Reminder to avoid offensive Halloween costumes

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Anonymous wrote:Hello, Halloween costume troll! How was your year?

I am not a troll. This is a serious issue.

You think trolls don't post about serious issues just to rile people up? Can we have a little perspective about what constitutes a serious issue? My three year old dressing up like her hero Pocahontas...it's not that. The VA state legislature trying to police history and what our kids learn? That. That's serious. When you make everything serious nothing is serious.

Years ago I posted asking if my daughter could dress up as Pocahontas and was annihilated on here.

I’m ordinarily pretty lax about this stuff but the Pocahontas stuff sort of creeps me out because she’s an actual person that has been totally co-opted in a way that is kind of weird and uncomfortable for me. I wouldn’t judge you for letting your kid dress as Pocahontas, but I think i noxed it for my own kid because it just makes me thiink of a young girl who was kidnapped as a teen, married an older man under circumstances that probably weren’t totally voluntary, and died of some awful disease when she was only 20, far fell her home and family. And everyone treats her as a happy cartoon. It’s just icky to me. It’s my least favorite disney movie.

This is a different concern. Dressing as Pocahontas is not racist. You are uncomfortable with it because her story is sad, and I think some tribal leaders have expressed that the white mythology around her is so insensitive that dressing like her is hard to do respectfully. But it's different from putting on a wig with feathers and saying you're an Indian.

It would absolutely be racist to dress your child as Pocahontas if she is white.

Oh, there you are! Hi from a few years ago. So glad you're back.

So can my White kid dress like Moana because she's fake? Or can my White kid only dress like other white people/characters?

Can Black kids not dress like Cinderella because she's white? Or is that ok because she's fake? Can they dress like RBG?

Cinderella doesn’t have to be white.

Cinderella, the character, is white. A princess can be any color, obviously. Cinderella herself is white.

Otherwise I could say that Jasmine doesn't have to be Indian. Moana doesn't have to be Polynesian.

Jasmine isn’t Indian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the ethnicities mentioned here that dressing up as would be offensive.

First, it's actually really offensive for white people to deem what's offensive on behalf of another culture/race.

Second, it's always seemed like the general rule is that if you're going to dress as a certain cultural figure or similar, keep it authentic. It becomes offensive when it becomes a stereotype or charicatrue of that ethnicity or culture

You mean, like drag.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's weird when adults get so into dressing up for Halloween. I get why kids like dressing up for Halloween. It's a fantasy for them and a way to try on different personas and lives. It's just a more formalized excused to play make believe which is something kids do all the time. Also candy.

As an adult I don't get what the goal is. It's not actually make believe. When people wear costumes they are not actually pretending to be these people. It's more like the goal is to prove to other adults how clever you are or how much time or money you have to devote to putting together a really good costume. It seems pointless to me. I've been to many adult Halloween parties and the costumes are basically just something you discuss for a minute and then it winds up being like any other gathering of adults. You're still just standing around drinking beer and discussing work and kids and travel. It's just that your neighbor is wearing a banana costume and when her husband comes to tell her that the sitter called and they need to go he has to take off his Kruger hand in order to get his phone out of his pocket.

I don't know. It feels like the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

My take on your opinion is I think you sound like a fuddy duddy and boring person. And then you went there with this expression and then I *KNEW* you were a fuddy duddy and boring person. With a really peculiar thought process in which you assign malice and bad intent to other people's actions randomly.

Enjoy being dull and conventional. The rest of us will be over here, having fun and enjoying life.

+1

And coming up with clever costumes

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Anonymous wrote:Well that doesn't leave anything fun. Not even the sexy corn cob would make the cut.

There's nothwrong with dressing up as a corn cob.

Look, going as President Taft is fine and going as "a fat person" is not. Going as Moana is fine, going as "a Polynesian" is not. This isn't hard.

Has anyone ever dressed as a Polynesian? Isn't it always Moana, which some people find offensive.

I actually agree with your sentiment, OP, but no one has ever been convinced by an anonymous internet scolding.

I mean, yes... People wear hula skirts as costumes all the time...

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's weird when adults get so into dressing up for Halloween. I get why kids like dressing up for Halloween. It's a fantasy for them and a way to try on different personas and lives. It's just a more formalized excused to play make believe which is something kids do all the time. Also candy.

As an adult I don't get what the goal is. It's not actually make believe. When people wear costumes they are not actually pretending to be these people. It's more like the goal is to prove to other adults how clever you are or how much time or money you have to devote to putting together a really good costume. It seems pointless to me. I've been to many adult Halloween parties and the costumes are basically just something you discuss for a minute and then it winds up being like any other gathering of adults. You're still just standing around drinking beer and discussing work and kids and travel. It's just that your neighbor is wearing a banana costume and when her husband comes to tell her that the sitter called and they need to go he has to take off his Kruger hand in order to get his phone out of his pocket.

I don't know. It feels like the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

My take on your opinion is I think you sound like a fuddy duddy and boring person. And then you went there with this expression and then I *KNEW* you were a fuddy duddy and boring person. With a really peculiar thought process in which you assign malice and bad intent to other people's actions randomly.

Enjoy being dull and conventional. The rest of us will be over here, having fun and enjoying life.

People who use the phrase "fuddy duddy" should throw stones.

More cliches. So typical.

Bored now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hello, Halloween costume troll! How was your year?

I am not a troll. This is a serious issue.

You think trolls don't post about serious issues just to rile people up? Can we have a little perspective about what constitutes a serious issue? My three year old dressing up like her hero Pocahontas...it's not that. The VA state legislature trying to police history and what our kids learn? That. That's serious. When you make everything serious nothing is serious.

Years ago I posted asking if my daughter could dress up as Pocahontas and was annihilated on here.

I’m ordinarily pretty lax about this stuff but the Pocahontas stuff sort of creeps me out because she’s an actual person that has been totally co-opted in a way that is kind of weird and uncomfortable for me. I wouldn’t judge you for letting your kid dress as Pocahontas, but I think i noxed it for my own kid because it just makes me thiink of a young girl who was kidnapped as a teen, married an older man under circumstances that probably weren’t totally voluntary, and died of some awful disease when she was only 20, far fell her home and family. And everyone treats her as a happy cartoon. It’s just icky to me. It’s my least favorite disney movie.

This is a different concern. Dressing as Pocahontas is not racist. You are uncomfortable with it because her story is sad, and I think some tribal leaders have expressed that the white mythology around her is so insensitive that dressing like her is hard to do respectfully. But it's different from putting on a wig with feathers and saying you're an Indian.

It would absolutely be racist to dress your child as Pocahontas if she is white.

Oh, there you are! Hi from a few years ago. So glad you're back.

So can my White kid dress like Moana because she's fake? Or can my White kid only dress like other white people/characters?

Can Black kids not dress like Cinderella because she's white? Or is that ok because she's fake? Can they dress like RBG?

Cinderella doesn’t have to be white.

Cinderella, the character, is white. A princess can be any color, obviously. Cinderella herself is white.

Otherwise I could say that Jasmine doesn't have to be Indian. Moana doesn't have to be Polynesian.

Kids, you are talking about little kids. Little girls who dress up for Halloween and actually believe that they are indeed little Moanas, Jasmines etc., as for Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty and Snow White those little strumpets are DOA.

Little girls don’t want to be just pretty things anymore waiting around for some guy to kiss them and save them… girl power!

Any girl and or boy no matter what he/she looks like can be any Disney princess. And yes this goes for the little chubsters too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the ethnicities mentioned here that dressing up as would be offensive.

First, it's actually really offensive for white people to deem what's offensive on behalf of another culture/race.

Second, it's always seemed like the general rule is that if you're going to dress as a certain cultural figure or similar, keep it authentic. It becomes offensive when it becomes a stereotype or charicatrue of that ethnicity or culture

You mean, like drag.

No. Drag is really it's own thing.

[Anonymous]

Last year I went as six-shooter Alec Baldwin. My plan for this year was Biden in a diaper, but that has been overtaken by events. Any suggestions? Something with Diddy baby oil maybe?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fall can be such a fun season, but it is important to remember: we are all in this together.

As you select costumes for yourself and your child, please avoid costumes which are culturally insensitive, as well as costumes that are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, sizeist, or ageist.

So going as the neighborhood pedophile is okay?

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Anonymous wrote:Last year I went as six-shooter Alec Baldwin. My plan for this year was Biden in a diaper, but that has been overtaken by events. Any suggestions? Something with Diddy baby oil maybe?

Wow you're so hilarious.

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Anonymous wrote:Last year I went as six-shooter Alec Baldwin. My plan for this year was Biden in a diaper, but that has been overtaken by events. Any suggestions? Something with Diddy baby oil maybe?

Trump in a diaper actively shitting himself while he runs away from debating Harris?

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Anonymous wrote:Last year I went as six-shooter Alec Baldwin. My plan for this year was Biden in a diaper, but that has been overtaken by events. Any suggestions? Something with Diddy baby oil maybe?

Trump in a diaper actively shitting himself while he runs away from debating Harris?

That’s a good idea. My gf will chase me as Harris wearing a pair of knee pads.

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Anonymous wrote:Last year I went as six-shooter Alec Baldwin. My plan for this year was Biden in a diaper, but that has been overtaken by events. Any suggestions? Something with Diddy baby oil maybe?

Trump in a diaper actively shitting himself while he runs away from debating Harris?

That’s a good idea. My gf will chase me as Harris wearing a pair of knee pads.

We both know you don’t have a gf lol

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I’m just going to be a slutty French maid

Boring but gets the job done

[Anonymous]

Not sure what a costume of a safe space would look like, so I will just go as a trigger.