Everyone, please comment on Bezos' piece in WaPo!

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Anonymous wrote:Man I'm a liberal and think this is nonsense. This is why we are a country dumb as rocks and so divided. This is why the the Left has critics.

To cancel your newspaper subscription because it didn't endorse the candidate you wanted them to. Good god, really? You'll cost someone their job, the decisions been made, you're not punishing Bezos by this, you're putting an end to the Post. This is just nonsense.

So cut off your nose to spite your face.

This is why it's such a close election. I'm pro choice anti MAGA and a female DEI and have no problem with Bezos' decision. I know who I am and what I believe in and I don't vote or get swayed by any paper who would endorse any candidate. This is what people mean by being waaaaay out of control to the Left.

Be sensible, logical and a bit less emotional but practical. Worry about yourself and look at the impact not what you deem to be right or wrong in the heat of the moment. This is punishing journalists on YOUR side. The Post is a hugely liberal left leaning paper. If you are a Dem why would you want it to go out?!

Bezos owns it but that's it. This is a big decision but he's not printing pro Maga stuff every day so get off your high horse and be sensible. It's a business decision at worse and a philosophical one at best, and if you can't understand that, you are a fool.

I don't know if you understand this story. The editorial board did want to endorse Harris and they wrote an endorsement but the owner refused to let them publish it. People don't subscribe to the post because they want to know bezos's opinions. They subscribe to the post because they respect the reporting and the editorial board that he has in place. If they're not going to get that, why should they read the paper?

And you don't need to agree with reporting to respect it by the way. You could read a quality conservative publication like the economist or something and respect the reporting without necessarily agreeing with all of it.

Economiat is market capitalist not conservative.

Look the point is that people subscribe to a publication because they respect the people that are providing the content. When that doesn't exist anymore, it's likely not the publication for them anymore. I don't think this is difficult to understand.

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If Bezos is willing to insert himself into the editorial board's decisions about endorsements, why wouldn't he kill other stories or endorsements that might displease Trump? This could be just the tip of the iceberg. That's why we canceled our subscription. As a nation, we need to examine the power of our new oligarchs in every political sphere, including the Fourth Estate.

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Anonymous wrote:If Bezos is willing to insert himself into the editorial board's decisions about endorsements, why wouldn't he kill other stories or endorsements that might displease Trump? This could be just the tip of the iceberg. That's why we canceled our subscription. As a nation, we need to examine the power of our new oligarchs in every political sphere, including the Fourth Estate.

Agree, I don't have the time or energy to sort out which stories Bezos is killing and which ones he's not. The fact is when, it suits him he's killing stuff, that the people he hired wanted to put in the paper. I am interested in what the people he hired have to say, not bezos.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean you're not punishing him by unsubscribing you know that right, folks?

You got nothing v someone like him. He's got a F50 B2C, AWS B2B govt all wrapped up and the newspaper and grocery businesses. You really think he cares what we all think???!?

But I agree with his pragmatic approach. The difference between everyone and someone like him is that he uses his brain not heart to drive decisions. He's not always right but on this, it's logical, reasonable and from a business perspective to top it off, sensible. Not knowing the outcome of the election, staying neutral is what any sane business person would do. All of you complainers have no idea how to run a business.

If your newspaper business's top priority is sucking up to the President, and you don't have a newspaper business.

"Democracy Dies in Darkness"

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Anonymous wrote:I mean you're not punishing him by unsubscribing you know that right, folks?

You got nothing v someone like him. He's got a F50 B2C, AWS B2B govt all wrapped up and the newspaper and grocery businesses. You really think he cares what we all think???!?

But I agree with his pragmatic approach. The difference between everyone and someone like him is that he uses his brain not heart to drive decisions. He's not always right but on this, it's logical, reasonable and from a business perspective to top it off, sensible. Not knowing the outcome of the election, staying neutral is what any sane business person would do. All of you complainers have no idea how to run a business.

If your newspaper business's top priority is sucking up to the President, and you don't have a newspaper business.

"Democracy Dies in Darkness"

The non-endorsement isn't about the Post. It's about protecting Blue Origin.
The Post is compromised by Bezos's other commercial interests.

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Anonymous wrote:Man I'm a liberal and think this is nonsense. This is why we are a country dumb as rocks and so divided. This is why the the Left has critics.

To cancel your newspaper subscription because it didn't endorse the candidate you wanted them to. Good god, really? You'll cost someone their job, the decisions been made, you're not punishing Bezos by this, you're putting an end to the Post. This is just nonsense.

So cut off your nose to spite your face.

This is why it's such a close election. I'm pro choice anti MAGA and a female DEI and have no problem with Bezos' decision. I know who I am and what I believe in and I don't vote or get swayed by any paper who would endorse any candidate. This is what people mean by being waaaaay out of control to the Left.

Be sensible, logical and a bit less emotional but practical. Worry about yourself and look at the impact not what you deem to be right or wrong in the heat of the moment. This is punishing journalists on YOUR side. The Post is a hugely liberal left leaning paper. If you are a Dem why would you want it to go out?!

Bezos owns it but that's it. This is a big decision but he's not printing pro Maga stuff every day so get off your high horse and be sensible. It's a business decision at worse and a philosophical one at best, and if you can't understand that, you are a fool.

You completely miss the reason why people are canceling. It’s not because the WaPo didn’t endorse Harris. It’s because the billionaire owner showed he’s willing to bias the papers editorial judgment to please Trump. That leads to a loss of trust in the paper.

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How can any business that relies on subscription not know how many they have now vs a week ago?

???

Why would any Wapo exec reveal that to the public? How would random partisan reporters learn of the number? You guys are naive as hell. The 200k is obvious bullcrap.

Nope, WaPo has confirmed it and now it’s up to 250k.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/media/2024/10/29/washington-post-cancellations-number/

And you know what the result will be from all the LWNJs cancelling their subscriptions? WaPo will likely have to terminate many of their journalists and other employees that keep the paper up and running.

https://slate.com/business/2024/10/washington-post-endorsement-election-cancel-jeff-bezos.html

When you cancel your subscription to the Post, you don’t punish Jeff Bezos. You punish the journalists who write such stories, including, ironically, the journalists who wrote and prepared to publish the very endorsement you’re so angry about. As one Post staffer told me, “The journalists who produce the Washington Post had no role in this decision, and yet they’re the only people who will be really hurt if you cancel your subscription.”

And if those journalists lose their jobs, what happens to them? The most clueless subscription-cancelers of all maintain that they’ll just get jobs elsewhere. Apparently there are still people out there who don’t know that the business model for journalism is currently in free fall, with only brand-name legacy organizations, like the Post and the New York Times, able to hold on by their fingernails while still providing in-depth reporting. Last year alone, 131 local newspapers shuttered, a loss that has fostered the increasing polarization of their communities. Even if you don’t feel sorry for middle-class people losing their jobs, this is a massive civic injury. Contributing to the death of journalism will not hurt Jeff Bezos; it will just make the United States a dumber, more dangerous place.

Yes, Post cancellers should subscribe to other outlets like NYT, Vox, and ProPublica.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
How can any business that relies on subscription not know how many they have now vs a week ago?

???

Why would any Wapo exec reveal that to the public? How would random partisan reporters learn of the number? You guys are naive as hell. The 200k is obvious bullcrap.

Nope, WaPo has confirmed it and now it’s up to 250k.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/media/2024/10/29/washington-post-cancellations-number/

And you know what the result will be from all the LWNJs cancelling their subscriptions?

Independent journalism not filtered through a $100Billionaire's personal profit motive is LWNJ. Got it.

[Anonymous]

I think the tantrums are funny. There is more of an issue of regular folk not subscribing and yes the circulation numbers before this were down. Newspapers and all of them should not be weighing in on elections. Bezos recognizes that people are losing faith in media. That is not good for democracy. Have opinions writers and have both or all sides if third parities and also report news and do not act as surrogates
for one or other party.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Man I'm a liberal and think this is nonsense. This is why we are a country dumb as rocks and so divided. This is why the the Left has critics.

To cancel your newspaper subscription because it didn't endorse the candidate you wanted them to. Good god, really? You'll cost someone their job, the decisions been made, you're not punishing Bezos by this, you're putting an end to the Post. This is just nonsense.

So cut off your nose to spite your face.

This is why it's such a close election. I'm pro choice anti MAGA and a female DEI and have no problem with Bezos' decision. I know who I am and what I believe in and I don't vote or get swayed by any paper who would endorse any candidate. This is what people mean by being waaaaay out of control to the Left.

Be sensible, logical and a bit less emotional but practical. Worry about yourself and look at the impact not what you deem to be right or wrong in the heat of the moment. This is punishing journalists on YOUR side. The Post is a hugely liberal left leaning paper. If you are a Dem why would you want it to go out?!

Bezos owns it but that's it. This is a big decision but he's not printing pro Maga stuff every day so get off your high horse and be sensible. It's a business decision at worse and a philosophical one at best, and if you can't understand that, you are a fool.

You completely miss the reason why people are canceling. It’s not because the WaPo didn’t endorse Harris. It’s because the billionaire owner showed he’s willing to bias the papers editorial judgment to please Trump. That leads to a loss of trust in the paper.

oh the anger. What about all the papers refusing to write on Hunter Biden Laptop and calling it disinformation last time. It was a huge issue. Trying to keep things even and focused on news and not advocacy should be a priority

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man I'm a liberal and think this is nonsense. This is why we are a country dumb as rocks and so divided. This is why the the Left has critics.

To cancel your newspaper subscription because it didn't endorse the candidate you wanted them to. Good god, really? You'll cost someone their job, the decisions been made, you're not punishing Bezos by this, you're putting an end to the Post. This is just nonsense.

So cut off your nose to spite your face.

This is why it's such a close election. I'm pro choice anti MAGA and a female DEI and have no problem with Bezos' decision. I know who I am and what I believe in and I don't vote or get swayed by any paper who would endorse any candidate. This is what people mean by being waaaaay out of control to the Left.

Be sensible, logical and a bit less emotional but practical. Worry about yourself and look at the impact not what you deem to be right or wrong in the heat of the moment. This is punishing journalists on YOUR side. The Post is a hugely liberal left leaning paper. If you are a Dem why would you want it to go out?!

Bezos owns it but that's it. This is a big decision but he's not printing pro Maga stuff every day so get off your high horse and be sensible. It's a business decision at worse and a philosophical one at best, and if you can't understand that, you are a fool.

I don't know if you understand this story. The editorial board did want to endorse Harris and they wrote an endorsement but the owner refused to let them publish it. People don't subscribe to the post because they want to know bezos's opinions. They subscribe to the post because they respect the reporting and the editorial board that he has in place. If they're not going to get that, why should they read the paper?

All you lefties sound like a 5 year old having a temper tantrum. The Post endorsing a candidate or not endorsing a candidate has no effect on an election. Journalists, who are supposed to be objective and not be part of the story should keep their politics to themselves if they want to be thought of as such. But we all know the Post’s reporting is extraordinarily biased in favor of Dems which is why the employees and subscribers are losing their minds over this meaningless gesture bc they fear the Post might actually try to be objective.

The endorsement is done by the editorial board and appears on the opinion pages. It's like you've never actually read a newspaper, but you seem to have a lot of opinions about them.

Right but the babies screaming about this are the reporters/journalists/columnists. It’s like you think they are objective journalists.

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WaPo is such a rag. Wasn’t it Jennifer Rubin who shamed the employees of the LA Times for not quitting after it’s owner refused to endorse Harris? What a useless hypocrite. But I do love watching the Left eat their own.

[Anonymous]

WaPo is going to lose so much money their heads will be spinning after this!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
How can any business that relies on subscription not know how many they have now vs a week ago?

???

Why would any Wapo exec reveal that to the public? How would random partisan reporters learn of the number? You guys are naive as hell. The 200k is obvious bullcrap.

Yes, because it's confirmed at 250k who have canceled.

Fake news.

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Fat lot of good Bezos' kissing up did: Trump just filed a complaint with the FEC that The Post made "illegal contributions" to the Harris campaign.

Frog, scorpion, etc.