Is the future of higher ed in the South?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of the state of reproductive healthcare in the South, and I can see it having real-life impacts on girls and boys attending colleges there.

The rich out of state kids who go to the Southern flagships can afford to fly out of state to take care of such things.

Please stop: most of us are concerned about emergency situations when women are turned away from ERs and forced to bleed out in parking lots

Good luck, southerners

Actually we’re not.

+2 IUDs for your daughters before college. Problem solved.

Friend got pregnant with a late in life 'oops' baby while having an IUD. OB told her it happens.

I also have a friend this happened to - kid #3. Luckily, they make good money (she’s a lawyer) and were ok with the surprise.

My daughter tried an IUD at 15 for her horrible cramps. Had it removed because it actually made things worse, not better. She is now on her 3rd attempt at long acting birth control, which she needs because she had had at least 3 ovarian cysts burst in the past year.

IUDs don’t work for everyone, and are not 100%

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of the state of reproductive healthcare in the South, and I can see it having real-life impacts on girls and boys attending colleges there.

I take your point, but also if you want the politics to change, having liberals move there is a good start. Some states, Mississippi, for example, are probably so deep red it won’t happen, but Tennessee, for example, has both Nashville and Memphis and two other large university towns in Knoxville (u of Tennessee) and Murfreesboro (Middle TN State, which is the second largest college in the state with probably 30,000 students). Those places are fairly progressive and are barely outnumbered by the more rural places in the rest of the state. The state as a whole is not nearly as red as its legislative assembly would suggest. Sure, the Smokeys might be deep red, but mountains and moonshine distilleries don’t vote.

It’s not that everyone is so conservative across the south. There are a lot of majority black cities in the south (Memphis, Birmingham, Jackson, MS, Montgomery, Shreveport, New Orleans, Baton Rouge…all have a majority black population and politics that reflect that demographic) and those places solidly vote democratic.

100% of which are crime-ridden $h!+holes.

Wow. You sound racist.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of the state of reproductive healthcare in the South, and I can see it having real-life impacts on girls and boys attending colleges there.

I take your point, but also if you want the politics to change, having liberals move there is a good start. Some states, Mississippi, for example, are probably so deep red it won’t happen, but Tennessee, for example, has both Nashville and Memphis and two other large university towns in Knoxville (u of Tennessee) and Murfreesboro (Middle TN State, which is the second largest college in the state with probably 30,000 students). Those places are fairly progressive and are barely outnumbered by the more rural places in the rest of the state. The state as a whole is not nearly as red as its legislative assembly would suggest. Sure, the Smokeys might be deep red, but mountains and moonshine distilleries don’t vote.

It’s not that everyone is so conservative across the south. There are a lot of majority black cities in the south (Memphis, Birmingham, Jackson, MS, Montgomery, Shreveport, New Orleans, Baton Rouge…all have a majority black population and politics that reflect that demographic) and those places solidly vote democratic.

+Savannah, Mobile, Augusta & Macon in GA. Soon the city of Atlanta will be majority black too w population shift there.

So I’d expect the south to become more democratic voters in the future too. The old guard, the good old boys type are thankfully thinning out.

You might get surprised.

I think it’s you who might get surprised. Most major cities in the south vote democratic. Including cities w huge populations like Houston and Atlanta.

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Anonymous wrote:UT and Rice are super liberal and located in very liberal cities so don't go there if you can't handle it. However, being in a conservative state, you'll be perfectly fine there. They can accommodate both extremes and neutrals as well.

Houston is not a "very liberal city."

I guess it depends what you mean by “very liberal” but Houston has voted Democratic in presidential elections for more than a decade, the majority of elected officials there are democrats, and they have had democratic mayors for over 40 years. So…

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Normal kids aren’t looking for violence on their college campuses. Plain and simple.

I do agree with this, but I can't see either of my girls going south. Maybe Florida.

Where do you think that is?

Florida is special. It’s hard to be a nasty person when you have sunny skies and gorgeous beaches most of the time. That’s why we’re moving there.

have you heard anything out of Desantis' mouth? or the Orange fatty for that matter? both reside in FL and both are hateful, nasty people.

There are plenty of hateful people in Florida. And it's not so pleasant in the summer in Florida these days. Even Disney World had surprisingly low attendance last August---no one could stand the 110 degree heat and tourists didn't want to swim in 90 degree water.

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Normal kids aren’t looking for violence on their college campuses. Plain and simple.

I do agree with this, but I can't see either of my girls going south. Maybe Florida.

Where do you think that is?

Florida is special. It’s hard to be a nasty person when you have sunny skies and gorgeous beaches most of the time. That’s why we’re moving there.

have you heard anything out of Desantis' mouth? or the Orange fatty for that matter? both reside in FL and both are hateful, nasty people.

There are plenty of hateful people in Florida. And it's not so pleasant in the summer in Florida these days. Even Disney World had surprisingly low attendance last August---no one could stand the 110 degree heat and tourists didn't want to swim in 90 degree water.

Luckily most college kids do not stay on campus in the summer.

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Anonymous wrote:Nah, not while those states continue to rank near the bottom of K-12 education. Most of the SEC schools saw significant increases in apps, but most of the kids we know headed south (besides UGA or FL which were 1st choice for a few friends) didn't get into T30 schools or W&M, VT, UVA or MD, and didn't want JMU, VCU or Mason. Our neighbor's DD graduated from Ole Miss and my DD teacher's son graduated from AL. Both want to return to the DMV, but are having trouble finding jobs. The AL kid is now looking for jobs in Atlanta & Charlotte while Ole Miss girl is still hoping to find something in this area.

You don't get it. People are realizing T30 doesn't matter, and they can have a great time with fun, beautiful peers, not dealing with people like you that are negative.

Graduated from University of TN. The DC area Big Four recruited heavily at UT. I interned in DC, went back to UT for masters and then accepted a job in DC. Worked for 3 of the big four firms for a few yrs and then started own consulting business in DC area. Lots of opportunities here.

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Anonymous wrote:Nah, not while those states continue to rank near the bottom of K-12 education. Most of the SEC schools saw significant increases in apps, but most of the kids we know headed south (besides UGA or FL which were 1st choice for a few friends) didn't get into T30 schools or W&M, VT, UVA or MD, and didn't want JMU, VCU or Mason. Our neighbor's DD graduated from Ole Miss and my DD teacher's son graduated from AL. Both want to return to the DMV, but are having trouble finding jobs. The AL kid is now looking for jobs in Atlanta & Charlotte while Ole Miss girl is still hoping to find something in this area.

You don't get it. People are realizing T30 doesn't matter, and they can have a great time with fun, beautiful peers, not dealing with people like you that are negative.

Graduated from University of TN. The DC area Big Four recruited heavily at UT. I interned in DC, went back to UT for masters and then accepted a job in DC. Worked for 3 of the big four firms for a few yrs and then started own consulting business in DC area. Lots of opportunities here.

Because it's the dream of every high school student to work at a Big Four accounting firm. Quite the glamour career.

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Anonymous wrote:The South is now the destination of choice for many college bound kids. Will this trend continue?

https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

Lol, no. Only uneducated fools go south. This board seems to have been infiltrated by Russian trolls/MAGA supporters recently.

I think you are jealous because southerners are better looking.

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Anonymous wrote:F no. Keep dreaming Trumpers!

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Anonymous wrote:Nah, not while those states continue to rank near the bottom of K-12 education. Most of the SEC schools saw significant increases in apps, but most of the kids we know headed south (besides UGA or FL which were 1st choice for a few friends) didn't get into T30 schools or W&M, VT, UVA or MD, and didn't want JMU, VCU or Mason. Our neighbor's DD graduated from Ole Miss and my DD teacher's son graduated from AL. Both want to return to the DMV, but are having trouble finding jobs. The AL kid is now looking for jobs in Atlanta & Charlotte while Ole Miss girl is still hoping to find something in this area.

You don't get it. People are realizing T30 doesn't matter, and they can have a great time with fun, beautiful peers, not dealing with people like you that are negative.

Graduated from University of TN. The DC area Big Four recruited heavily at UT. I interned in DC, went back to UT for masters and then accepted a job in DC. Worked for 3 of the big four firms for a few yrs and then started own consulting business in DC area. Lots of opportunities here.

Because it's the dream of every high school student to work at a Big Four accounting firm. Quite the glamour career.

Well I loved it and am financially set and can retire early anytime (have to get rid of clients first 😀) but I enjoy running my own business. To each their own! And yes it was my dream and I achieved it😀. Everyone has different dreams.

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Anonymous wrote:The South is now the destination of choice for many college bound kids. Will this trend continue?

https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

Lol, no. Only uneducated fools go south. This board seems to have been infiltrated by Russian trolls/MAGA supporters recently.

I think you are jealous because southerners are better looking.

I think it’s very strange that so many people are saying southerners are better looking…I’m from The south and…no. These posters must just be thinking of Bama sorority girl types. That is NOT the majority of southerners. That is a small subset of UMC kids from the south. If you look at the majority of southerners, most are just average looking just like anywhere else in the country. Except there are higher rates of obesity in the south, which isn’t exactly boosting the overall attractiveness.

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Anonymous wrote:The South is now the destination of choice for many college bound kids. Will this trend continue?

https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

Lol, no. Only uneducated fools go south. This board seems to have been infiltrated by Russian trolls/MAGA supporters recently.

I think you are jealous because southerners are better looking.

I think it’s very strange that so many people are saying southerners are better looking…I’m from The south and…no. These posters must just be thinking of Bama sorority girl types. That is NOT the majority of southerners. That is a small subset of UMC kids from the south. If you look at the majority of southerners, most are just average looking just like anywhere else in the country. Except there are higher rates of obesity in the south, which isn’t exactly boosting the overall attractiveness.

+1 This. Every time I set foot in the south, I'm horrified by the number of people with Mama June obesity. Yes, there are gorgeous sorority girls at some schools, for sure. But they exist in the North and the Midwest and west coast too.

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Anonymous wrote:The South is now the destination of choice for many college bound kids. Will this trend continue?

https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

Lol, no. Only uneducated fools go south. This board seems to have been infiltrated by Russian trolls/MAGA supporters recently.

I think you are jealous because southerners are better looking.

I think it’s very strange that so many people are saying southerners are better looking…I’m from The south and…no. These posters must just be thinking of Bama sorority girl types. That is NOT the majority of southerners. That is a small subset of UMC kids from the south. If you look at the majority of southerners, most are just average looking just like anywhere else in the country. Except there are higher rates of obesity in the south, which isn’t exactly boosting the overall attractiveness.

Southerners are much taller than other areas of the country. When moving to DC I had never seen so many short people in my life. Was very odd and still not use to it after 20 yrs.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, the South is the future of higher education in the US. Lot of great schools, that offer a better value for the education dollar.

I think it's bananas to send your kids to an out of state public university (and pay OOS tuition) to a school that is just ok. The honest answer here is to send your kids to an in-state public school in your jurisdiction. THAT is the future of higher ed....if we're smart.

Those schools are cheaper now and in a few years will be considered TOP.

Which schools do you think will be considered "TOP"?

We have a thread for this: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1200283.page

Yes, but I can't think of one "cheaper" SEC school that will be considered TOP in a few years. Not one. I don't think Georgia or Florida will ever be at the level of UNC or UVA, much less at the level of Ivies and the like.

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Georgia and Florida are great schools and both are enjoying a surge in popularity. Both are great, affordable options for in state students which has elevated their rankings, helping push application #s up out of state. However, these schools will never be in the same category of UNC or UVA.