Why do teens self-segregate along racial lines ?

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Anonymous wrote:Someone really said yoga is part of white culture? LOL 🤢 You can steal and water down everyone's culture as much as you want, but it will never be yours just because you participate.

Please. Soccer wasn't created in Latin America but it's definitely part of Latino culture. Yoga as practiced in the United States is by and large not part of Indian culture, yes it's appropriated and it's very much a part of White woman culture. Especially the ones that have a lot of fake spirituality.

Culture is often appropriated and transformed. I'm not sure how that can possibly be controversial.

white Americans have no culture.

White people that came here from places a long time ago like Ireland, England, Germany, Italy and all the other countries that people came here for a better life didn’t hang on to old cultures.

My father’s ancestors came to America 175 years ago. Back then people tended to marry from the old country, then from other countries in Europe. Soon Asians, South Americans, Africans and others emigrated to the US. They were more likely to hold on to their languages and food, ceremonies, etc. More recent in history Americans are marrying people who came here from different parts of the world.

There’s no such thing as white culture anywhere. The sooner people who become Americans branch out and make friends with a variety of people the sooner we’ll stop hurling insults at each other. We can dream anyway.

The term culture refers to "the customs, arts, social institutions, and achievements of a particular nation, people, or other social group."

Do you think it's an insult to say there is Black culture or Latino culture or Asian culture? Should those cultures be erased? Should Latino people stop speaking Spanish and dancing to Latin music?

Do you think there aren't social institutions in the United States that are created by and mostly led by White people? Do you you think White people in the United States have developed no music, art or food?

Of course there is White American culture. It doesn't mean all White people are the same just as there is a lot of diversity among Black, Latino and Asian people.

I think there are white american regional cultures but not really a cohesive white culture writ large as much. Of course, there are also black regional cultures, but additionally a larger black culture.

Come on, people listen to White country singers heavy metal music everywhere. People eat hot dogs everywhere. You are in denial.

People eat pizza everywhere too but that doesn't make anyone Italian wtf. Beyonce just put out a country album and there is. along history of black country music. Heavy metal music is extremely niche and most white people don't listen to it either. Weird.

Why is hip hop Black culture but country isn't White culture? This is your discomfort with naming things as White.

I never said anything of the sort. I don’t think it should be this way but black people have made it very clear that white hip hop artists will not be allowed on any large scale. Black people gate-keep to keep white people out of hip hop and it’s wrong. Just like it was wrong for white radio stations to exclude legitimate black country artists. Even so there are many white hip hop acts even internationally but the dominant black american culture rejects them outright based on skin color. Either bigotry is wrong or it is not. I think it’s wrong no matter who is being discriminatory.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this complex issue. I think you need to read about the history of the music industry to better understand it and not sound so ignorant.

I’m well versed in the history of hip hop thank you very much. Care to elaborate?

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Anonymous wrote:Spent a week this Summer at a teens’ coed summer camp and noticed this happening. The African-American kids in particular seemed to really self-segregate and only sit with AA kids during mealtimes.

Our troop is about 40% white, equal amount Asian/Indian, with a few Latinx and AA kids. But at summer camp 2025, they all just seemed to separate this way.

Why are kids still doing this in 2025? Any suggestions to stop it?

The same reasons adults do.

Sure, but that doesn’t make it ok; don’t you agree ?

DP but it doesn't make it wrong either. Forcing them to mix is wrong.

It’s a red flag for sure. Not associating with any other race than your own is not healthy or admirable in any way no matter what your excuse is. It’s wrong to discriminate based on skin color.

Doesn’t it depend on who is doing the self-segregating? My sense is that it’s not okay for white kids to self-segregate and exclude but it is okay for Black kids to do so.

Wow, just wow.

PP here. Is this wrong? This is my lived experience and I don’t even know what part of what I wrote is worthy of “wow”!

For instance, my kids’ (public) elementary school has an affinity group for Black students and a social worker who works exclusively with Black families in “Black needs”. They group the Black students together in classes and if there is a Black teacher, they give her all the Black students. I don’t think anyone - Black or white - has an issue with this, but you certainly wouldn’t do this for white students.

Then I see it in real life too. For example, it’s a joke about how white people aren’t invited to the cook out. No one is “challenging” or shaming them for not inviting Bob from the office. But if a white “progressive” person hosts a party, people and books like “White Fragility” ask the white people to think about why they don’t have any Black friends and suggests that means they’re racist.

Is this not everyone else’s experience too???

Yes of course that all happens but why would you promote such ignorance? Social discrimination based on race is wrong no matter who the culprit may be.

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Anonymous wrote:Spent a week this Summer at a teens’ coed summer camp and noticed this happening. The African-American kids in particular seemed to really self-segregate and only sit with AA kids during mealtimes.

Our troop is about 40% white, equal amount Asian/Indian, with a few Latinx and AA kids. But at summer camp 2025, they all just seemed to separate this way.

Why are kids still doing this in 2025? Any suggestions to stop it?

The same reasons adults do.

Sure, but that doesn’t make it ok; don’t you agree ?

DP but it doesn't make it wrong either. Forcing them to mix is wrong.

It’s a red flag for sure. Not associating with any other race than your own is not healthy or admirable in any way no matter what your excuse is. It’s wrong to discriminate based on skin color.

Doesn’t it depend on who is doing the self-segregating? My sense is that it’s not okay for white kids to self-segregate and exclude but it is okay for Black kids to do so.

Wow, just wow.

PP here. Is this wrong? This is my lived experience and I don’t even know what part of what I wrote is worthy of “wow”!

For instance, my kids’ (public) elementary school has an affinity group for Black students and a social worker who works exclusively with Black families in “Black needs”. They group the Black students together in classes and if there is a Black teacher, they give her all the Black students. I don’t think anyone - Black or white - has an issue with this, but you certainly wouldn’t do this for white students.

Then I see it in real life too. For example, it’s a joke about how white people aren’t invited to the cook out. No one is “challenging” or shaming them for not inviting Bob from the office. But if a white “progressive” person hosts a party, people and books like “White Fragility” ask the white people to think about why they don’t have any Black friends and suggests that means they’re racist.

Is this not everyone else’s experience too???

I'm white, originally from EE with no black people at all growing up. I have had people who I don't even know asking me to work for them (in US, not in EE/EU) when I didn't ask for work or need a job. Right now I'm asking a friend to hire a friend of a friend and give him a chance to enter our industry. He asked me if he was AA and he is. It took me a lot of convincing and I'm still waiting to hear if he is going to do it. They are even from the same country. If I'm not invited somewhere by black people, its because they don't like me as a person or it's because it's their party or anything but race. It is not my race that does me in.
When I go to Europe, I'm simply another white person. The minute I step off the plane is US, I'm reminded how good it is to be white.
No, don't group white students together and give them a white teacher. This has been going on for so long for the benefit of the whites that I feel it every single day and benefit from it. I wasn't even born here. I show up and I'm like the best thing ever without even doing anything. I did go on to work extremely hard to show that I am quite good, but it wasn't hard if I have back wind. I recognized it with the help of a black friend long ago. I'm thankful for him for pointing out that the apartment I wanted to rent, I got because I was white. Being white was my good credit. The apartment told me I had good credit. I was illegal. What credit?! I hadn't started building it yet.
When black people talk about being treated unfairly, white people need to talk about how well and then some they are being treated, but they don't. They take it as the norm.

Now go try and get a job as a white man at WMATA and see how that works for you. White skin is a liability in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:Spent a week this Summer at a teens’ coed summer camp and noticed this happening. The African-American kids in particular seemed to really self-segregate and only sit with AA kids during mealtimes.

Our troop is about 40% white, equal amount Asian/Indian, with a few Latinx and AA kids. But at summer camp 2025, they all just seemed to separate this way.

Why are kids still doing this in 2025? Any suggestions to stop it?

The same reasons adults do.

Sure, but that doesn’t make it ok; don’t you agree ?

DP but it doesn't make it wrong either. Forcing them to mix is wrong.

It’s a red flag for sure. Not associating with any other race than your own is not healthy or admirable in any way no matter what your excuse is. It’s wrong to discriminate based on skin color.

Doesn’t it depend on who is doing the self-segregating? My sense is that it’s not okay for white kids to self-segregate and exclude but it is okay for Black kids to do so.

Wow, just wow.

PP here. Is this wrong? This is my lived experience and I don’t even know what part of what I wrote is worthy of “wow”!

For instance, my kids’ (public) elementary school has an affinity group for Black students and a social worker who works exclusively with Black families in “Black needs”. They group the Black students together in classes and if there is a Black teacher, they give her all the Black students. I don’t think anyone - Black or white - has an issue with this, but you certainly wouldn’t do this for white students.

Then I see it in real life too. For example, it’s a joke about how white people aren’t invited to the cook out. No one is “challenging” or shaming them for not inviting Bob from the office. But if a white “progressive” person hosts a party, people and books like “White Fragility” ask the white people to think about why they don’t have any Black friends and suggests that means they’re racist.

Is this not everyone else’s experience too???

Holy crap! What school is this? George Wallace Middle School or something?

No, it is in a VERY liberal college town. I should add that in the last year, the school had to “officially” disband the Black affinity group due to the Dept of Education’s mandate - otherwise the school would risk losing its Title I status.

The school doesn’t have a written policy that it groups Black kids together, but when there’s one Black third grade teacher and two white third grade teachers, and all the Black kids get placed with the Black teacher… it’s pretty clear.

To my knowledge no parent of any race has an issue with this.

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Anonymous wrote:Spent a week this Summer at a teens’ coed summer camp and noticed this happening. The African-American kids in particular seemed to really self-segregate and only sit with AA kids during mealtimes.

Our troop is about 40% white, equal amount Asian/Indian, with a few Latinx and AA kids. But at summer camp 2025, they all just seemed to separate this way.

Why are kids still doing this in 2025? Any suggestions to stop it?

The same reasons adults do.

Sure, but that doesn’t make it ok; don’t you agree ?

DP but it doesn't make it wrong either. Forcing them to mix is wrong.

It’s a red flag for sure. Not associating with any other race than your own is not healthy or admirable in any way no matter what your excuse is. It’s wrong to discriminate based on skin color.

Doesn’t it depend on who is doing the self-segregating? My sense is that it’s not okay for white kids to self-segregate and exclude but it is okay for Black kids to do so.

Wow, just wow.

PP here. Is this wrong? This is my lived experience and I don’t even know what part of what I wrote is worthy of “wow”!

For instance, my kids’ (public) elementary school has an affinity group for Black students and a social worker who works exclusively with Black families in “Black needs”. They group the Black students together in classes and if there is a Black teacher, they give her all the Black students. I don’t think anyone - Black or white - has an issue with this, but you certainly wouldn’t do this for white students.

Then I see it in real life too. For example, it’s a joke about how white people aren’t invited to the cook out. No one is “challenging” or shaming them for not inviting Bob from the office. But if a white “progressive” person hosts a party, people and books like “White Fragility” ask the white people to think about why they don’t have any Black friends and suggests that means they’re racist.

Is this not everyone else’s experience too???

I'm white, originally from EE with no black people at all growing up. I have had people who I don't even know asking me to work for them (in US, not in EE/EU) when I didn't ask for work or need a job. Right now I'm asking a friend to hire a friend of a friend and give him a chance to enter our industry. He asked me if he was AA and he is. It took me a lot of convincing and I'm still waiting to hear if he is going to do it. They are even from the same country. If I'm not invited somewhere by black people, its because they don't like me as a person or it's because it's their party or anything but race. It is not my race that does me in.
When I go to Europe, I'm simply another white person. The minute I step off the plane is US, I'm reminded how good it is to be white.
No, don't group white students together and give them a white teacher. This has been going on for so long for the benefit of the whites that I feel it every single day and benefit from it. I wasn't even born here. I show up and I'm like the best thing ever without even doing anything. I did go on to work extremely hard to show that I am quite good, but it wasn't hard if I have back wind. I recognized it with the help of a black friend long ago. I'm thankful for him for pointing out that the apartment I wanted to rent, I got because I was white. Being white was my good credit. The apartment told me I had good credit. I was illegal. What credit?! I hadn't started building it yet.
When black people talk about being treated unfairly, white people need to talk about how well and then some they are being treated, but they don't. They take it as the norm.

White progressive people know they have a HUGE advantage in the U.S. They talk about it all the time. Their Black friends, like your Black friend, also like to point it out.

You say your “hard work” and being a “good” employee helped you keep your job. Are you sure it’s not just because you’re white? You are probably mediocre at best and only advancing in your career because of your race.

Shame on you for keeping an apartment you know you secured only because of your race.

DP: Read closer -- she did acknowledge that and it was literally her point.

Right, she acknowledged that she got both her job and her apartment due to her race.

But then she fell into a common white supremacy tactic where she believes that her “hard work” and being a “good employee” account for her success. No. It’s because she’s white.

Also she seems to think that merely acknowledging white privilege is enough. If she wants to walk the walk, she should’ve turned down the job and suggested they hire a more qualified minority candidate.

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That’s why parents should be careful not to send their kids where they will be a below 10% minority. Unfortunately Black parents don’t have that luxury but other races should take note.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids attend a school that's 50% hispanic (very few AA) and it's completely divided in racial lines. I have invited the entire class for my kid's birthday parties since K and not one Hispanic kid comes.

I don't think it's parents doing it. I have a pretty diverse group of friends.

My kids school is similar. After years of familiarity I am used to this. Hispanic families do whole-family parties with drinking and so on and they don't want to feel judged by white people. They also don't want to drop their kid off with strangers. After building trust Hispanic moms are willing to do drop off playdates but it takes a LOT of bonding and they want to see how clean your place is. They don't respond to evites but if you send a note home with a personal touch (Larlo talks about Larlito all the time and really hopes he can come) they will show up.
You have to give off a warm vibe and the "I already have plenty of friends" vibe rampant around here is repellant to them.

In other words they self segregate. I live in an area with tons of Hispanic people and when my kid went to a majority Hispanic school we ran into the same issues. It’s not worth it. Finally transferred him to a 10/10 school and it was much better.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid has been attending a school where they are the only child of their race in most classrooms, for the last 4 years. So out of necessity, her friends have all been of other races. Most of the kids do not seem to care about race. However, the school is about 80% one race and some of the kids of this race don't mingle with any of the kids of other races. There is no racist behavior, they just self select into friend groups that are just their race.

Next year my kid will be attending a much more diverse school. No race makes up more than 50% of the school and for the first time, she will have a critical mass of kids of her same race. I am curious to see what happens. She already has three friends at the school -- two are mixed race and one is our race. I don't have specific hopes or expectations, I'm honestly just interested in it as a social experiment.

You’ve been subjecting your kid to this for too long. Good for you transferring her

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Anonymous wrote:That’s why parents should be careful not to send their kids where they will be a below 10% minority. Unfortunately Black parents don’t have that luxury but other races should take note.

Where do you invent some total BS like that? Are you completely ignorant about the many majority AA schools in the DC area?

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Anonymous wrote:Spent a week this Summer at a teens’ coed summer camp and noticed this happening. The African-American kids in particular seemed to really self-segregate and only sit with AA kids during mealtimes.

Our troop is about 40% white, equal amount Asian/Indian, with a few Latinx and AA kids. But at summer camp 2025, they all just seemed to separate this way.

Why are kids still doing this in 2025? Any suggestions to stop it?

The same reasons adults do.

Sure, but that doesn’t make it ok; don’t you agree ?

DP but it doesn't make it wrong either. Forcing them to mix is wrong.

It’s a red flag for sure. Not associating with any other race than your own is not healthy or admirable in any way no matter what your excuse is. It’s wrong to discriminate based on skin color.

Doesn’t it depend on who is doing the self-segregating? My sense is that it’s not okay for white kids to self-segregate and exclude but it is okay for Black kids to do so.

I think it goes back to the idea that Black kids need a “safe space” but white kids do not.

(Though personally I would understand if white kids DO need a safe space to be with white kids… 10 years ago, I’d say that is crazy but today, people are so aggressive with the race stuff, I would understand if everyone, all races, want to segregate MORE than they did 10 years ago).

I think what you are missing here is that White kids are generally surrounded by plenty of other White kids so their culture (you know, talking "white", styling their hair "white" (e.g. straight), engaging in activities that are predominantly done by white people in their communities -whether it be swimming, lacrosse, hunting) is constantly being validated. The notion it's not okay for White kids to hang out with other White kids is bizarre. Of course it's okay! It's the norm in our culture. And when Black and Asian kids hang out with them, the White kids are not expected to adjust their behavior beyond not being explicitly racist.

Black kids and other POC often are in settings where their cultures are not validated and the racism they experience is not acknowledged. Spending time with other kids that share their culture and experiences of racism is extremely helpful and in some cases a matter of survival.

Styling hair is not part of White culture. I don’t know anyone who hunts but all races swim. Lacrosse is a Canadian sport and Americans have taken it up. It’s not their culture. Black kids have American Black culture that they’ve created. It has nothing to do with ancestors from Africa. A lot of Latinos have traditions from their old country because they are typically more recent immigrants and they still speak their native language.

When it comes to black and white Americans whose families have been here for a long time I think the word culture is overused and misused.

Yes, all races swim, but some were explicitly banned from many pools for a long time. If you Google "top swimmers in the world" they are all White.

As far as importing something from Canada I'm not sure how that makes it not White culture. White women imported yoga from India and yoga is definitely part of White culture. Do other races participate in it? Of course! White people also listen to hip hop but hip hop is definitely part of Black culture.

Further: the central problem is white culture and cultural supremacy.

This graphic really helps illustrate the problem here in the U.S.

That is a partial illustration of the extremely problematic supremacy of white culture in America

Except that it's total BS. "White" people is a misnomer and does not objectively exist. Are Swedish people white? Because they certainly are not rugged individualists by any measure. Who comes up with this nonsense?

Obviously they are referring to American White culture, just like when you say Black culture you are thinking of Black American culture. Race is a social construct. It is not based on biology or ancestry, but it is a thing that exists impacts people's lives in real ways. Much of what we consider "American culture" was created and is controlled by White people. It is preposterous on its face to suggest there is no White American culture.

Speaking of social constructs, "culture" is much more of a social construct than "race".

Lol anything to avoid acknowledging the role of race in our society

What and why are you avoiding it?

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Anonymous wrote:Spent a week this Summer at a teens’ coed summer camp and noticed this happening. The African-American kids in particular seemed to really self-segregate and only sit with AA kids during mealtimes.

Our troop is about 40% white, equal amount Asian/Indian, with a few Latinx and AA kids. But at summer camp 2025, they all just seemed to separate this way.

Why are kids still doing this in 2025? Any suggestions to stop it?

The same reasons adults do.

Sure, but that doesn’t make it ok; don’t you agree ?

DP but it doesn't make it wrong either. Forcing them to mix is wrong.

It’s a red flag for sure. Not associating with any other race than your own is not healthy or admirable in any way no matter what your excuse is. It’s wrong to discriminate based on skin color.

Doesn’t it depend on who is doing the self-segregating? My sense is that it’s not okay for white kids to self-segregate and exclude but it is okay for Black kids to do so.

Wow, just wow.

PP here. Is this wrong? This is my lived experience and I don’t even know what part of what I wrote is worthy of “wow”!

For instance, my kids’ (public) elementary school has an affinity group for Black students and a social worker who works exclusively with Black families in “Black needs”. They group the Black students together in classes and if there is a Black teacher, they give her all the Black students. I don’t think anyone - Black or white - has an issue with this, but you certainly wouldn’t do this for white students.

Then I see it in real life too. For example, it’s a joke about how white people aren’t invited to the cook out. No one is “challenging” or shaming them for not inviting Bob from the office. But if a white “progressive” person hosts a party, people and books like “White Fragility” ask the white people to think about why they don’t have any Black friends and suggests that means they’re racist.

Is this not everyone else’s experience too???

Even MORE WOW! Speechless now really.

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Anonymous wrote:Spent a week this Summer at a teens’ coed summer camp and noticed this happening. The African-American kids in particular seemed to really self-segregate and only sit with AA kids during mealtimes.

Our troop is about 40% white, equal amount Asian/Indian, with a few Latinx and AA kids. But at summer camp 2025, they all just seemed to separate this way.

Why are kids still doing this in 2025? Any suggestions to stop it?

The same reasons adults do.

Sure, but that doesn’t make it ok; don’t you agree ?

DP but it doesn't make it wrong either. Forcing them to mix is wrong.

It’s a red flag for sure. Not associating with any other race than your own is not healthy or admirable in any way no matter what your excuse is. It’s wrong to discriminate based on skin color.

Doesn’t it depend on who is doing the self-segregating? My sense is that it’s not okay for white kids to self-segregate and exclude but it is okay for Black kids to do so.

Wow, just wow.

PP here. Is this wrong? This is my lived experience and I don’t even know what part of what I wrote is worthy of “wow”!

For instance, my kids’ (public) elementary school has an affinity group for Black students and a social worker who works exclusively with Black families in “Black needs”. They group the Black students together in classes and if there is a Black teacher, they give her all the Black students. I don’t think anyone - Black or white - has an issue with this, but you certainly wouldn’t do this for white students.

Then I see it in real life too. For example, it’s a joke about how white people aren’t invited to the cook out. No one is “challenging” or shaming them for not inviting Bob from the office. But if a white “progressive” person hosts a party, people and books like “White Fragility” ask the white people to think about why they don’t have any Black friends and suggests that means they’re racist.

Is this not everyone else’s experience too???

I'm white, originally from EE with no black people at all growing up. I have had people who I don't even know asking me to work for them (in US, not in EE/EU) when I didn't ask for work or need a job. Right now I'm asking a friend to hire a friend of a friend and give him a chance to enter our industry. He asked me if he was AA and he is. It took me a lot of convincing and I'm still waiting to hear if he is going to do it. They are even from the same country. If I'm not invited somewhere by black people, its because they don't like me as a person or it's because it's their party or anything but race. It is not my race that does me in.
When I go to Europe, I'm simply another white person. The minute I step off the plane is US, I'm reminded how good it is to be white.
No, don't group white students together and give them a white teacher. This has been going on for so long for the benefit of the whites that I feel it every single day and benefit from it. I wasn't even born here. I show up and I'm like the best thing ever without even doing anything. I did go on to work extremely hard to show that I am quite good, but it wasn't hard if I have back wind. I recognized it with the help of a black friend long ago. I'm thankful for him for pointing out that the apartment I wanted to rent, I got because I was white. Being white was my good credit. The apartment told me I had good credit. I was illegal. What credit?! I hadn't started building it yet.
When black people talk about being treated unfairly, white people need to talk about how well and then some they are being treated, but they don't. They take it as the norm.

Now go try and get a job as a white man at WMATA and see how that works for you. White skin is a liability in DC.

Good point. WMATA has a long history of discriminatory hiring practices, which is particularly galling since it's a public entity. As bad as it is trying to get hired as a white person, it's even more difficult if you're Hispanic or Asian.

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Anonymous wrote:Spent a week this Summer at a teens’ coed summer camp and noticed this happening. The African-American kids in particular seemed to really self-segregate and only sit with AA kids during mealtimes.

Our troop is about 40% white, equal amount Asian/Indian, with a few Latinx and AA kids. But at summer camp 2025, they all just seemed to separate this way.

Why are kids still doing this in 2025? Any suggestions to stop it?

The same reasons adults do.

Sure, but that doesn’t make it ok; don’t you agree ?

DP but it doesn't make it wrong either. Forcing them to mix is wrong.

It’s a red flag for sure. Not associating with any other race than your own is not healthy or admirable in any way no matter what your excuse is. It’s wrong to discriminate based on skin color.

Doesn’t it depend on who is doing the self-segregating? My sense is that it’s not okay for white kids to self-segregate and exclude but it is okay for Black kids to do so.

Wow, just wow.

PP here. Is this wrong? This is my lived experience and I don’t even know what part of what I wrote is worthy of “wow”!

For instance, my kids’ (public) elementary school has an affinity group for Black students and a social worker who works exclusively with Black families in “Black needs”. They group the Black students together in classes and if there is a Black teacher, they give her all the Black students. I don’t think anyone - Black or white - has an issue with this, but you certainly wouldn’t do this for white students.

Then I see it in real life too. For example, it’s a joke about how white people aren’t invited to the cook out. No one is “challenging” or shaming them for not inviting Bob from the office. But if a white “progressive” person hosts a party, people and books like “White Fragility” ask the white people to think about why they don’t have any Black friends and suggests that means they’re racist.

Is this not everyone else’s experience too???

I'm white, originally from EE with no black people at all growing up. I have had people who I don't even know asking me to work for them (in US, not in EE/EU) when I didn't ask for work or need a job. Right now I'm asking a friend to hire a friend of a friend and give him a chance to enter our industry. He asked me if he was AA and he is. It took me a lot of convincing and I'm still waiting to hear if he is going to do it. They are even from the same country. If I'm not invited somewhere by black people, its because they don't like me as a person or it's because it's their party or anything but race. It is not my race that does me in.
When I go to Europe, I'm simply another white person. The minute I step off the plane is US, I'm reminded how good it is to be white.
No, don't group white students together and give them a white teacher. This has been going on for so long for the benefit of the whites that I feel it every single day and benefit from it. I wasn't even born here. I show up and I'm like the best thing ever without even doing anything. I did go on to work extremely hard to show that I am quite good, but it wasn't hard if I have back wind. I recognized it with the help of a black friend long ago. I'm thankful for him for pointing out that the apartment I wanted to rent, I got because I was white. Being white was my good credit. The apartment told me I had good credit. I was illegal. What credit?! I hadn't started building it yet.
When black people talk about being treated unfairly, white people need to talk about how well and then some they are being treated, but they don't. They take it as the norm.

White progressive people know they have a HUGE advantage in the U.S. They talk about it all the time. Their Black friends, like your Black friend, also like to point it out.

You say your “hard work” and being a “good” employee helped you keep your job. Are you sure it’s not just because you’re white? You are probably mediocre at best and only advancing in your career because of your race.

Shame on you for keeping an apartment you know you secured only because of your race.

DP: Read closer -- she did acknowledge that and it was literally her point.

Right, she acknowledged that she got both her job and her apartment due to her race.

But then she fell into a common white supremacy tactic where she believes that her “hard work” and being a “good employee” account for her success. No. It’s because she’s white.

Also she seems to think that merely acknowledging white privilege is enough. If she wants to walk the walk, she should’ve turned down the job and suggested they hire a more qualified minority candidate.

I commend your skillful trolling. Had me there for a sec.

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Anonymous wrote:That’s why parents should be careful not to send their kids where they will be a below 10% minority. Unfortunately Black parents don’t have that luxury but other races should take note.

Huh? DCPS is a majority-black school district. So are many in the South.

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Anonymous wrote:Spent a week this Summer at a teens’ coed summer camp and noticed this happening. The African-American kids in particular seemed to really self-segregate and only sit with AA kids during mealtimes.

Our troop is about 40% white, equal amount Asian/Indian, with a few Latinx and AA kids. But at summer camp 2025, they all just seemed to separate this way.

Why are kids still doing this in 2025? Any suggestions to stop it?

The same reasons adults do.

Sure, but that doesn’t make it ok; don’t you agree ?

DP but it doesn't make it wrong either. Forcing them to mix is wrong.

It’s a red flag for sure. Not associating with any other race than your own is not healthy or admirable in any way no matter what your excuse is. It’s wrong to discriminate based on skin color.

Doesn’t it depend on who is doing the self-segregating? My sense is that it’s not okay for white kids to self-segregate and exclude but it is okay for Black kids to do so.

Wow, just wow.

PP here. Is this wrong? This is my lived experience and I don’t even know what part of what I wrote is worthy of “wow”!

For instance, my kids’ (public) elementary school has an affinity group for Black students and a social worker who works exclusively with Black families in “Black needs”. They group the Black students together in classes and if there is a Black teacher, they give her all the Black students. I don’t think anyone - Black or white - has an issue with this, but you certainly wouldn’t do this for white students.

Then I see it in real life too. For example, it’s a joke about how white people aren’t invited to the cook out. No one is “challenging” or shaming them for not inviting Bob from the office. But if a white “progressive” person hosts a party, people and books like “White Fragility” ask the white people to think about why they don’t have any Black friends and suggests that means they’re racist.

Is this not everyone else’s experience too???

I'm white, originally from EE with no black people at all growing up. I have had people who I don't even know asking me to work for them (in US, not in EE/EU) when I didn't ask for work or need a job. Right now I'm asking a friend to hire a friend of a friend and give him a chance to enter our industry. He asked me if he was AA and he is. It took me a lot of convincing and I'm still waiting to hear if he is going to do it. They are even from the same country. If I'm not invited somewhere by black people, its because they don't like me as a person or it's because it's their party or anything but race. It is not my race that does me in.
When I go to Europe, I'm simply another white person. The minute I step off the plane is US, I'm reminded how good it is to be white.
No, don't group white students together and give them a white teacher. This has been going on for so long for the benefit of the whites that I feel it every single day and benefit from it. I wasn't even born here. I show up and I'm like the best thing ever without even doing anything. I did go on to work extremely hard to show that I am quite good, but it wasn't hard if I have back wind. I recognized it with the help of a black friend long ago. I'm thankful for him for pointing out that the apartment I wanted to rent, I got because I was white. Being white was my good credit. The apartment told me I had good credit. I was illegal. What credit?! I hadn't started building it yet.
When black people talk about being treated unfairly, white people need to talk about how well and then some they are being treated, but they don't. They take it as the norm.

Now go try and get a job as a white man at WMATA and see how that works for you. White skin is a liability in DC.

Being brown is a universal liability, even in brown countries where whites ruled. Colonialism has done a number on human brains.