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Much like the sports conversation, it doesn’t take a whole lot of time for hand to accidentally be tipped for the anti-trans crowd that it’s not actually about sports, bathrooms, etc. it’s literally just that their existence offends you. The insistence on purposefully misgendering them always peeks its ugly head and lets us know, again it has nothing to do with locker rooms or bathrooms, it’s that they simply want to live. The bathroom panic is so dumb, the documented cases of random acts of sexual assaults taking place by trans people in bathrooms is so small it’s not even statistically significant. You literally are more likely to be assaulted by a cisgender person in a bathroom than a trans person.its actually hilarious this is a hot topic in schools because there’s thousands of kids who can tell you from experience that being assaulted in a locker or bathroom has very little to do with the gender if the attacker. In fact, trans people are far more likely to be victimized, statistically they’re the victims of nearly 5 times as many violent crimes. I also just can’t get over the logic that the sanctity of the bathroom could never be violated otherwise, a cisgender man could still commit sexual violence in, y’all act like being trans provides some sort of legal immunity to a crime. This stupid trans-panic bathroom stuff is by the same people who brought you the old “gay men can’t be around kids” panic and “can’t let people of color live in your neighborhood, it’s dangerous” fear. There is no statistical evidence demonstrating this in any way a real threat, so you’re essentially trying to make life worse for some poor kid, who, if this board is any indication, routinely is exposed to hate in their community. Imagine. What type of person wakes up in the morning looking to bully a child over the conceptual idea that they could be violent or doing it for nefarious reasons. I’m glad FCPS is fighting for ALL of its students. And spare me the “whataboutism” for the cost, I gotta a pretty good idea the lot in here doing “what about finding for the poor kids” havebt uttered that sentiment ever before. |
Pretending to be a girl doesn't make you a girl, and vice versa. Everyone knew this until like five minutes ago, even you. |
Trans people have always existed, it’s a concept that exists across cultures and time. It’s present in indigenous history, Polynesian history, European, etc. It’s present in historical moments like Albert Cashier, trans Civil War soldier, Dr. James Berry, trans Irish physician of the early 1800s, Dr. Alan Hart, renown physician and tuberculosis researcher, etc. Gender is a social construct. Some of us read books and don’t just put our mouths up to the propaganda faucet. There is an entire world beyond “five minutes ago” but I wouldn’t expect those unable to see beyond 5 inches in front of their face to recognize that. |
Yes, agreed, it's not a brand new concept. Even back when millennials were teenagers it was a 1-in-10k phenomenon and family physicians had to prepare for the possibility of encountering transgender patients at some point in their career: https://www.aafp.org/pubs/afp/issues/2006/0915/p924.html That said, the two order-of-magnitude increase in people deciding to be trans is a bizarre fad, these people aren't actually the gender they want to pretend to be, and the rights claims are absurd. |
Your examples all have something in common that is not the issue that concerns most of us. Do you not see it? |
No I see your bigotry and assumptions that male to female transgender people are threats despite absolutely zero evidence. I’ll just let them know they can’t have any basic human dignity because you have “concerns” and that apparently is just as good as facts…. |
The percentage of people who identify as trans is still exceedingly rare, it’s less than 1 percent of the population. Naturally, as modern society strives to be more inclusive you will see a rise in people coming out. We saw this was gay people, we even saw this with left handed people. It’s not that there are more left handed people today than before, it’s that society stopped weirdly trying to stamp it out and people could finally be themselves. https://slowrevealgraphs.com/2021/11/08/rate-of-left-handedness-in-the-us-stigma-society/ When you stop trying to force people to be what they’re not then you will see more people who previously would’ve remained closeted. Lastly, your final point about people pretending has no basis in fact or reality. Like every single other anti-trans claim I’ve seen here it’s built on an assumption, and now your attitude towards someone’s entire existence is built on a feeling. It’s a sad state of affairs where “logic” like this, where hypotheticals, not at all grounded in the reality or facts, are what is a leading source for this national debate. We’re literally legislating a group that makes less than 1% of the population because a bunch of weirdos have sat around and thought of what crimes they “could” commit. What a joke |
It's more than 1% among young people: https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/transgender-high-schoolers-identify-cdc-national-survey-rcna174569 Also, 1% is a lot! A single male screwball getting to use the women's locker-room or play women's sports is a disaster for girls' privacy and fairness, not to mention the appalling abuse that the transgender student experiences when a doctor, school administration and family environment take this bizarre Tumblr fad seriously. Even if it were less than 1%, that's no answer at all. |
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One could make this same argument about any mental illness, all of which have been around for thousands of years as well. Fwiw, I do tend to believe trans is a mental illness. |
In the DMV area, it didn't help that a girl that was raped in a school bathroom by a boy in a dress, then when the father went to a school board meeting to complain about it being swept under the rug, he was blocked and dragged out of a school board meeting for complaining about his daughter being raped in a bathroom by a boy in a dress. The whole time, horrible people like you kept yelling that he was lying about his raped daughter in order to prevent the school board from adopting a resolution to allow boys that identified as girls to use girls bathrooms. That combined with school boards telling staff that they can keep secrets from parents about their children's sexuality and help them transition without parental knowledge. It cost McAuliffe the governorship and probably boosted Trump more than a little bit. But you go ahead and keep banging that drum. Keep telling everyone who disagrees with you how stupid, horrible and ridiculous they are. If you can't make your point respectfully, be prepared to see your candidate suffer for it. It is because of people like you that the Democratic party is pulling back on trans rights as much as they have. Because the ambassador for trans rights are the worst people in the world. |
It was a mental illness until they decided that calling it a mental illness was making things worse so now we humor them. And as long as it's no skin of your nose, why not. But it has gone beyond that when the trans rights proponents insist that men be allowed to use female facilities. Not just bathrooms and locker rooms but bath houses and other places that are segregated to females in part out of privacy concerns. They dismiss the concerns of their opponents and exaggerate their own. They say things like You are LITERALLY denying my existence You are LITERALLY killing trans kids Your words are violence. None of that is true. It's all a bit too much. |
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As for the “historical examples” a PP gave… women presenting themselves as men 100+ years ago as the only way they would be allowed to hold certain jobs/professions is not really the same thing. And yes— I’m sure there were a tiny number of people who were actually trans, just like there have always been people who are depressed, anxious, have OCD, etc. But nothing like today’s numbers.
And saying that being trans isn’t based on feelings… then what is it based on? It’s not based on biology or fact. It’s based on how a person feels. This doesn’t make it invalid, but it does make it hard to quantify. |
Funny that you specifically carve out male to female. Because you know the problem here is the invasion of female spaces by biological men. |
| Gender is not a social construct construct. Women wearing certain things and men wearing others is a social construct. Clothes, for that matter, are a social construct. Different roles in a family like women cooking and cleaning and men going to an office or factory is a social construct for the most part but is derivatkve of an actually biological difference which is that a heavily pregnant women or nursing mother of a newborn that needs to here every two hours actually cannot go hunt or work in a factory or plow a field all day. Can a woman do it otherwise? Yes. But those divisions regarding home and work duties exist because of actually biological differences that are NOT constructs. I am a woman and a lawyer and let me tell you I wear pants and mow the lawn and fold laundry and my husband does a ton of stuff that was precious for women. But when it came time to nurse our children, only I could do it. Only my. When we moved to bottles, he helped yes, but for nursing it was me. That is NOT a a social construct. And monthly periods are not a social construct. And osteoperosis is not a social construct. Prostate cancer is not a social construct. These are real biological differences that most of us respect. |