Is the future of higher ed in the South?

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Anonymous wrote:I want each of you posters arguing that the south is the accepting land of opportunity for Jews to read a f#%^n history book and while you’re at it, ask some actual Jewish people if they’re thinking of moving to the Deep South (NOT south Florida) anytime soon to escape antisemitism. This is the most bizarre argument I’ve seen lately on DCUM and that’s really saying something…

At exactly how many southern universities do you see Palestinian flags waving and being erected on school buildings, Jewish students being bullied and/or assaulted, etc? Jewish students and families are welcomed in the south.

Like I said: read a history book. You think because (most) southerners aren’t waving Palestinian flags that means that southerners support Jews? Are you really that simple-minded and ignorant of history and politics in the south?

It is now 2024. You need to come visit with people at the Temple in Atlanta and with the many Jewish families who live in the Atlanta area and other southern cities. Visit chools with large numbers of Jewish students like U of FL, Emory, and Tulane.

+1

Also, want to change a region? Move there. Expose people to your views. Create more diversity of viewpoints. Vote.

You'll never effect change by sitting in Takoma Park and screaming online about the people in Atlanta.

That approach assumes that the views you want to change were rational in the first place. If people are willfully ignorant then you can't force them to change their views.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids don’t have blinders on anymore. The nation feels smaller than ever. They don’t want crummy weather and lunatic politics. TikTok and instagram display how gorgeous, fun and sunny the South is. Honestly, the northeast and Midwest are cold, dreary, and full of miserable people.

Prime of your life should be spent somewhere fun. Undergrad education is the same anywhere. Go study in the sun.

Right - they don't want to live in a swamp with desantis nutters.

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Anonymous wrote:I want each of you posters arguing that the south is the accepting land of opportunity for Jews to read a f#%^n history book and while you’re at it, ask some actual Jewish people if they’re thinking of moving to the Deep South (NOT south Florida) anytime soon to escape antisemitism. This is the most bizarre argument I’ve seen lately on DCUM and that’s really saying something…

At exactly how many southern universities do you see Palestinian flags waving and being erected on school buildings, Jewish students being bullied and/or assaulted, etc? Jewish students and families are welcomed in the south.

Like I said: read a history book. You think because (most) southerners aren’t waving Palestinian flags that means that southerners support Jews? Are you really that simple-minded and ignorant of history and politics in the south?

It is now 2024. You need to come visit with people at the Temple in Atlanta and with the many Jewish families who live in the Atlanta area and other southern cities. Visit chools with large numbers of Jewish students like U of FL, Emory, and Tulane.

The irony of PP's post is thick.

How so? I am so tired of people pretending history and politics don’t matter. I’m glad things are getting better at many universities in the south and sure, UF, Tulane, and Emory are notable exceptions to backward thinking but unfortunately that doesn’t erase a rich history of racism, bigotry, and intolerance that permeates throughout the south.

It is you who are simple-minded and ignorant. Get with the times, your angst and over-emotional behavior is not healthy.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I want each of you posters arguing that the south is the accepting land of opportunity for Jews to read a f#%^n history book and while you’re at it, ask some actual Jewish people if they’re thinking of moving to the Deep South (NOT south Florida) anytime soon to escape antisemitism. This is the most bizarre argument I’ve seen lately on DCUM and that’s really saying something…

At exactly how many southern universities do you see Palestinian flags waving and being erected on school buildings, Jewish students being bullied and/or assaulted, etc? Jewish students and families are welcomed in the south.

Like I said: read a history book. You think because (most) southerners aren’t waving Palestinian flags that means that southerners support Jews? Are you really that simple-minded and ignorant of history and politics in the south?

It is now 2024. You need to come visit with people at the Temple in Atlanta and with the many Jewish families who live in the Atlanta area and other southern cities. Visit chools with large numbers of Jewish students like U of FL, Emory, and Tulane.

The irony of PP's post is thick.

How so? I am so tired of people pretending history and politics don’t matter. I’m glad things are getting better at many universities in the south and sure, UF, Tulane, and Emory are notable exceptions to backward thinking but unfortunately that doesn’t erase a rich history of racism, bigotry, and intolerance that permeates throughout the south.

+1 million

VA is bad enough, definitely don't want to head further south.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kids don’t have blinders on anymore. The nation feels smaller than ever. They don’t want crummy weather and lunatic politics. TikTok and instagram display how gorgeous, fun and sunny the South is. Honestly, the northeast and Midwest are cold, dreary, and full of miserable people.

Prime of your life should be spent somewhere fun. Undergrad education is the same anywhere. Go study in the sun.

Except the numbers don’t actually bear this out. Penn State main campus has increased enrollment nearly 50% over the last 10 years, while schools like Clemson and Florida have increased enrollment by 20% and 10%, respectively. Penn State enrollment is up 15,000 students while those two combined are up 7500.

Since Covid and TO (and schools adopting the common app), applications across the board are up 40%.

Again, it’s really the top 150 -200 schools regardless of location that are wildly popular vs all other schools.

Please post all your citations.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:I want each of you posters arguing that the south is the accepting land of opportunity for Jews to read a f#%^n history book and while you’re at it, ask some actual Jewish people if they’re thinking of moving to the Deep South (NOT south Florida) anytime soon to escape antisemitism. This is the most bizarre argument I’ve seen lately on DCUM and that’s really saying something…

At exactly how many southern universities do you see Palestinian flags waving and being erected on school buildings, Jewish students being bullied and/or assaulted, etc? Jewish students and families are welcomed in the south.

Like I said: read a history book. You think because (most) southerners aren’t waving Palestinian flags that means that southerners support Jews? Are you really that simple-minded and ignorant of history and politics in the south?

It is now 2024. You need to come visit with people at the Temple in Atlanta and with the many Jewish families who live in the Atlanta area and other southern cities. Visit chools with large numbers of Jewish students like U of FL, Emory, and Tulane.

The irony of PP's post is thick.

How so? I am so tired of people pretending history and politics don’t matter. I’m glad things are getting better at many universities in the south and sure, UF, Tulane, and Emory are notable exceptions to backward thinking but unfortunately that doesn’t erase a rich history of racism, bigotry, and intolerance that permeates throughout the south.

+1 million

VA is bad enough, definitely don't want to head further south.

Then stick close to Columbia with its forward thinking, welcoming atmosphere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids don’t have blinders on anymore. The nation feels smaller than ever. They don’t want crummy weather and lunatic politics. TikTok and instagram display how gorgeous, fun and sunny the South is. Honestly, the northeast and Midwest are cold, dreary, and full of miserable people.

Prime of your life should be spent somewhere fun. Undergrad education is the same anywhere. Go study in the sun.

Right - they don't want to live in a swamp with desantis nutters.

They prefer a New England school with less diversity.

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Normal kids aren’t looking for violence on their college campuses. Plain and simple.

I do agree with this, but I can't see either of my girls going south. Maybe Florida.

Where do you think that is?

Lots of parts of Florida that are effectively NYC suburbs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kids don’t have blinders on anymore. The nation feels smaller than ever. They don’t want crummy weather and lunatic politics. TikTok and instagram display how gorgeous, fun and sunny the South is. Honestly, the northeast and Midwest are cold, dreary, and full of miserable people.

Prime of your life should be spent somewhere fun. Undergrad education is the same anywhere. Go study in the sun.

Except the numbers don’t actually bear this out. Penn State main campus has increased enrollment nearly 50% over the last 10 years, while schools like Clemson and Florida have increased enrollment by 20% and 10%, respectively. Penn State enrollment is up 15,000 students while those two combined are up 7500.

Since Covid and TO (and schools adopting the common app), applications across the board are up 40%.

Again, it’s really the top 150 -200 schools regardless of location that are wildly popular vs all other schools.

Please post all your citations.
DP

Stop being a lazy POS and go look at the CDS for each school above and the time period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids don’t have blinders on anymore. The nation feels smaller than ever. They don’t want crummy weather and lunatic politics. TikTok and instagram display how gorgeous, fun and sunny the South is. Honestly, the northeast and Midwest are cold, dreary, and full of miserable people.

Prime of your life should be spent somewhere fun. Undergrad education is the same anywhere. Go study in the sun.

Except the numbers don’t actually bear this out. Penn State main campus has increased enrollment nearly 50% over the last 10 years, while schools like Clemson and Florida have increased enrollment by 20% and 10%, respectively. Penn State enrollment is up 15,000 students while those two combined are up 7500.

Since Covid and TO (and schools adopting the common app), applications across the board are up 40%.

Again, it’s really the top 150 -200 schools regardless of location that are wildly popular vs all other schools.

Please post all your citations.
DP

Stop being a lazy POS and go look at the CDS for each school above and the time period.

You made the claim, you provide the cite.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For female students, the South is pretty dangerous. They'd have very little say in their own healthcare - even in the case of a life-threatening emergency.

For males - it's a little easier. However, my son and his cousin had a conversation the other day about how they think they'd have a hard time going to college in a red state. I was proud of them for really thinking it through. My son is being recruited at many schools in red states. The schools are progressive enough that he'd feel comfortable there and luckily, as a male, he just has more options than his female classmates.

Most girls and women are capable enough to figure out birth control.

+1 Seriously. I can't get over the number of posters here whose top priority seems to be the availability of abortions.

A window into how they run their lives. Bill and then Hillary used to say "safe, legal, and rare" but that's passe. After all, if it's not immoral, why "rare"? Might as well get a quarterly abortion whether you need one or not.

I honestly don't know how to get through to you and your ilk.

And, yes, a lot of our children would be fine in the case of an elective abortion. Which we sure hope our children don't need, but birth control isn't 100% and rapes do happen, as well.

I feel for the women who cannot leave these states, the ones another poster brought up. The situation is horrible and puts these women in peril, and even more so if they lack resources to leave the state.

And of course, my biggest fear - the emergency situations. I don't trust that hospitals in these states will deem something an "emergency" in enough time to actually save a woman suffering ectopic rupture, sepsis, or any number of other life threatening complications that arise.

We should ALL care about these things, but many of you just pretend it will never happen to you or anyone in your family. I thought the Kate Cox situation would wake a lot of you up, but I guess since she didn't die, all is well? SMDH

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kids don’t have blinders on anymore. The nation feels smaller than ever. They don’t want crummy weather and lunatic politics. TikTok and instagram display how gorgeous, fun and sunny the South is. Honestly, the northeast and Midwest are cold, dreary, and full of miserable people.

Prime of your life should be spent somewhere fun. Undergrad education is the same anywhere. Go study in the sun.

Right - they don't want to live in a swamp with desantis nutters.

+1

PP sounds happy though. LOL.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I want each of you posters arguing that the south is the accepting land of opportunity for Jews to read a f#%^n history book and while you’re at it, ask some actual Jewish people if they’re thinking of moving to the Deep South (NOT south Florida) anytime soon to escape antisemitism. This is the most bizarre argument I’ve seen lately on DCUM and that’s really saying something…

At exactly how many southern universities do you see Palestinian flags waving and being erected on school buildings, Jewish students being bullied and/or assaulted, etc? Jewish students and families are welcomed in the south.

Like I said: read a history book. You think because (most) southerners aren’t waving Palestinian flags that means that southerners support Jews? Are you really that simple-minded and ignorant of history and politics in the south?

It is now 2024. You need to come visit with people at the Temple in Atlanta and with the many Jewish families who live in the Atlanta area and other southern cities. Visit chools with large numbers of Jewish students like U of FL, Emory, and Tulane.

The irony of PP's post is thick.

How so? I am so tired of people pretending history and politics don’t matter. I’m glad things are getting better at many universities in the south and sure, UF, Tulane, and Emory are notable exceptions to backward thinking but unfortunately that doesn’t erase a rich history of racism, bigotry, and intolerance that permeates throughout the south.

+1 million

VA is bad enough, definitely don't want to head further south.

Then stick close to Columbia with its forward thinking, welcoming atmosphere.

My kid would love to go there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I want each of you posters arguing that the south is the accepting land of opportunity for Jews to read a f#%^n history book and while you’re at it, ask some actual Jewish people if they’re thinking of moving to the Deep South (NOT south Florida) anytime soon to escape antisemitism. This is the most bizarre argument I’ve seen lately on DCUM and that’s really saying something…

At exactly how many southern universities do you see Palestinian flags waving and being erected on school buildings, Jewish students being bullied and/or assaulted, etc? Jewish students and families are welcomed in the south.

Like I said: read a history book. You think because (most) southerners aren’t waving Palestinian flags that means that southerners support Jews? Are you really that simple-minded and ignorant of history and politics in the south?

It is now 2024. You need to come visit with people at the Temple in Atlanta and with the many Jewish families who live in the Atlanta area and other southern cities. Visit chools with large numbers of Jewish students like U of FL, Emory, and Tulane.

The irony of PP's post is thick.

How so? I am so tired of people pretending history and politics don’t matter. I’m glad things are getting better at many universities in the south and sure, UF, Tulane, and Emory are notable exceptions to backward thinking but unfortunately that doesn’t erase a rich history of racism, bigotry, and intolerance that permeates throughout the south.

+1 million

VA is bad enough, definitely don't want to head further south.

Then stick close to Columbia with its forward thinking, welcoming atmosphere.

My kid would love to go there.

I get it. Excellent choice!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I want each of you posters arguing that the south is the accepting land of opportunity for Jews to read a f#%^n history book and while you’re at it, ask some actual Jewish people if they’re thinking of moving to the Deep South (NOT south Florida) anytime soon to escape antisemitism. This is the most bizarre argument I’ve seen lately on DCUM and that’s really saying something…

At exactly how many southern universities do you see Palestinian flags waving and being erected on school buildings, Jewish students being bullied and/or assaulted, etc? Jewish students and families are welcomed in the south.

Like I said: read a history book. You think because (most) southerners aren’t waving Palestinian flags that means that southerners support Jews? Are you really that simple-minded and ignorant of history and politics in the south?

It is now 2024. You need to come visit with people at the Temple in Atlanta and with the many Jewish families who live in the Atlanta area and other southern cities. Visit chools with large numbers of Jewish students like U of FL, Emory, and Tulane.

The irony of PP's post is thick.

How so? I am so tired of people pretending history and politics don’t matter. I’m glad things are getting better at many universities in the south and sure, UF, Tulane, and Emory are notable exceptions to backward thinking but unfortunately that doesn’t erase a rich history of racism, bigotry, and intolerance that permeates throughout the south.

+1 million

VA is bad enough, definitely don't want to head further south.

Then stick close to Columbia with its forward thinking, welcoming atmosphere.

There are literally thousands of colleges in the Us. You do realize the decision isn’t “Columbia or South of the Mason Dixon line”, right? And BTW— how are Emory, UT Austin and the like doing with their encampments?