ICE Arrests NYC Comptroller and mayoral candidate Brad Lander

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ICE agents haven’t broken any laws.

Grandstanding politicians and a judge have broken the law.

No federal agents will be tried for anything.

Some politicians and judges might go to trial.

Answer this:

What law did the politicians and judge break?

Hint: None.

What laws did ICE break in arresting Lander?

False arrest - ICE falsely accused Lander of assault when there is no evidence he committed assault. They also had no warrant or probably cause, which means ICE's actions may constitute false arrest and a violation of the Fourth Amendment

Due Process violation - arresting someone based on false accusations and without legal justification can be illegal violations of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments.

That said, ICE may have qualified immunity, which does not mean they are innocent of those violations, it just gives them some protection against criminal prosecution but they could still face civil suits based on those violations.

"False arrest - ICE falsely accused Lander of assault when there is no evidence he committed assault. They also had no warrant or probably cause, which means ICE's actions may constitute false arrest and a violation of the Fourth Amendment"

Hmmm, so sure of yourself on the bolded text. Then you switch to "may". Why is that?

I'm sure you are feverishly reviewing footage and have all the answers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ICE agents haven’t broken any laws.

Grandstanding politicians and a judge have broken the law.

No federal agents will be tried for anything.

Some politicians and judges might go to trial.

Answer this:

What law did the politicians and judge break?

Hint: None.

What laws did ICE break in arresting Lander?

False arrest - ICE falsely accused Lander of assault when there is no evidence he committed assault. They also had no warrant or probably cause, which means ICE's actions may constitute false arrest and a violation of the Fourth Amendment

Due Process violation - arresting someone based on false accusations and without legal justification can be illegal violations of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments.

That said, ICE may have qualified immunity, which does not mean they are innocent of those violations, it just gives them some protection against criminal prosecution but they could still face civil suits based on those violations.

"False arrest - ICE falsely accused Lander of assault when there is no evidence he committed assault. They also had no warrant or probably cause, which means ICE's actions may constitute false arrest and a violation of the Fourth Amendment"

Hmmm, so sure of yourself on the bolded text. Then you switch to "may". Why is that?

I'm sure you are feverishly reviewing footage and have all the answers.

I have yet to see any evidence to prove the claims against Lander. If you want me to not be so sure then you need to provide evidence that Lander assaulted ICE.

As for the "may" context and reading comprehension are not your strong suit. As to whether ICE will face repercussions is up to Lander and his lawyers and whether they want to pursue it. That's why it's conditioned and why I used "may."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And yes it’s my business. You repeating otherwise endlessly only works in uneducated communities

Can you provide a link to any law or regulation that specifies that ICE agents have a duty to identify themselves to the general public? I’ll wait.

Anonymous wrote:You people are so full of bluster and threats. Get over yourself. No one is afraid of you.

Can you point out the threat in my post? I articulated the legal consequences of interfering with an ICE arrest.

Anonymous wrote:It’s not lawful to arrest people without probable cause. Just fyi.

Interfering with an ICE arrest or investigation is illegal. To arrest illegals ICE requires reasonable suspicion, a lower standard than probable cause. In the case of Mr. Lander, his actions were all the PC they needed.

Anonymous wrote:Answer this:

What law did the politicians and judge break?

Hint: None.

Obstructing an officer in the performance of their official duties.

Anonymous wrote:MAGA loves to talk about "good guys with guns" as if they are all these good samaritans stopping crime...

Yet if someone witnesses what by all appearances is a kidnapping being committed by a gang of unidentified, masked thugs and chooses to get involved to try and save that person, suddenly MAGA no longer believes in any of that "good guy" stuff.

I've always maintained MAGA and guns, MAGA and the "macho alpha" crap they try to project is a nothing but bunch of weak-ass cosplay. And it's MAGA that keeps proving me right.

What a twisted take. It’s illegal to shoot people if you aren’t sure what is happening. That’s a murder two charge.

[Anonymous]

ICE impersonation on the rise.

This whole secret police thing is going to get real agents killed.

Oh well.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/04/us/ice-impersonators-on-the-rise-arrests-made-as-authorities-issue-national-warning

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ICE impersonation on the rise.

This whole secret police thing is going to get real agents killed.

Oh well.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/04/us/ice-impersonators-on-the-rise-arrests-made-as-authorities-issue-national-warning

What’s going to get agents killed is left wing people doxxing them so some lunatic can take them out.

[Anonymous]

LEOs of all kinds take steps to avoid making their identities public. My DH is a LEO with a federal agency known for apprehending dangerous individuals. Obviously he doesn't want his face out there. Dangerous people have dangerous friends and associates who have no qualms about harming a cop or his family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LEOs of all kinds take steps to avoid making their identities public. My DH is a LEO with a federal agency known for apprehending dangerous individuals. Obviously he doesn't want his face out there. Dangerous people have dangerous friends and associates who have no qualms about harming a cop or his family.

The premise of your defense is BS. People working construction sites, picking produce, bussing tables are not dangerous people.

“ICE” is abducting brown people without cause. That’s not law enforcement and it’s unconstitutional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ICE impersonation on the rise.

This whole secret police thing is going to get real agents killed.

Oh well.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/04/us/ice-impersonators-on-the-rise-arrests-made-as-authorities-issue-national-warning

Idiots have impersonated law enforcement for decades. That you’re just catching on to it now doesn’t make it more prevalent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LEOs of all kinds take steps to avoid making their identities public. My DH is a LEO with a federal agency known for apprehending dangerous individuals. Obviously he doesn't want his face out there. Dangerous people have dangerous friends and associates who have no qualms about harming a cop or his family.

The premise of your defense is BS. People working construction sites, picking produce, bussing tables are not dangerous people.

“ICE” is abducting brown people without cause. That’s not law enforcement and it’s unconstitutional.

It’s called reasonable suspicion. It’s a legal term. You can look it up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ICE impersonation on the rise.

This whole secret police thing is going to get real agents killed.

Oh well.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/04/us/ice-impersonators-on-the-rise-arrests-made-as-authorities-issue-national-warning

What’s going to get agents killed is left wing people doxxing them so some lunatic can take them out.

Why do you hate accountability? Is it because having a secret police allows them to do whatever they want without having to answer to their employers, the American people?

Someone did all this about 80 years ago and we solved that problem. We will solve it again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LEOs of all kinds take steps to avoid making their identities public. My DH is a LEO with a federal agency known for apprehending dangerous individuals. Obviously he doesn't want his face out there. Dangerous people have dangerous friends and associates who have no qualms about harming a cop or his family.

The premise of your defense is BS. People working construction sites, picking produce, bussing tables are not dangerous people.

“ICE” is abducting brown people without cause. That’s not law enforcement and it’s unconstitutional.

It’s called reasonable suspicion. It’s a legal term. You can look it up.

Based on what, that they are brown and work for a living?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ICE impersonation on the rise.

This whole secret police thing is going to get real agents killed.

Oh well.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/04/us/ice-impersonators-on-the-rise-arrests-made-as-authorities-issue-national-warning

Idiots have impersonated law enforcement for decades. That you’re just catching on to it now doesn’t make it more prevalent.

You are in denial. It’s understandable.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/traversmark/2024/04/26/3-ways-cults-bait-and-trap-common-people-according-to-a-psychologist/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LEOs of all kinds take steps to avoid making their identities public. My DH is a LEO with a federal agency known for apprehending dangerous individuals. Obviously he doesn't want his face out there. Dangerous people have dangerous friends and associates who have no qualms about harming a cop or his family.

The premise of your defense is BS. People working construction sites, picking produce, bussing tables are not dangerous people.

“ICE” is abducting brown people without cause. That’s not law enforcement and it’s unconstitutional.

+1000%. Even ICE's own data reveals that only 2.5% of the people they are arresting and detaining have any kind of prior criminal record whatsoever. That's substantially lower than the general US population.

IF they were trying to capture MS-13 members that would be a credible argument and with those kinds of people they should take extra precautions. But again, per ICE's own data, 97.5% of the people they are going after have NO gang affiliation or criminal record or anything whatsoever. MOST of the people being arrested and detained are NOT "dangerous people with dangerous friends and associates."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ICE impersonation on the rise.

This whole secret police thing is going to get real agents killed.

Oh well.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/04/us/ice-impersonators-on-the-rise-arrests-made-as-authorities-issue-national-warning

What’s going to get agents killed is left wing people doxxing them so some lunatic can take them out.

Why do you hate accountability? Is it because having a secret police allows them to do whatever they want without having to answer to their employers, the American people?

Someone did all this about 80 years ago and we solved that problem. We will solve it again.

Why are you so desperate to have people who are simply doing their jobs doxxed? Do you think this is the way the left will get rid of ICE? We know they want to defund them. Is this method even more effective in your mind?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ICE impersonation on the rise.

This whole secret police thing is going to get real agents killed.

Oh well.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/04/us/ice-impersonators-on-the-rise-arrests-made-as-authorities-issue-national-warning

What’s going to get agents killed is left wing people doxxing them so some lunatic can take them out.

People typically only get doxxed when they behave like thugs and scumbags