2010G BSC Coming For FVU

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Anonymous wrote:Were any of the girls leaving starters?

All are starters except for the #2 goalie, and its a grand total of 5 players. Only one is irreplaceable. Roster is at 15 now , FVU will be just fine. #1 goalie gets full games now, roster will grow to 18 but stays slim which parents love especially in recruitment years. This may be addition by subraction...as long as everyone stays healthy. On the flipisde I heard there were 2 ACLs injuries in that group of 15 left. So who knows?

Wrong! Only 3 players have requested player cards to leave to BSC, but none have been released by ECNL with the recruitment violations now exposed and false information provided to these families by BSC. There might now be reconsideration by a couple. There were also 2 unregistered players being recruited, but 1 has already committed to FVU, the other is still deciding. 2 forwards declined BSC to remain at FVU.

Wrong! All 5 are leaving. Get your facts straight.

Only three requested becuase the other 2 had not signed yet. So 5 is correct, but it may end up being only 2 or 3 now. These silly parents are coming to their senses maybee...

The back and forth of how many is a waste, just wait until they officially pop up on rosters.

One can only imagine the tension on the sidelines if upset parents force a decision on the parents and kids who want to leave. Relationships amongst the parents are likely irreparable at this point - 13 pages into complaining, badgering, and insulting.

These are individual families decisions that were made based on false promises. No other family can force a decision for them either way. If anything there has been empathy and understanding expressed for the manipulation that some experienced and all the stress caused. None of the children & families on both teams deserve this.
But for better or worse ECNL does have that authority wrt to individual players, coaches and clubs.

Curious how one knows the promises are false? Are you part of a decision board, or have any insight others do not. This seems more like bitter parents grasping at straws. If you do have confirmed points, please inform. Otherwise, this appears no different from all the other times coaches have moved on.

[Anonymous]

BSC parents are classy, humble, and always put the team first over everything bring on the natty!

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Anonymous wrote:Were any of the girls leaving starters?

All are starters except for the #2 goalie, and its a grand total of 5 players. Only one is irreplaceable. Roster is at 15 now , FVU will be just fine. #1 goalie gets full games now, roster will grow to 18 but stays slim which parents love especially in recruitment years. This may be addition by subraction...as long as everyone stays healthy. On the flipisde I heard there were 2 ACLs injuries in that group of 15 left. So who knows?

Wrong! Only 3 players have requested player cards to leave to BSC, but none have been released by ECNL with the recruitment violations now exposed and false information provided to these families by BSC. There might now be reconsideration by a couple. There were also 2 unregistered players being recruited, but 1 has already committed to FVU, the other is still deciding. 2 forwards declined BSC to remain at FVU.

Wrong! All 5 are leaving. Get your facts straight.

Only three requested becuase the other 2 had not signed yet. So 5 is correct, but it may end up being only 2 or 3 now. These silly parents are coming to their senses maybee...

The back and forth of how many is a waste, just wait until they officially pop up on rosters.

I think the first false promise was that you could just jump ship after July 1. There are bound to FVU as of that date, and FVU would have to release them to move to another local ECNL club. So now you've got players/parents staring at staying with a team that they just said "see ya" to.

One can only imagine the tension on the sidelines if upset parents force a decision on the parents and kids who want to leave. Relationships amongst the parents are likely irreparable at this point - 13 pages into complaining, badgering, and insulting.

These are individual families decisions that were made based on false promises. No other family can force a decision for them either way. If anything there has been empathy and understanding expressed for the manipulation that some experienced and all the stress caused. None of the children & families on both teams deserve this.
But for better or worse ECNL does have that authority wrt to individual players, coaches and clubs.

Curious how one knows the promises are false? Are you part of a decision board, or have any insight others do not. This seems more like bitter parents grasping at straws. If you do have confirmed points, please inform. Otherwise, this appears no different from all the other times coaches have moved on.

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Anonymous wrote:Were any of the girls leaving starters?

All are starters except for the #2 goalie, and its a grand total of 5 players. Only one is irreplaceable. Roster is at 15 now , FVU will be just fine. #1 goalie gets full games now, roster will grow to 18 but stays slim which parents love especially in recruitment years. This may be addition by subraction...as long as everyone stays healthy. On the flipisde I heard there were 2 ACLs injuries in that group of 15 left. So who knows?

Wrong! Only 3 players have requested player cards to leave to BSC, but none have been released by ECNL with the recruitment violations now exposed and false information provided to these families by BSC. There might now be reconsideration by a couple. There were also 2 unregistered players being recruited, but 1 has already committed to FVU, the other is still deciding. 2 forwards declined BSC to remain at FVU.

Wrong! All 5 are leaving. Get your facts straight.

Only three requested becuase the other 2 had not signed yet. So 5 is correct, but it may end up being only 2 or 3 now. These silly parents are coming to their senses maybee...

The back and forth of how many is a waste, just wait until they officially pop up on rosters.

One can only imagine the tension on the sidelines if upset parents force a decision on the parents and kids who want to leave. Relationships amongst the parents are likely irreparable at this point - 13 pages into complaining, badgering, and insulting.

These are individual families decisions that were made based on false promises. No other family can force a decision for them either way. If anything there has been empathy and understanding expressed for the manipulation that some experienced and all the stress caused. None of the children & families on both teams deserve this.
But for better or worse ECNL does have that authority wrt to individual players, coaches and clubs.

Curious how one knows the promises are false? Are you part of a decision board, or have any insight others do not. This seems more like bitter parents grasping at straws. If you do have confirmed points, please inform. Otherwise, this appears no different from all the other times coaches have moved on.

I think the first false promise was telling kids/parents they could just move on over when it was after July 1. ECNL won't let you move to another local club after that date without original club releasing you. So now you have parents/players facing playign a season with coaches/teammates they just said "adios" to.

[Anonymous]

This all started because families thought that ML and NM would be coaching them. Then after the families signed up, they removed those coaches. I would leave too. MV isn't a good coach.

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Anonymous wrote:This all started because families thought that ML and NM would be coaching them. Then after the families signed up, they removed those coaches. I would leave too. MV isn't a good coach.

What are MV's credentials? I don't hear much positive about him.

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Who are the FVU coaches?

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Anonymous wrote:Were any of the girls leaving starters?

All are starters except for the #2 goalie, and its a grand total of 5 players. Only one is irreplaceable. Roster is at 15 now , FVU will be just fine. #1 goalie gets full games now, roster will grow to 18 but stays slim which parents love especially in recruitment years. This may be addition by subraction...as long as everyone stays healthy. On the flipisde I heard there were 2 ACLs injuries in that group of 15 left. So who knows?

Wrong! Only 3 players have requested player cards to leave to BSC, but none have been released by ECNL with the recruitment violations now exposed and false information provided to these families by BSC. There might now be reconsideration by a couple. There were also 2 unregistered players being recruited, but 1 has already committed to FVU, the other is still deciding. 2 forwards declined BSC to remain at FVU.

Wrong! All 5 are leaving. Get your facts straight.

Only three requested becuase the other 2 had not signed yet. So 5 is correct, but it may end up being only 2 or 3 now. These silly parents are coming to their senses maybee...

The back and forth of how many is a waste, just wait until they officially pop up on rosters.

One can only imagine the tension on the sidelines if upset parents force a decision on the parents and kids who want to leave. Relationships amongst the parents are likely irreparable at this point - 13 pages into complaining, badgering, and insulting.

These are individual families decisions that were made based on false promises. No other family can force a decision for them either way. If anything there has been empathy and understanding expressed for the manipulation that some experienced and all the stress caused. None of the children & families on both teams deserve this.
But for better or worse ECNL does have that authority wrt to individual players, coaches and clubs.

Curious how one knows the promises are false? Are you part of a decision board, or have any insight others do not. This seems more like bitter parents grasping at straws. If you do have confirmed points, please inform. Otherwise, this appears no different from all the other times coaches have moved on.

Some have been mentioned previously already. But just 1 example - half the BSC practices were guaranteed to be held in VA, McLean fields and families were told these permits were already obtained. Specific practice days and times were also provided. Meanwhile it’s been checked & verified that no permits were even requested for McLean fields let alone given to BSC since field space is not issued to MD teams. Bethesda parents meanwhile had no idea that they were supposedly going to practice in VA some of the time. So much deception!

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Anonymous wrote:This all started because families thought that ML and NM would be coaching them. Then after the families signed up, they removed those coaches. I would leave too. MV isn't a good coach.

What are MV's credentials? I don't hear much positive about him.

He has solid credentials. You can actually look this up pretty easily.

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Anonymous wrote:This all started because families thought that ML and NM would be coaching them. Then after the families signed up, they removed those coaches. I would leave too. MV isn't a good coach.

CW is the coach.

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Anonymous wrote:Were any of the girls leaving starters?

All are starters except for the #2 goalie, and its a grand total of 5 players. Only one is irreplaceable. Roster is at 15 now , FVU will be just fine. #1 goalie gets full games now, roster will grow to 18 but stays slim which parents love especially in recruitment years. This may be addition by subraction...as long as everyone stays healthy. On the flipisde I heard there were 2 ACLs injuries in that group of 15 left. So who knows?

Wrong! Only 3 players have requested player cards to leave to BSC, but none have been released by ECNL with the recruitment violations now exposed and false information provided to these families by BSC. There might now be reconsideration by a couple. There were also 2 unregistered players being recruited, but 1 has already committed to FVU, the other is still deciding. 2 forwards declined BSC to remain at FVU.

Wrong! All 5 are leaving. Get your facts straight.

Only three requested becuase the other 2 had not signed yet. So 5 is correct, but it may end up being only 2 or 3 now. These silly parents are coming to their senses maybee...

The back and forth of how many is a waste, just wait until they officially pop up on rosters.

One can only imagine the tension on the sidelines if upset parents force a decision on the parents and kids who want to leave. Relationships amongst the parents are likely irreparable at this point - 13 pages into complaining, badgering, and insulting.

These are individual families decisions that were made based on false promises. No other family can force a decision for them either way. If anything there has been empathy and understanding expressed for the manipulation that some experienced and all the stress caused. None of the children & families on both teams deserve this.
But for better or worse ECNL does have that authority wrt to individual players, coaches and clubs.

Curious how one knows the promises are false? Are you part of a decision board, or have any insight others do not. This seems more like bitter parents grasping at straws. If you do have confirmed points, please inform. Otherwise, this appears no different from all the other times coaches have moved on.

Some have been mentioned previously already. But just 1 example - half the BSC practices were guaranteed to be held in VA, McLean fields and families were told these permits were already obtained. Specific practice days and times were also provided. Meanwhile it’s been checked & verified that no permits were even requested for McLean fields let alone given to BSC since field space is not issued to MD teams. Bethesda parents meanwhile had no idea that they were supposedly going to practice in VA some of the time. So much deception!

Then they aren't very smart people. Everyone that's been playing soccer knows permits are given out right before the season. It's one year, and if they don't like it they can go to another team. They will get exposure and good training. The commute may be worth it to some.

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Love how no one has mentioned the top 2 existing Bethesda players are going to be moved up on the 09 team so they can be part of the conversation in 09 age group.

When they miss playoffs, they will be moved back down to 10s for playoff run. Guess they will be moved back on age for showcase events for college exposure too which is going to take away from out other 10s playing time.

As a parent, I am only worried about exposure to college and don’t really care about league play (as long as we make playoffs again). I think this situation sucks and may have considered a different club during tryouts. Time will tell.

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Anonymous wrote:This all started because families thought that ML and NM would be coaching them. Then after the families signed up, they removed those coaches. I would leave too. MV isn't a good coach.

CW is the coach.

Of which teams?

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Anonymous wrote:Not a FVU parent (or a coach) but FVU was stupid to fire the only two winning coaches. ML was clearly successful with the 2010s. And NM was clearly successful with the 2007s who are now well placed in colleges around the U.S. What other FVU coach has been successful? Sadly, CWs successes are in the past. He may have been a good coach at one time but the writing is on the wall with the other FVU teams he’s coached. I can see why some FVU parents decided to leave given their new coaching assignment. The multiple mergers over the last two years have largely been a disaster.

There has to be reason NM was let go. Someone mentioned it earlier in the thread. What happened? BSC parents deserve to know. I don't think you can blindly blame on FVU alone. Although they don't seem to have a plan. Dumb. There has to be an reason he was let go. Wasn't he a long standing coach at MYS, too? Why didn't they hire him? Worried he's bringing his drama and baggage across the river to us.

He was let go because he is shady. He was getting paid for all these clubs but barely around to coach. FVU told him he needs to pick one club and actually coach. He is now using the FVU 10 girls for revenge and making promises he can't keep.

ML has been a very good coach, has been at almost every practice and game since taking on the 2010s, and had them in the playoffs every year. The problem is FVU was taken over by Brave in one of the far too many mergers. One needs to ask Brave leadership why they chose to let him and the others go. Outside of that, any other comment is pure speculation. I only hope the new coaches can match the effort and results.

FVU wanted ML to stay. He decided to leave. NM is the leader of the group. He was given an option to stay and refused. He left FVU not the other way around. They asked him to chose FVU over his many different job titles at many other clubs. NM had his hands in many buckets. He said no. And brave didn't want the merger either, ecnl forced their hand. I think ML could have stayed if he wanted but decided to go with NM. Everyone makes choices.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no dog in this fight as my DD is not at either BSC or FVU, but...

(1) Players should go where they'll get the best opportunity and coaching. Nothing shady about deciding it should be somewhere else after a coaching change and organizational dysfunction. Clubs bring in new players all the time, why should the players feel an obligation to the club? Esp. as compared to a coach that they think did well for their development? I would follow a coach who was good for my DD's development any day over a club.

(2) Coaches offering a choice to players after a move aren't "poaching." They are letting parents and players make their own decision about what is best for them among the available options.

(3) BSC waiting until after the playoffs to make these offers, if true, speaks positively to ML's commitment to his former team. Imagine the outrage if these offers had come in the middle of a playoff run? When should it have happened? At tryout times ML had barely even been told he was being let go by FVU.

(4) The rumors about the timing of the coaching decisions, contrary to the prior oral commitments, if true, speaks to troubling organizational issues on the girls side at FVU. As does the absence of any credible explanation for the sudden about face, or serious plan about girls coaching going forward.

No dog in the fight, eh?