Is the future of higher ed in the South?

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Anonymous wrote:Nah, not while those states continue to rank near the bottom of K-12 education. Most of the SEC schools saw significant increases in apps, but most of the kids we know headed south (besides UGA or FL which were 1st choice for a few friends) didn't get into T30 schools or W&M, VT, UVA or MD, and didn't want JMU, VCU or Mason. Our neighbor's DD graduated from Ole Miss and my DD teacher's son graduated from AL. Both want to return to the DMV, but are having trouble finding jobs. The AL kid is now looking for jobs in Atlanta & Charlotte while Ole Miss girl is still hoping to find something in this area.

You don't get it. People are realizing T30 doesn't matter, and they can have a great time with fun, beautiful peers, not dealing with people like you that are negative.

Graduated from University of TN. The DC area Big Four recruited heavily at UT. I interned in DC, went back to UT for masters and then accepted a job in DC. Worked for 3 of the big four firms for a few yrs and then started own consulting business in DC area. Lots of opportunities here.

Because it's the dream of every high school student to work at a Big Four accounting firm. Quite the glamour career.

Well I loved it and am financially set and can retire early anytime (have to get rid of clients first 😀) but I enjoy running my own business. To each their own! And yes it was my dream and I achieved it😀. Everyone has different dreams.

Did you know that you wanted to go into accounting before you went to college? I think it would be a great career for my DC, but they have had no exposure to it.

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Anonymous wrote:The South is now the destination of choice for many college bound kids. Will this trend continue?

https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

Lol, no. Only uneducated fools go south. This board seems to have been infiltrated by Russian trolls/MAGA supporters recently.

I think you are jealous because southerners are better looking.

I think it’s very strange that so many people are saying southerners are better looking…I’m from The south and…no. These posters must just be thinking of Bama sorority girl types. That is NOT the majority of southerners. That is a small subset of UMC kids from the south. If you look at the majority of southerners, most are just average looking just like anywhere else in the country. Except there are higher rates of obesity in the south, which isn’t exactly boosting the overall attractiveness.

Southerners are much taller than other areas of the country. When moving to DC I had never seen so many short people in my life. Was very odd and still not use to it after 20 yrs.

This is not true. https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/average-height-by-state.

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Anonymous wrote:The South is now the destination of choice for many college bound kids. Will this trend continue?

https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

Lol, no. Only uneducated fools go south. This board seems to have been infiltrated by Russian trolls/MAGA supporters recently.

I think you are jealous because southerners are better looking.

I think it’s very strange that so many people are saying southerners are better looking…I’m from The south and…no. These posters must just be thinking of Bama sorority girl types. That is NOT the majority of southerners. That is a small subset of UMC kids from the south. If you look at the majority of southerners, most are just average looking just like anywhere else in the country. Except there are higher rates of obesity in the south, which isn’t exactly boosting the overall attractiveness.

Southerners are much taller than other areas of the country. When moving to DC I had never seen so many short people in my life. Was very odd and still not use to it after 20 yrs.

Look up some statistics. This is inaccurate.

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Anonymous wrote:The South is now the destination of choice for many college bound kids. Will this trend continue?

https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

Lol, no. Only uneducated fools go south. This board seems to have been infiltrated by Russian trolls/MAGA supporters recently.

I think you are jealous because southerners are better looking.

I think it’s very strange that so many people are saying southerners are better looking…I’m from The south and…no. These posters must just be thinking of Bama sorority girl types. That is NOT the majority of southerners. That is a small subset of UMC kids from the south. If you look at the majority of southerners, most are just average looking just like anywhere else in the country. Except there are higher rates of obesity in the south, which isn’t exactly boosting the overall attractiveness.

Southerners are much taller than other areas of the country. When moving to DC I had never seen so many short people in my life. Was very odd and still not use to it after 20 yrs.

DC is shorter...but Southerners aren't taller. According to a WaPo article from 2018 the tallest men live in Alabama, Iowa, Utah, Oregon, Washington, South Dakota, Nebraska and Alaska (no southern states make the list for tallest women). Hawaii has the shortest men and women.

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Anonymous wrote:Nah, not while those states continue to rank near the bottom of K-12 education. Most of the SEC schools saw significant increases in apps, but most of the kids we know headed south (besides UGA or FL which were 1st choice for a few friends) didn't get into T30 schools or W&M, VT, UVA or MD, and didn't want JMU, VCU or Mason. Our neighbor's DD graduated from Ole Miss and my DD teacher's son graduated from AL. Both want to return to the DMV, but are having trouble finding jobs. The AL kid is now looking for jobs in Atlanta & Charlotte while Ole Miss girl is still hoping to find something in this area.

You don't get it. People are realizing T30 doesn't matter, and they can have a great time with fun, beautiful peers, not dealing with people like you that are negative.

Graduated from University of TN. The DC area Big Four recruited heavily at UT. I interned in DC, went back to UT for masters and then accepted a job in DC. Worked for 3 of the big four firms for a few yrs and then started own consulting business in DC area. Lots of opportunities here.

Because it's the dream of every high school student to work at a Big Four accounting firm. Quite the glamour career.

Well I loved it and am financially set and can retire early anytime (have to get rid of clients first 😀) but I enjoy running my own business. To each their own! And yes it was my dream and I achieved it😀. Everyone has different dreams.

Did you know that you wanted to go into accounting before you went to college? I think it would be a great career for my DC, but they have had no exposure to it.

I have a kid who is an accountant. Yes, it’s tough to know if it’s the right fit for a kid. My advice is to have kid take an intro accounting class at a community college while still in high school. That should be enough to know if it’s a good fit.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of the state of reproductive healthcare in the South, and I can see it having real-life impacts on girls and boys attending colleges there.

I take your point, but also if you want the politics to change, having liberals move there is a good start. Some states, Mississippi, for example, are probably so deep red it won’t happen, but Tennessee, for example, has both Nashville and Memphis and two other large university towns in Knoxville (u of Tennessee) and Murfreesboro (Middle TN State, which is the second largest college in the state with probably 30,000 students). Those places are fairly progressive and are barely outnumbered by the more rural places in the rest of the state. The state as a whole is not nearly as red as its legislative assembly would suggest. Sure, the Smokeys might be deep red, but mountains and moonshine distilleries don’t vote.

It’s not that everyone is so conservative across the south. There are a lot of majority black cities in the south (Memphis, Birmingham, Jackson, MS, Montgomery, Shreveport, New Orleans, Baton Rouge…all have a majority black population and politics that reflect that demographic) and those places solidly vote democratic.

100% of which are crime-ridden $h!+holes.

Wow. You sound racist.

But not wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of the state of reproductive healthcare in the South, and I can see it having real-life impacts on girls and boys attending colleges there.

I take your point, but also if you want the politics to change, having liberals move there is a good start. Some states, Mississippi, for example, are probably so deep red it won’t happen, but Tennessee, for example, has both Nashville and Memphis and two other large university towns in Knoxville (u of Tennessee) and Murfreesboro (Middle TN State, which is the second largest college in the state with probably 30,000 students). Those places are fairly progressive and are barely outnumbered by the more rural places in the rest of the state. The state as a whole is not nearly as red as its legislative assembly would suggest. Sure, the Smokeys might be deep red, but mountains and moonshine distilleries don’t vote.

It’s not that everyone is so conservative across the south. There are a lot of majority black cities in the south (Memphis, Birmingham, Jackson, MS, Montgomery, Shreveport, New Orleans, Baton Rouge…all have a majority black population and politics that reflect that demographic) and those places solidly vote democratic.

100% of which are crime-ridden $h!+holes.

Wow. You sound racist.

But not wrong.

It is wrong to be racist.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, the South is the future of higher education in the US. Lot of great schools, that offer a better value for the education dollar.

I think it's bananas to send your kids to an out of state public university (and pay OOS tuition) to a school that is just ok. The honest answer here is to send your kids to an in-state public school in your jurisdiction. THAT is the future of higher ed....if we're smart.

Those schools are cheaper now and in a few years will be considered TOP.

Which schools do you think will be considered "TOP"?

We have a thread for this: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1200283.page

Yes, but I can't think of one "cheaper" SEC school that will be considered TOP in a few years. Not one. I don't think Georgia or Florida will ever be at the level of UNC or UVA, much less at the level of Ivies and the like.

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Georgia and Florida are great schools and both are enjoying a surge in popularity. Both are great, affordable options for in state students which has elevated their rankings, helping push application #s up out of state. However, these schools will never be in the same category of UNC or UVA.

Why wouldn’t they be?

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Anonymous wrote:You know they are B-/B kids who don’t want to go to GMU or Towson. It’s good for them to venture out.

I always thought they are more of C+/B- kids, who are good kids but didn’t try hard at schools. Southern schools are providing them a second chance to get things sorted out.

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Anonymous wrote:You know they are B-/B kids who don’t want to go to GMU or Towson. It’s good for them to venture out.

I always thought they are more of C+/B- kids, who are good kids but didn’t try hard at schools. Southern schools are providing them a second chance to get things sorted out.

The kids I know who went to UGA are A students.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, the South is the future of higher education in the US. Lot of great schools, that offer a better value for the education dollar.

I think it's bananas to send your kids to an out of state public university (and pay OOS tuition) to a school that is just ok. The honest answer here is to send your kids to an in-state public school in your jurisdiction. THAT is the future of higher ed....if we're smart.

Those schools are cheaper now and in a few years will be considered TOP.

Which schools do you think will be considered "TOP"?

We have a thread for this: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1200283.page

Yes, but I can't think of one "cheaper" SEC school that will be considered TOP in a few years. Not one. I don't think Georgia or Florida will ever be at the level of UNC or UVA, much less at the level of Ivies and the like.

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Georgia and Florida are great schools and both are enjoying a surge in popularity. Both are great, affordable options for in state students which has elevated their rankings, helping push application #s up out of state. However, these schools will never be in the same category of UNC or UVA.

Why wouldn’t they be?

Years/decades of established reputation. UNC and UVA have been well regarded/highly ranked since we were all looking at colleges 20 years ago. Every few years new schools become hot - currently it's Southern schools like Georgia and Florida. You can probably name programs that UNC and UVA are known for, not just regionally, but nationally. Can you say the same for Georgia and Florida?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, the South is the future of higher education in the US. Lot of great schools, that offer a better value for the education dollar.

I think it's bananas to send your kids to an out of state public university (and pay OOS tuition) to a school that is just ok. The honest answer here is to send your kids to an in-state public school in your jurisdiction. THAT is the future of higher ed....if we're smart.

Those schools are cheaper now and in a few years will be considered TOP.

Which schools do you think will be considered "TOP"?

We have a thread for this: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1200283.page

Yes, but I can't think of one "cheaper" SEC school that will be considered TOP in a few years. Not one. I don't think Georgia or Florida will ever be at the level of UNC or UVA, much less at the level of Ivies and the like.

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Georgia and Florida are great schools and both are enjoying a surge in popularity. Both are great, affordable options for in state students which has elevated their rankings, helping push application #s up out of state. However, these schools will never be in the same category of UNC or UVA.

Why wouldn’t they be?

Years/decades of established reputation. UNC and UVA have been well regarded/highly ranked since we were all looking at colleges 20 years ago. Every few years new schools become hot - currently it's Southern schools like Georgia and Florida. You can probably name programs that UNC and UVA are known for, not just regionally, but nationally. Can you say the same for Georgia and Florida?

Which schools were hot a few years ago and aren’t anymore? I don’t really think schools move in and out of the rankings quickly like you seem to think they do. I think once a school moves up it tends to stay up for awhile. I predict UF and UGA will stay higher in the rankings for a long time.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, the South is the future of higher education in the US. Lot of great schools, that offer a better value for the education dollar.

I think it's bananas to send your kids to an out of state public university (and pay OOS tuition) to a school that is just ok. The honest answer here is to send your kids to an in-state public school in your jurisdiction. THAT is the future of higher ed....if we're smart.

Those schools are cheaper now and in a few years will be considered TOP.

Which schools do you think will be considered "TOP"?

We have a thread for this: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1200283.page

Yes, but I can't think of one "cheaper" SEC school that will be considered TOP in a few years. Not one. I don't think Georgia or Florida will ever be at the level of UNC or UVA, much less at the level of Ivies and the like.

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Georgia and Florida are great schools and both are enjoying a surge in popularity. Both are great, affordable options for in state students which has elevated their rankings, helping push application #s up out of state. However, these schools will never be in the same category of UNC or UVA.

Why wouldn’t they be?

Years/decades of established reputation. UNC and UVA have been well regarded/highly ranked since we were all looking at colleges 20 years ago. Every few years new schools become hot - currently it's Southern schools like Georgia and Florida. You can probably name programs that UNC and UVA are known for, not just regionally, but nationally. Can you say the same for Georgia and Florida?

What are UNC and UVA known for?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, the South is the future of higher education in the US. Lot of great schools, that offer a better value for the education dollar.

I think it's bananas to send your kids to an out of state public university (and pay OOS tuition) to a school that is just ok. The honest answer here is to send your kids to an in-state public school in your jurisdiction. THAT is the future of higher ed....if we're smart.

Those schools are cheaper now and in a few years will be considered TOP.

Which schools do you think will be considered "TOP"?

We have a thread for this: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1200283.page

Yes, but I can't think of one "cheaper" SEC school that will be considered TOP in a few years. Not one. I don't think Georgia or Florida will ever be at the level of UNC or UVA, much less at the level of Ivies and the like.

+1
Georgia and Florida are great schools and both are enjoying a surge in popularity. Both are great, affordable options for in state students which has elevated their rankings, helping push application #s up out of state. However, these schools will never be in the same category of UNC or UVA.

Why wouldn’t they be?

Years/decades of established reputation. UNC and UVA have been well regarded/highly ranked since we were all looking at colleges 20 years ago. Every few years new schools become hot - currently it's Southern schools like Georgia and Florida. You can probably name programs that UNC and UVA are known for, not just regionally, but nationally. Can you say the same for Georgia and Florida?

What are UNC and UVA known for?

You are truly unfamiliar with the reputation of their business, pre-health, nursing, english, history, etc. programs? Both schools are widely known for multiple academic areas and are generally regarded as universally strong with the exception of STEM disciplines. I'm not sure Georgia and Florida can say the same.

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Anonymous wrote:The South is now the destination of choice for many college bound kids. Will this trend continue?

https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

Lol, no. Only uneducated fools go south. This board seems to have been infiltrated by Russian trolls/MAGA supporters recently.

I think you are jealous because southerners are better looking.

I think it’s very strange that so many people are saying southerners are better looking…I’m from The south and…no. These posters must just be thinking of Bama sorority girl types. That is NOT the majority of southerners. That is a small subset of UMC kids from the south. If you look at the majority of southerners, most are just average looking just like anywhere else in the country. Except there are higher rates of obesity in the south, which isn’t exactly boosting the overall attractiveness.

This is the college forum, not the hill Walmart forum.