Did you really think Kamala would win? Deep down inside, did you?

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Anonymous wrote:I knew she was gonna lose because she is the worst candidate I’ve ever seen in my life.

It’s not racism or misogyny. Yes there are people who would not vote for a woman of color, but there are way way more people who would vote for her because she’s a woman of color.

Imagine she’s as good as Obama, she would definitely have another Obama landslide, or at least won.

This is a very sexist response. I thought she was an excellent candidate. Obama got a pass on a lot of things because he was a man. To paraphrase Van Jones, "The male candidate can be flawed, but the female candidate has to be flawless."

And yes, I did think she would win. Cheeto's attempt to overturn the government disqualifies him from office. To quote Michelle Obama, "How is this even close?"

I admit I’m 100% sexist, but in the other way. I want a woman president so badly but she is literally a moron who is afraid of Joe Rogan. How can she face other world leaders? Trump and Vance are not afraid of unfriendly news outlets, she can’t even handle a cnn townhall.

It’s just pathetic.

She went on Stern and he asked her why she loves Doritos and Raisin Bran

Trump talked about another man's p^nis size.....and cancelled interviews he knew he couldn't handle. I'm so tired of people hiding behind stupid excuses just admit you'd prefer a racist felon. Own it.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot say that I did. I had doubts.

I always hoped for her and has fingers crossed. But I knew for sure she wouldn't win being a woman. If Hillary Clinton didn't, there was no way Kamala Harris was going to. But after her debate with Trump and the Democratic convention, I really hoped she won. 68 million people sure did vote for her! Pretty good considering she is a woman and more than 50% of this country is full of morons.

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Anonymous wrote:White male, I voted for her even though I lean conservative. I honestly thought she was a shoo-in. I really thought enough of this country was tired of Trump...maybe not the policies he stands for, but the man himself, that they'd just say no. I was wrong.

I think what shocked me most was Latino men voting for him as much as they did, given his anti-immigrant rhetoric.

Maybe because they are not a monolith and don’t associate themselves with illegals.

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The Trump administration is pro-legal immigration. They are against ILLEGAL immigration. Democrats love to conflate the two. Those who waited years to come here legally aren't about to support the millions who think they can just jump the line.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot say that I did. I had doubts.

I don't waste my.vote on a candidate I think will lose. Of course, I thought she would win but I learned a valuable lesson and that is NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE STUPIDITY, RACISM, AND MISOGYNY OF AMERICA.

Ugh. You sound like all the unhinged LWNJs on FB, copying and pasting this idiocy. Grow up.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot say that I did. I had doubts.

I don't waste my.vote on a candidate I think will lose. Of course, I thought she would win but I learned a valuable lesson and that is NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE STUPIDITY, RACISM, AND MISOGYNY OF AMERICA.

Ugh. You sound like all the unhinged LWNJs on FB, copying and pasting this idiocy. Grow up.

+1 They sound mentally ill and brainwashed

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Anonymous wrote:And, yeah, we are all white, and all supported Harris, but knew most white men and many white women wouldn't.

This kind of stupidity just makes me laugh. Let's imagine a woman was the Republican candidate, and a man was the Democrat. Would you vote for the woman? Because, you know, she's a woman and all... don't "women support other women"?

Same goes for the race card. Would you vote for a black Republican (man or woman) simply because they were black? NO. You wouldn't vote for the Republican, period. So why on earth can't you people get it through your head that Republican voters aren't going to vote for a Democrat? Whether they are man, woman, black, white, purple, other. You wouldn't, so don't expect the opposite to be true.

Harris didn't lose because of "misogyny or racism." She lost because more Americans wanted a Republican president. Get over it.

Even if the Dems put up a candidate like Trump. I would never vote for a Republican so I we could either write in or skip.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot say that I did. I had doubts.

I don't waste my.vote on a candidate I think will lose. Of course, I thought she would win but I learned a valuable lesson and that is NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE STUPIDITY, RACISM, AND MISOGYNY OF AMERICA.

Ugh. You sound like all the unhinged LWNJs on FB, copying and pasting this idiocy. Grow up.

Thank you. You just proved me right!

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Anonymous wrote:I never felt like she had it in the bag, but I will admit that I’m quite surprised that Trump won by this margin. I thought it would be close. While it’s no shocker that she lost, I will never be able to understand how so many people could vote for someone as ill suited for the job as Trump, especially when they’ve had the last 8 years to get to know him. What made Trump more palatable than the other Republican candidates who ran? That’s the thing I can’t grasp.

Why is the American electorate so fickle? They were lukewarm on Trump in 2016, turned off by his performance as president in 2020, he’s done nothing to become more appealing since then, and now they give him a mandate? He has never produced any credible plans to solve any of the issues he runs on. He admitted he has a concept of a plan…4 years after serving a 4 year term as president, during which he repeatedly said he was just weeks away from unveiling the most beautiful plan. We’re about to have another octogenarian at the helm. Trump talks about absurd nonsense. He gets confused easily. He’s having speech issues. He’s been complaining at rallies that he’s tired. Remember when those types of issues made people concerned about Biden’s presidency? But let’s embrace Trump’s decline!

It's baffling. He's does what he does best, cons people. Lots believe the election was stolen in 2020. A wealthy guy (largely inherited from daddy) from New York has duped the working class Joe from Ohio that he cares about their struggles. Hilarious.

It's only baffling to out of touch morons like you. Thinking like this is why she lost so bad, keep it up, it's nice watching you whiny little babies self-destruct.

What exactly did Trump do for the middle class during his last term? He inherited the stable economy from Obama. He locked migrant kids in cages, but I don't think that made life for the middle class easier. He mishandled the pandemic by not taking action soon enough and arguing with health officials. He gave out unemployment and stimulus checks, but they obviously contributed to the state the economy is currently in, aka "Biden's" inflation. You keep calling Dems out of touch but the Republicans are merely pretending to be in touch. High tariffs on foreign goods will not lower housing and grocery prices. You do know the VP elect insulted the working class in his book right? Trump doesn't care about you. He cares about his fragile ego and probably wants to be able to pardon himself.

--Kids in cages? Obama did it first, but the media/leftists didn't care until big bad orange man did it.
--Pandemic: Trump immediately tried to close the borders to China, from whence the virus originated, and was called a racist xenophobic blah blah blah. Democratic leaders in NY and San Francisco went out of their way to encourage people to congregate and attend Chinese events as a middle finger to the big bad orange man. I clearly remember this - do you? Were you even aware? Trump, as you well know, pushed Operation Warp Speed to develop the covid vaccine. The rest? It was literally an unprecedented situation and therefore it's impossible to (accurately) say a Democratic president would've handled it better.
--Stimmies: Yes, the Trump checks contributed to inflation. But the "Inflation Reduction Act" (ha - even Biden admitted it wasn't really about reducing inflation) and American Rescue Plan Act were hugely inflationary. Further, the Biden admin insisted that inflation was transitory when it decidedly was not. It then trumpeted the decreasing RATE of inflation without acknowledging that prices were (and are) still inflated.
--Tariffs: Admittedly, I am concerned about the near-term effects of tariffs on the working class's wallets. However, the reasoning behind them is SO important: Trump wants to encourage, whether with a carrot or with a stick, companies to manufacture in America again. Reshore jobs! Buy American! I fully support this ambition. I sincerely hope for progress on this front.
--I read Hillbilly Elegy. Did you? I am from a working class family and grew up in a working class area. I didn't find Hillbilly Elegy to be insulting to the working class. I found it to be largely accurate of my own experience. Just because certain parts of it may be unflattering, doesn't mean it's insulting. This is a big issue with the left of calling facts they don't like "racist" or "hate speech". The truth isn't always pretty.

OP of the post you responded to. Cant blame this one on Dems. Trump definitely mismanaged the pandemic. If he handled it well, he'd have been reelected. He ignored advice from officials and shown disdain for things like masking. No proof that these gatherings you mentioned spearheaded anything.

Ok, but Fox News refers to this as Biden’s inflation and his alone.

Someone said his merchandise is made in China already, and I think consumers say they will pay more for American made goods, but in reality... If rising prices are a concern, increasing tariffs on foreign goods seems counterproductive.

No, and don't plan to. Eh, maybe for shits and giggles. Fair, but I feel that leeway has been given because if a Dem wrote this you would see it as condescending.

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Anonymous wrote:I never felt like she had it in the bag, but I will admit that I’m quite surprised that Trump won by this margin. I thought it would be close. While it’s no shocker that she lost, I will never be able to understand how so many people could vote for someone as ill suited for the job as Trump, especially when they’ve had the last 8 years to get to know him. What made Trump more palatable than the other Republican candidates who ran? That’s the thing I can’t grasp.

Why is the American electorate so fickle? They were lukewarm on Trump in 2016, turned off by his performance as president in 2020, he’s done nothing to become more appealing since then, and now they give him a mandate? He has never produced any credible plans to solve any of the issues he runs on. He admitted he has a concept of a plan…4 years after serving a 4 year term as president, during which he repeatedly said he was just weeks away from unveiling the most beautiful plan. We’re about to have another octogenarian at the helm. Trump talks about absurd nonsense. He gets confused easily. He’s having speech issues. He’s been complaining at rallies that he’s tired. Remember when those types of issues made people concerned about Biden’s presidency? But let’s embrace Trump’s decline!

It's baffling. He's does what he does best, cons people. Lots believe the election was stolen in 2020. A wealthy guy (largely inherited from daddy) from New York has duped the working class Joe from Ohio that he cares about their struggles. Hilarious.

It's only baffling to out of touch morons like you. Thinking like this is why she lost so bad, keep it up, it's nice watching you whiny little babies self-destruct.

What exactly did Trump do for the middle class during his last term? He inherited the stable economy from Obama. He locked migrant kids in cages, but I don't think that made life for the middle class easier. He mishandled the pandemic by not taking action soon enough and arguing with health officials. He gave out unemployment and stimulus checks, but they obviously contributed to the state the economy is currently in, aka "Biden's" inflation. You keep calling Dems out of touch but the Republicans are merely pretending to be in touch. High tariffs on foreign goods will not lower housing and grocery prices. You do know the VP elect insulted the working class in his book right? Trump doesn't care about you. He cares about his fragile ego and probably wants to be able to pardon himself.

--Kids in cages? Obama did it first, but the media/leftists didn't care until big bad orange man did it.
--Pandemic: Trump immediately tried to close the borders to China, from whence the virus originated, and was called a racist xenophobic blah blah blah. Democratic leaders in NY and San Francisco went out of their way to encourage people to congregate and attend Chinese events as a middle finger to the big bad orange man. I clearly remember this - do you? Were you even aware? Trump, as you well know, pushed Operation Warp Speed to develop the covid vaccine. The rest? It was literally an unprecedented situation and therefore it's impossible to (accurately) say a Democratic president would've handled it better.
--Stimmies: Yes, the Trump checks contributed to inflation. But the "Inflation Reduction Act" (ha - even Biden admitted it wasn't really about reducing inflation) and American Rescue Plan Act were hugely inflationary. Further, the Biden admin insisted that inflation was transitory when it decidedly was not. It then trumpeted the decreasing RATE of inflation without acknowledging that prices were (and are) still inflated.
--Tariffs: Admittedly, I am concerned about the near-term effects of tariffs on the working class's wallets. However, the reasoning behind them is SO important: Trump wants to encourage, whether with a carrot or with a stick, companies to manufacture in America again. Reshore jobs! Buy American! I fully support this ambition. I sincerely hope for progress on this front.
--I read Hillbilly Elegy. Did you? I am from a working class family and grew up in a working class area. I didn't find Hillbilly Elegy to be insulting to the working class. I found it to be largely accurate of my own experience. Just because certain parts of it may be unflattering, doesn't mean it's insulting. This is a big issue with the left of calling facts they don't like "racist" or "hate speech". The truth isn't always pretty.

+ a million
Well said.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot say that I did. I had doubts.

No need to go deep down inside. Even on surface, answer was no. Less than 50% of those who voted held hope that our fellow citizens were not as sexist and racist, and hoped thrir fellow citizens were properly informed before voting. But clearly it was too much to hope for.

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Anonymous wrote:I never felt like she had it in the bag, but I will admit that I’m quite surprised that Trump won by this margin. I thought it would be close. While it’s no shocker that she lost, I will never be able to understand how so many people could vote for someone as ill suited for the job as Trump, especially when they’ve had the last 8 years to get to know him. What made Trump more palatable than the other Republican candidates who ran? That’s the thing I can’t grasp.

Why is the American electorate so fickle? They were lukewarm on Trump in 2016, turned off by his performance as president in 2020, he’s done nothing to become more appealing since then, and now they give him a mandate? He has never produced any credible plans to solve any of the issues he runs on. He admitted he has a concept of a plan…4 years after serving a 4 year term as president, during which he repeatedly said he was just weeks away from unveiling the most beautiful plan. We’re about to have another octogenarian at the helm. Trump talks about absurd nonsense. He gets confused easily. He’s having speech issues. He’s been complaining at rallies that he’s tired. Remember when those types of issues made people concerned about Biden’s presidency? But let’s embrace Trump’s decline!

It's baffling. He's does what he does best, cons people. Lots believe the election was stolen in 2020. A wealthy guy (largely inherited from daddy) from New York has duped the working class Joe from Ohio that he cares about their struggles. Hilarious.

It's only baffling to out of touch morons like you. Thinking like this is why she lost so bad, keep it up, it's nice watching you whiny little babies self-destruct.

What exactly did Trump do for the middle class during his last term? He inherited the stable economy from Obama. He locked migrant kids in cages, but I don't think that made life for the middle class easier. He mishandled the pandemic by not taking action soon enough and arguing with health officials. He gave out unemployment and stimulus checks, but they obviously contributed to the state the economy is currently in, aka "Biden's" inflation. You keep calling Dems out of touch but the Republicans are merely pretending to be in touch. High tariffs on foreign goods will not lower housing and grocery prices. You do know the VP elect insulted the working class in his book right? Trump doesn't care about you. He cares about his fragile ego and probably wants to be able to pardon himself.

--Kids in cages? Obama did it first, but the media/leftists didn't care until big bad orange man did it.
--Pandemic: Trump immediately tried to close the borders to China, from whence the virus originated, and was called a racist xenophobic blah blah blah. Democratic leaders in NY and San Francisco went out of their way to encourage people to congregate and attend Chinese events as a middle finger to the big bad orange man. I clearly remember this - do you? Were you even aware? Trump, as you well know, pushed Operation Warp Speed to develop the covid vaccine. The rest? It was literally an unprecedented situation and therefore it's impossible to (accurately) say a Democratic president would've handled it better.
--Stimmies: Yes, the Trump checks contributed to inflation. But the "Inflation Reduction Act" (ha - even Biden admitted it wasn't really about reducing inflation) and American Rescue Plan Act were hugely inflationary. Further, the Biden admin insisted that inflation was transitory when it decidedly was not. It then trumpeted the decreasing RATE of inflation without acknowledging that prices were (and are) still inflated.
--Tariffs: Admittedly, I am concerned about the near-term effects of tariffs on the working class's wallets. However, the reasoning behind them is SO important: Trump wants to encourage, whether with a carrot or with a stick, companies to manufacture in America again. Reshore jobs! Buy American! I fully support this ambition. I sincerely hope for progress on this front.
--I read Hillbilly Elegy. Did you? I am from a working class family and grew up in a working class area. I didn't find Hillbilly Elegy to be insulting to the working class. I found it to be largely accurate of my own experience. Just because certain parts of it may be unflattering, doesn't mean it's insulting. This is a big issue with the left of calling facts they don't like "racist" or "hate speech". The truth isn't always pretty.

OP of the post you responded to. Cant blame this one on Dems. Trump definitely mismanaged the pandemic. If he handled it well, he'd have been reelected. He ignored advice from officials and shown disdain for things like masking. No proof that these gatherings you mentioned spearheaded anything.

Ok, but Fox News refers to this as Biden’s inflation and his alone.

Someone said his merchandise is made in China already, and I think consumers say they will pay more for American made goods, but in reality... If rising prices are a concern, increasing tariffs on foreign goods seems counterproductive.

No, and don't plan to. Eh, maybe for shits and giggles. Fair, but I feel that leeway has been given because if a Dem wrote this you would see it as condescending.

PP responding. We'll have to agree to disagree on the pandemic front. I do agree that Trump's merch should be manufactured in the US since that's part of his platform. FWIW, when I read Hillbilly Elegy back when it came out in 2016, I had no idea of Vance's politics. I really felt he could've gone either way; I actually thought he was probably left-leaning since I'm pretty sure his grandparents were Democrats. And I still didn't find it condescending.

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Anonymous wrote:White male, I voted for her even though I lean conservative. I honestly thought she was a shoo-in. I really thought enough of this country was tired of Trump...maybe not the policies he stands for, but the man himself, that they'd just say no. I was wrong.

I think what shocked me most was Latino men voting for him as much as they did, given his anti-immigrant rhetoric.

Maybe because they are not a monolith and don’t associate themselves with illegals.

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The Trump administration is pro-legal immigration. They are against ILLEGAL immigration. Democrats love to conflate the two. Those who waited years to come here legally aren't about to support the millions who think they can just jump the line.

You here this a lot, even in academic "liberal" circles where folks busted their asses.

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I felt Hillary 2.0 vibes for much of the campaign. But then in the last weekend I bought into the narrative that she had a last minute momentum. It was a mirage.

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Anonymous wrote:I knew she was gonna lose because she is the worst candidate I’ve ever seen in my life.

It’s not racism or misogyny. Yes there are people who would not vote for a woman of color, but there are way way more people who would vote for her because she’s a woman of color.

Imagine she’s as good as Obama, she would definitely have another Obama landslide, or at least won.

This is a very sexist response. I thought she was an excellent candidate. Obama got a pass on a lot of things because he was a man. To paraphrase Van Jones, "The male candidate can be flawed, but the female candidate has to be flawless."

And yes, I did think she would win. Cheeto's attempt to overturn the government disqualifies him from office. To quote Michelle Obama, "How is this even close?"

I admit I’m 100% sexist, but in the other way. I want a woman president so badly but she is literally a moron who is afraid of Joe Rogan. How can she face other world leaders? Trump and Vance are not afraid of unfriendly news outlets, she can’t even handle a cnn townhall.

It’s just pathetic.

She went on Stern and he asked her why she loves Doritos and Raisin Bran

Trump talked about another man's p^nis size.....and cancelled interviews he knew he couldn't handle. I'm so tired of people hiding behind stupid excuses just admit you'd prefer a racist felon. Own it.

I don’t prefer a racist felon but I prefer the racist felon’s policy more than I prefer Kamala’s policy