostly don't even play each other. Or do you just want AI to do it, with the hopes that the AI will have seen Rudy?

BYU was not "royally screwed" because they would not have made the CFB either way. They were on the bubble and wound up just out of contention. Like ND. Though unlike ND, BYU are not big, entitled babies and are accepting it and moving on.

ND wasn't on the bubble. They have been 9 or 10 the entire period the CFP was releasing their weekly rankings.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:weak schedule. navy, bc, stanford, purdue -if they want to be in the playoff and not be in a conference they have to play the top teams.

Or at least more good teams.

Also they need to actually win the games against the good teams they play. They didn't have a single impressive win this season. They ran up the score against extremely weak teams and lost to the two comparable teams they played. That's it.

This is one of the reasons they should have played a bowl game against BYU, simply to prove that they could beat a decent team. Had they played BYU and won, this would have at least demonstrated that their strong record wasn't entirely due to a weak schedule. As it stands, the best argument you can make for the quality of ND's team this year is that they *almost* beat Texas A&M. And this is a problem entirely of their own making.

Sometimes other teams have cushier schedules but it's not their own creation -- they play in conferences with weaker opponents and get lucky with some scheduling. ND's weak schedule, every single year, is something they dictate for themselves. And never more so this year when they chose not to play BYU after also losing games to Texas A&M and Miami. I guess the team didn't feel it had anything to prove? Sounds like a team that isn't going to the playoffs.

ND, for once, appropriately rated.

They beat two teams that finished in the top 25 and a third that was ranked when they played. Their only two losses were to teams that made the CFP.

I’m not even an ND booster but this forum is filled with morons.

And Miami and Alabama both *beat* teams that made the CFP.

If you can't win against a single top rated team, you are not competitive with that set. Miami and Alabama each had tough losses, but they proved they could beat top teams.

Notre Dame proved they could beat lesser teams. Great. That means Notre Dame got exactly what they deserved -- they are the best team of all the teams that did not make the CFP. Alabama and Miami are the worst teams of all the teams that made the CFP. Makes perfect sense to most of us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:weak schedule. navy, bc, stanford, purdue -if they want to be in the playoff and not be in a conference they have to play the top teams.

Or at least more good teams.

Also they need to actually win the games against the good teams they play. They didn't have a single impressive win this season. They ran up the score against extremely weak teams and lost to the two comparable teams they played. That's it.

This is one of the reasons they should have played a bowl game against BYU, simply to prove that they could beat a decent team. Had they played BYU and won, this would have at least demonstrated that their strong record wasn't entirely due to a weak schedule. As it stands, the best argument you can make for the quality of ND's team this year is that they *almost* beat Texas A&M. And this is a problem entirely of their own making.

Sometimes other teams have cushier schedules but it's not their own creation -- they play in conferences with weaker opponents and get lucky with some scheduling. ND's weak schedule, every single year, is something they dictate for themselves. And never more so this year when they chose not to play BYU after also losing games to Texas A&M and Miami. I guess the team didn't feel it had anything to prove? Sounds like a team that isn't going to the playoffs.

ND, for once, appropriately rated.

They beat two teams that finished in the top 25 and a third that was ranked when they played. Their only two losses were to teams that made the CFP.

I’m not even an ND booster but this forum is filled with morons.

lol ok then

[Anonymous]

I used to like ND as a fan and after Brian Kelley I was done with them. I gave them a second chance with their new coach and I am not a fan anymore.

They preach the brotherhood, the love of the game etc but all they did was show that they are the crybabies everyone was telling me they were for along time.

[Anonymous]

Teams turn down NIT bids all the time. Good for ND. Hard to believe a school like Duke with Yale or Princeton pedigree has to compete with the Miami and Alabama crowd.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Applaud ND who cares about playing a meaningless game. Duke got robbed once in a lifetime opportunity in football playoffs taken away when their platinum brand in hoops has fed the NCAA for last 40 years.

[Apologies to the rest of the posters, but I'm going to keep asking this question until one of the meaningless game posters responds.]

Virtually every bowl game ND (and most other teams) have played in, ever, was "meaningless." What makes this one different?

Bowl games are not the same as they were when there was only a 4 team playoff. There were plenty of good bowls where you could end up playing a good team. ND would destroy BYU, no doubt. But in the current situation, I don't blame ND at all. Also know that there are several teams who have also opted out of bowl games this year, namely

Florida State
Auburn
UCF
Baylor
Kansas
Rutgers
Temple
Iowa State
Kansas State

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ND made $20m they did not have to share with a conference off of last year's run to the championship game. The Pop Tart money is nothing to them.

And I don't think BYU had anything to do with their decision. I'd encourage BYU to do them same since they also got royally screwed by the fact that some rules don't seem to apply to Bama but do to them.

Burn it down. Top 12 ranked teams at the end of the season. Ranking determined by computer.

The computer would have to be programmed with metrics for rankings, since these teams mostly don't even play each other. Or do you just want AI to do it, with the hopes that the AI will have seen Rudy?

BYU was not "royally screwed" because they would not have made the CFB either way. They were on the bubble and wound up just out of contention. Like ND. Though unlike ND, BYU are not big, entitled babies and are accepting it and moving on.

ND wasn't on the bubble. They have been 9 or 10 the entire period the CFP was releasing their weekly rankings.

They got pushed onto the bubble when JMU went 12-1 and own their conference championship, and Tulane went 11-2 and won their conference championship. This pushed them onto the bubble along with other teams that didn't win a championship or didn't play bowl games. JMU and Tulane had better records and won their conferences, so you can't really argue with it.

ND got pushed onto a bubble with other teams that finished 10-2. If you don't want to be having to line up your record versus Miami and Alabama and getting into a conversation about head to heads or strength of schedule, there's an easy way to do that -- win more football games.

Had ND simply beaten Texas A&M they would have earned their way in with no question. They didn't. Next time, win that game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since this is a college board. Per 2026 US News rankings- Duke 7, ND 20, UMiami 64, JMU 151, and UAlabama 169. That says it all.

Bravo!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Forgive me if this has been asked and answered, but if the Group of 5 conferences is guaranteed one spot in the CFP, how did two G5 teams get in: JMU and Tulane, neither of whom is as good as Notre Dame?

The CFP guarantees spots for the five highest ranked conference champions. Since there are only four “Power” conferences, this has the effect of guaranteeing that there will always be at least one non-power conference champion, but there could be more. This year JMU and Tulane were ranked higher than the ACC champion, Duke. Therefore the ACC champion did not get spot. Notre Dame would have gotten an at-large spot but the Committee have it to Miami (who didn’t play in the ACC championship game) instead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since this is a college board. Per 2026 US News rankings- Duke 7, ND 20, UMiami 64, JMU 151, and UAlabama 169. That says it all.

And Vanderbilt is better than all of them. Much tougher SEC football schedule and better academically. But Vandy accepted the decisions, and moved on and will play their Bowl game without issue.

I have no idea what Notre Dame is doing. But from looking at social media, Notre Dame is getting an extraordinary amount of hate.

That hate has always been festering. Nothing new there. Mostly jealousy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:weak schedule. navy, bc, stanford, purdue -if they want to be in the playoff and not be in a conference they have to play the top teams.

Or at least more good teams.

Also they need to actually win the games against the good teams they play. They didn't have a single impressive win this season. They ran up the score against extremely weak teams and lost to the two comparable teams they played. That's it.

This is one of the reasons they should have played a bowl game against BYU, simply to prove that they could beat a decent team. Had they played BYU and won, this would have at least demonstrated that their strong record wasn't entirely due to a weak schedule. As it stands, the best argument you can make for the quality of ND's team this year is that they *almost* beat Texas A&M. And this is a problem entirely of their own making.

Sometimes other teams have cushier schedules but it's not their own creation -- they play in conferences with weaker opponents and get lucky with some scheduling. ND's weak schedule, every single year, is something they dictate for themselves. And never more so this year when they chose not to play BYU after also losing games to Texas A&M and Miami. I guess the team didn't feel it had anything to prove? Sounds like a team that isn't going to the playoffs.

ND, for once, appropriately rated.

Um, they won 10 in a row, one of which is #16 USC. The losses were by 1 point and 3 points (total of 4 points between 2 teams). I agree, the schedule sucked, but they were considered to be a very good team this year that could have competed very well in the CFP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since this is a college board. Per 2026 US News rankings- Duke 7, ND 20, UMiami 64, JMU 151, and UAlabama 169. That says it all.

Bravo!!

Bravo? What does a USNWR ranking have to do with CFP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listen to this giant, petulant baby throwing a massive tantrum:

“There is no explanation that could possibly be given to explain the outcome,” Bevacqua said. “As I said to (Notre Dame coach Marcus Freeman), one thing is for sure: Any rankings or show prior to this last one is an absolute joke and a waste of time. Why put these young student-athletes through these false emotions just to pull the rug out from underneath them having not played a game in two weeks and then a group of people in a room shatter their dreams without explanation?

“We feel like the playoff was stolen from our student-athletes.”

If ND was smart, they'd fire this moron. They hadn't played in two weeks because they declined to play a bowl game, idiot. And there is an explanation for the outcome, you just don't like it because it involves acknowledging ND's self-selected schedule of cupcakes and the fact that they were unable to win either of the two actually competitive games they played.

What did ND do to earn a spot in the playoffs other than just suit up in uniforms that say "Notre Dame." Beat USC? Alabama beat Georgia. Miami beat... Notre Dame. USC doesn't cut it. Play and win against good teams and you can go to the playoffs.

Jeez I guess people don't remember the wins last year and earlier this year against Indiana, Georgia, Penn State, USC, etc.

[Anonymous]

Duke should be given priority since it has academics. How can they compete with the Canes and Tide.