Does anyone thinking about leaving fed job (or taking a break) if forced to RTO 5 days a week?

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Anonymous wrote:People here need to consider how this plays politically. The regular tax-paying working people really don’t want to hear that there are feds making good money off their tax dollars while working from home. I’m a liberal and even I kind of feel that way sometimes.

Well the regular tax-paying people should understand that the positions that pay relatively well generally require advanced degrees and skill sets.

If they’re jealous that an attorney is making 150k while working from home a few days per week, then why not go to law school, pass the bar, move to the DC area, and apply for one of these jobs?

The reality is the people who are the most upset over this are people who never left their hometowns, maybe made it through some basic major at a state flagship (or perhaps some local commuter school), and would never even bother to move up here and try to do the work we are doing. And I know this b/c I grew up in a mid size southern city that has gone majorly MAGA and this is exactly the situation many of the Trump supporters I know are in.

And why is *this* what they’re upset about? What about all the corporate donations buying out our politicians? What about tax breaks for the wealthy?

Some GS level fed being able to log off at home by 3:30 to pick up their kids from the bus stop is not the problem in this country …

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Anonymous wrote:Great so I work 7-3:30 and don’t answer after hours calls, excited to not n ed to work in my home,

When I was 5 days in person, that was how it worked. You couldn't schedule a meeting after 3:00 because everybody had van pools to catch. None of us had work phones (no budget). Overtime required a true emergency, as in literal lives at risk.

It's fine, it's just very different from what some managers have become accustomed to. Everything is slower and requires more planning when people don't have flexibility.

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Anonymous wrote:My private sector DH is the higher earner and the only reason we are tethered to this area is because of my fed job. It would not be worth it to our family to stay in this area with one parent having to be in an office 5 days per week (the added cost of after care, commuting, etc.) and stress on our family would just suck.

I’d first search for another job in this area, I have feelers out and am pretty sure I could land somewhere. But if nothing works out, we could just move to a lower COL area near family and live off my DH’s income. We have 13 years of home equity we could use to buy a nice home with cash (or small mortgage) elsewhere.

I hate thinking like this though because I know the MAGA sociopaths would love the idea of a woman leaving the workforce and a family moving out of the DC area.

Okay? Lots of families have two full time working parents, with long daycare hours or split shifts.

If you don’t have to live near your DH job, then you are free to live near YOUR job, so your commute is not that long, so why is this so impactful you will move over it?

And that’s exactly what we as a society should be discouraging. Allow parents to work with WFH or hybrid arrangements so that kids are not sitting in daycare for 10 hrs, it’s not good for the kids. Support working parents and we might get a society with more functional people, destroy and overwork families and we will deserve every bit of dysfunction coming our way.

I am not a Fed btw, I do feel strongly about this issue though. If hybrid work environment is getting the work done and a family is able to have healthier meals, plus their kids spend more time with parents then what exactly is the problem? This should be a no brainer, I can understand PPs for argument coming from an uneducated person but not from a supposedly educated person. Shame on you, PP!

This. They set up a situation where people have to both work to make ends meet but then make childcare impossible and then are wondering why people aren't having babies.

That explains why the birth rate has cratered in the last 4 years.

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Anonymous wrote:My current plan is:

There is no enough office space for everyone to go back, I hope I can keep my remote status.

If I have to RTO 5 days a week, I will stick around for a while, at the meanwhile I will try to find another remote job. If I cannot find a job, I may decide to take a few years of break and try to come back when remote policy will be available again. I very much want to come back and work till retirement, since I have 15-20 years of service already, I don't want to give up, but I don't want to RTO 5 days a week too. My biggest concern is --- it will be very difficult to find a position in the future, I may not be able to come back.

Quit

Please

Now

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Anonymous wrote:People here need to consider how this plays politically. The regular tax-paying working people really don’t want to hear that there are feds making good money off their tax dollars while working from home. I’m a liberal and even I kind of feel that way sometimes.

Well why, if the work is being done?

Yes, the government well known for its efficiency and competence. Honestly, if Trump wanted to actually improve the government he’d bring back the civil service exam. I’ve worked with some outstandingly stupid government employees.

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Anonymous wrote:Great so I work 7-3:30 and don’t answer after hours calls, excited to not n ed to work in my home,

Typical Fed worker.

Fire 50% now!

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Hoping for more federal jobs becoming available for younger generation when all the old folks finally start retiring.

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I’m torn. The pay is higher and the hours shorter in commercial but the work is boring. But I’m not sure I want to stick around to be sh** on by Trump and the Republicans.

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Anonymous wrote:Hoping for more federal jobs becoming available for younger generation when all the old folks finally start retiring.

Unless you’re a veteran you don’t have a shot

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Anonymous wrote:Hoping for more federal jobs becoming available for younger generation when all the old folks finally start retiring.

That's not really how it works. The people ready for retirement are mostly (not always) those who have the least problem with RTO.
The level below them, who are experienced enough to replace them, are in the parenting years and typically value flexibility. RTO is a problem for them. (If you are in this group and can RTO, there are many opportunities already.)
The younger (late 20s) group is fine with RTO now but will enter the parenting years very soon. They don't have enough experience yet to replace the retirees.
Early 20s are a rarity in government, outside a few programs like PMF.

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Anonymous wrote:Hoping for more federal jobs becoming available for younger generation when all the old folks finally start retiring.

Unless you’re a veteran you don’t have a shot

We can't find qualified applicants in my field.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m torn. The pay is higher and the hours shorter in commercial but the work is boring. But I’m not sure I want to stick around to be sh** on by Trump and the Republicans.

Become the dark state he loves to complain about so much.

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Anonymous wrote:Hoping for more federal jobs becoming available for younger generation when all the old folks finally start retiring.

Unless you’re a veteran you don’t have a shot

We can't find qualified applicants in my field.

Ours aren’t qualified either but yet they still get hired.

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Anonymous wrote:Hoping for more federal jobs becoming available for younger generation when all the old folks finally start retiring.

Actually, the opposite will happen. Most of the young people in my department are the ones most interested in WFH for various reasons. A lot of older people are fine with RTO.

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Anonymous wrote:Hoping for more federal jobs becoming available for younger generation when all the old folks finally start retiring.

Actually, the opposite will happen. Most of the young people in my department are the ones most interested in WFH for various reasons. A lot of older people are fine with RTO.

The older ones know they won't get hired anywhere else.