Taylor Swift album Tortured Poets Department leaked early?

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Anonymous wrote:NP. It’s weird how the Taylor fans are exactly as obsessed as the people who hate her

I don’t think it’s necessarily all fandom. I would say I’m a mild fan in that I know and like some of her songs, but haven’t bothered to listen to the new album or apparently albums yet and I likely won’t get to it for a while. But it is wild the bitterness and misogyny that comes out on these threads. It’s not just Taylor, it’s any female celeb. Truly wild.

Its always the same pattern… It’s never their success, it’s always someone else. They always destroy some poor man who deserves better, and ultimately they are a failure if they don’t have children on a prescribed timeline. Oh and inevitably they are aging poorly and their eggs have dried up.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. It’s weird how the Taylor fans are exactly as obsessed as the people who hate her

I don’t think it’s necessarily all fandom. I would say I’m a mild fan in that I know and like some of her songs, but haven’t bothered to listen to the new album or apparently albums yet and I likely won’t get to it for a while. But it is wild the bitterness and misogyny that comes out on these threads. It’s not just Taylor, it’s any female celeb. Truly wild.

It’s always the same pattern… It’s never their success, it’s always someone else. They always destroy some poor man who deserves better, and ultimately they are a failure if they don’t have children on a prescribed timeline. Oh and inevitably they are aging poorly and their eggs have dried up.

Exactly. And then the Swifties/casual fans/anyone who says something remotely nice about Taylor get chewed out for posting in hate threads. Here’s a neutral thread about her new albums and they descend fast to trash her, many who clearly have no plans to even listen to the albums in question.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't see a problem with the multiple albums.

Most kids just stream music, which you can do for free. I have listed to the whole thing twice including repeats on demand for free on pandora with some ads.

People buying albums are collectors or want the art. So they would PREFER more.

I feel like she screwed over her fans who preordered the album on iTunes who now have to pay twice for the same songs (12.99 + 14.99) when they could have had them all for 14.99. Like she needs more money.

Can someone explain this to me. They are two different albums. They aren’t the same songs.
Explain it like I’m 5.

They can’t explain it to you because they don’t understand it. They think people are mad because she release two albums, but that’s not it it.

Here’s an excerpt from an article Explain why people are mad…

Taylor Swift’s forthcoming album The Tortured Poets Department will be released on four different-coloured vinyl editions, each of them containing a different bonus track to incentivise fans to buy all four.

It’s clever marketing. She knows kids will force their poor parents to by all four. I bet there isn’t any discernible difference. One is more acoustic, the other is Hq, the other has more photos of Taylor , and the other has a personal message.

Am I right?

Force their poor parents? If it were up to my kids they’d probably eat chipotle and Chick-fil-A every day. But I’m the parent so I get to decide that’s not best.

No one is forced to buy multiple albums folks. Just like there’s no reason for me to have like 4 pairs of jeans. I’m sure some company somewhere is manipulating me, but ultimately I can stop the madness.

Right? Not to mention, the vast majority of her listeners are adults, not kids.

Taylor 14 when she started and now 33. So the teens when she started would be about her age now. And the teens of today are jumping on the bandwagon. Some say her music sounds the same, maybe so, but that’s why both adults and teens buy her albums. Compare Adele’s album of Hello to her latest and I probably won’t buy another one of her albums. Too far from the sound I like and expected.

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Anonymous wrote:The songs all sound the same and like they were written while she was drunk.

Yeah, I'm not impressed with the "two(!!!) albums." She should have culled and revised to create one tight album of 12 songs. Even NYT's review is titled "Taylor could use an editor."

This review was before the Anthology drop.

I think this album was for Taylor as much as it was for her listeners, so I don't begrudge her 31 songs. She probably left many more on the table.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't see a problem with the multiple albums.

Most kids just stream music, which you can do for free. I have listed to the whole thing twice including repeats on demand for free on pandora with some ads.

People buying albums are collectors or want the art. So they would PREFER more.

I feel like she screwed over her fans who preordered the album on iTunes who now have to pay twice for the same songs (12.99 + 14.99) when they could have had them all for 14.99. Like she needs more money.

Can someone explain this to me. They are two different albums. They aren’t the same songs.
Explain it like I’m 5.

They can’t explain it to you because they don’t understand it. They think people are mad because she release two albums, but that’s not it it.

Here’s an excerpt from an article Explain why people are mad…

Taylor Swift’s forthcoming album The Tortured Poets Department will be released on four different-coloured vinyl editions, each of them containing a different bonus track to incentivise fans to buy all four.

It’s clever marketing. She knows kids will force their poor parents to by all four. I bet there isn’t any discernible difference. One is more acoustic, the other is Hq, the other has more photos of Taylor , and the other has a personal message.

Am I right?

Force their poor parents? If it were up to my kids they’d probably eat chipotle and Chick-fil-A every day. But I’m the parent so I get to decide that’s not best.

No one is forced to buy multiple albums folks. Just like there’s no reason for me to have like 4 pairs of jeans. I’m sure some company somewhere is manipulating me, but ultimately I can stop the madness.

Well, clearly poor Taylor needs the money. Hilarious after she calls her fans Vipers (Don’t worry, it wasn’t YOU, it was all the OTHER fans), that they will still pay for both albums and LOVE LOVE LOVE her. She clearly doesn’t love them as much as they worship her.

[Anonymous]

Why is Taylor Seift writing a song about Kim Kardashian? Short-sighted to drag out mess from 8 years ago. Psst, Taylor, you won already. It feels beneath her, childish, like a slam book.

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It’s always fun listening to her new albums bc they are such cultural phenomenons. I don’t care for these songs generally aside from a few Anthology ones. The KIM one is just stupid revenge and juvenile.

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Anonymous wrote:People might not love her but she is undeniably a poet and thoroughly pours her heart into her songs. 31 songs is pretty impressive for any artist.

I disagree, I think she's at the point she doesn't edit herself for great quality anymore. She thinks her fans just want it all and will love it all even if it's okay only, which isn't wrong.

This is a woman who can put down a song in 20 minutes. I think she has so much material for songs that she continuously writes them as both an emotional purge and to share her life with fans...and that's precisely why she has such a large following. I mean didn't she say she would just have to put out better music when Reputation didn't get any nominations?

Critics have gone back and reappraised Reputation. Most seem to think it’s held up better than expected.

Reputation is my first TS love and i cannot wait for taylor’s version. Folklore is my absolute perfect album. I’m loving the anthology songs.

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I found this to be her funniest album. I actually laughed out loud at some of the lyrics.

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Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.

It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him

I agree with this. trashing ex boyfriends was cute when she was college aged and established older actors like Jake gylenhaal and John Mayer were taking gross advantage of a 20 year old, but now it’s 15 years later and she’s still doing the same shtick of very clearly airing dirty laundry and throwing her ex boyfriends - some of whom were serious relationships - under the bus. Doing this every six months in her mid thirties strikes me as juvenile and emotionally stunted. It’s like she’s addicted to the break ups/relationships for the content and I think it’s super weird.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is Taylor Seift writing a song about Kim Kardashian? Short-sighted to drag out mess from 8 years ago. Psst, Taylor, you won already. It feels beneath her, childish, like a slam book.

I think you underestimate the damage the whole thing did to her psyche and the trauma it caused. I can somewhat relate but in a different way. It changed her forever.

As she posted last night, "This period of the author’s life is now over, the chapter closed and boarded up. There is nothing to avenge, no scores to settle once wounds have healed. And upon further reflection, a good number of them turned out to be self-inflicted. This writer is of the firm belief that our tears become holy in the form of ink on a page. Once we have spoken our saddest story, we can be free of it."

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Anonymous wrote:Why is Taylor Seift writing a song about Kim Kardashian? Short-sighted to drag out mess from 8 years ago. Psst, Taylor, you won already. It feels beneath her, childish, like a slam book.

I think you underestimate the damage the whole thing did to her psyche and the trauma it caused. I can somewhat relate but in a different way. It changed her forever.

As she posted last night, "This period of the author’s life is now over, the chapter closed and boarded up. There is nothing to avenge, no scores to settle once wounds have healed. And upon further reflection, a good number of them turned out to be self-inflicted. This writer is of the firm belief that our tears become holy in the form of ink on a page. Once we have spoken our saddest story, we can be free of it."

Pretty
Convenient. “I’m going to drop these terrible insults on these people and then refuse to talk about it because this period of the authors life is over! I’m free of it!”

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Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.

It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him

To out someone for what?

Also she did once say it's me, hi, I'm the problem it's me. Not to mention the TTPD album notes in which she said much of this was self-inflicted.

[Anonymous]

As a Swiftie, I must say this album is a let down. Most of it sounds the same and there isn’t a single catchy song!

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Anonymous wrote:Why is Taylor Seift writing a song about Kim Kardashian? Short-sighted to drag out mess from 8 years ago. Psst, Taylor, you won already. It feels beneath her, childish, like a slam book.

I think you underestimate the damage the whole thing did to her psyche and the trauma it caused. I can somewhat relate but in a different way. It changed her forever.

As she posted last night, "This period of the author’s life is now over, the chapter closed and boarded up. There is nothing to avenge, no scores to settle once wounds have healed. And upon further reflection, a good number of them turned out to be self-inflicted. This writer is of the firm belief that our tears become holy in the form of ink on a page. Once we have spoken our saddest story, we can be free of it."

Pretty
Convenient. “I’m going to drop these terrible insults on these people and then refuse to talk about it because this period of the authors life is over! I’m free of it!”

These people will be fine.