Taylor Swift album Tortured Poets Department leaked early?

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't see a problem with the multiple albums.

Most kids just stream music, which you can do for free. I have listed to the whole thing twice including repeats on demand for free on pandora with some ads.

People buying albums are collectors or want the art. So they would PREFER more.


I feel like she screwed over her fans who preordered the album on iTunes who now have to pay twice for the same songs (12.99 + 14.99) when they could have had them all for 14.99. Like she needs more money.



Can someone explain this to me. They are two different albums. They aren’t the same songs.
Explain it like I’m 5.


They can’t explain it to you because they don’t understand it. They think people are mad because she release two albums, but that’s not it it.

Here’s an excerpt from an article Explain why people are mad…

Taylor Swift’s forthcoming album The Tortured Poets Department will be released on four different-coloured vinyl editions, each of them containing a different bonus track to incentivise fans to buy all four.


Why is it so hard for you to understand. Fan preordered one album so she took their money for that one. Then 2 hrs later released another album with an additional 15 songs, not jus tan additional bonus tracks but a whole second album for the price of one, in ADDITION to all the songs on the first album. So instead of getting all 31 songs on the second album for $14.99. They are now stuck paying $12.99 for the first album and an additional $14.99 for the second. So $27.98 for 31 songs instead of $14.99. Now had she released these weeks apart I would not care, but 2 hrs apart and pushing pre-sales when she knew she would force those who committed to the presale to buy both albums is a smart business move but also greedy and rude to fans.


All the people that bought the original album got the extra songs in the middle of the night without purchasing anything that’s why they were freaking out at 2 AM.


I preordered in iTunes and only received the first album/16 songs. If I want the other songs I need to purchase the second album.


Dp- as it should be . It’s another album.


Another album that where half the songs are also on the first album.

If I had not been a fool to preorder and had walked into the store today and could chose between the two I would be an idiot to not just buy the second one that has ALL the songs for the same price vs the first one with just half the songs. It was a shitty move one her part.

Now if Album 1 was songs 1-16 and album 2 was 17-31 I would not complain.


Weird in my iTunes I got all 31 for $14.
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Anonymous wrote:I really don't see a problem with the multiple albums.

Most kids just stream music, which you can do for free. I have listed to the whole thing twice including repeats on demand for free on pandora with some ads.

People buying albums are collectors or want the art. So they would PREFER more.


I feel like she screwed over her fans who preordered the album on iTunes who now have to pay twice for the same songs (12.99 + 14.99) when they could have had them all for 14.99. Like she needs more money.



Can someone explain this to me. They are two different albums. They aren’t the same songs.
Explain it like I’m 5.


They can’t explain it to you because they don’t understand it. They think people are mad because she release two albums, but that’s not it it.

Here’s an excerpt from an article Explain why people are mad…

Taylor Swift’s forthcoming album The Tortured Poets Department will be released on four different-coloured vinyl editions, each of them containing a different bonus track to incentivise fans to buy all four.


Why is it so hard for you to understand. Fan preordered one album so she took their money for that one. Then 2 hrs later released another album with an additional 15 songs, not jus tan additional bonus tracks but a whole second album for the price of one, in ADDITION to all the songs on the first album. So instead of getting all 31 songs on the second album for $14.99. They are now stuck paying $12.99 for the first album and an additional $14.99 for the second. So $27.98 for 31 songs instead of $14.99. Now had she released these weeks apart I would not care, but 2 hrs apart and pushing pre-sales when she knew she would force those who committed to the presale to buy both albums is a smart business move but also greedy and rude to fans.


All the people that bought the original album got the extra songs in the middle of the night without purchasing anything that’s why they were freaking out at 2 AM.


I preordered in iTunes and only received the first album/16 songs. If I want the other songs I need to purchase the second album.


Dp- as it should be . It’s another album.


Another album that where half the songs are also on the first album.

If I had not been a fool to preorder and had walked into the store today and could chose between the two I would be an idiot to not just buy the second one that has ALL the songs for the same price vs the first one with just half the songs. It was a shitty move one her part.

Now if Album 1 was songs 1-16 and album 2 was 17-31 I would not complain.


Weird in my iTunes I got all 31 for $14.


Did you pre-order or buy this morning?
I think it was just the pre-order people who got screwed.
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Anonymous wrote:I really don't see a problem with the multiple albums.

Most kids just stream music, which you can do for free. I have listed to the whole thing twice including repeats on demand for free on pandora with some ads.

People buying albums are collectors or want the art. So they would PREFER more.


I feel like she screwed over her fans who preordered the album on iTunes who now have to pay twice for the same songs (12.99 + 14.99) when they could have had them all for 14.99. Like she needs more money.



Can someone explain this to me. They are two different albums. They aren’t the same songs.
Explain it like I’m 5.


They can’t explain it to you because they don’t understand it. They think people are mad because she release two albums, but that’s not it it.

Here’s an excerpt from an article Explain why people are mad…

Taylor Swift’s forthcoming album The Tortured Poets Department will be released on four different-coloured vinyl editions, each of them containing a different bonus track to incentivise fans to buy all four.


Why is it so hard for you to understand. Fan preordered one album so she took their money for that one. Then 2 hrs later released another album with an additional 15 songs, not jus tan additional bonus tracks but a whole second album for the price of one, in ADDITION to all the songs on the first album. So instead of getting all 31 songs on the second album for $14.99. They are now stuck paying $12.99 for the first album and an additional $14.99 for the second. So $27.98 for 31 songs instead of $14.99. Now had she released these weeks apart I would not care, but 2 hrs apart and pushing pre-sales when she knew she would force those who committed to the presale to buy both albums is a smart business move but also greedy and rude to fans.


All the people that bought the original album got the extra songs in the middle of the night without purchasing anything that’s why they were freaking out at 2 AM.


I preordered in iTunes and only received the first album/16 songs. If I want the other songs I need to purchase the second album.


Dp- as it should be . It’s another album.


Another album that where half the songs are also on the first album.

If I had not been a fool to preorder and had walked into the store today and could chose between the two I would be an idiot to not just buy the second one that has ALL the songs for the same price vs the first one with just half the songs. It was a shitty move one her part.

Now if Album 1 was songs 1-16 and album 2 was 17-31 I would not complain.


Weird in my iTunes I got all 31 for $14.


Did you pre-order or buy this morning?
I think it was just the pre-order people who got screwed.


Everybody, but you got all of the songs you might want to talk to a manager.
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Anonymous wrote:I really don't see a problem with the multiple albums.

Most kids just stream music, which you can do for free. I have listed to the whole thing twice including repeats on demand for free on pandora with some ads.

People buying albums are collectors or want the art. So they would PREFER more.


I feel like she screwed over her fans who preordered the album on iTunes who now have to pay twice for the same songs (12.99 + 14.99) when they could have had them all for 14.99. Like she needs more money.



Can someone explain this to me. They are two different albums. They aren’t the same songs.
Explain it like I’m 5.


They can’t explain it to you because they don’t understand it. They think people are mad because she release two albums, but that’s not it it.

Here’s an excerpt from an article Explain why people are mad…

Taylor Swift’s forthcoming album The Tortured Poets Department will be released on four different-coloured vinyl editions, each of them containing a different bonus track to incentivise fans to buy all four.


Why is it so hard for you to understand. Fan preordered one album so she took their money for that one. Then 2 hrs later released another album with an additional 15 songs, not jus tan additional bonus tracks but a whole second album for the price of one, in ADDITION to all the songs on the first album. So instead of getting all 31 songs on the second album for $14.99. They are now stuck paying $12.99 for the first album and an additional $14.99 for the second. So $27.98 for 31 songs instead of $14.99. Now had she released these weeks apart I would not care, but 2 hrs apart and pushing pre-sales when she knew she would force those who committed to the presale to buy both albums is a smart business move but also greedy and rude to fans.


All the people that bought the original album got the extra songs in the middle of the night without purchasing anything that’s why they were freaking out at 2 AM.


I preordered in iTunes and only received the first album/16 songs. If I want the other songs I need to purchase the second album.


Dp- as it should be . It’s another album.


Another album that where half the songs are also on the first album.

If I had not been a fool to preorder and had walked into the store today and could chose between the two I would be an idiot to not just buy the second one that has ALL the songs for the same price vs the first one with just half the songs. It was a shitty move one her part.

Now if Album 1 was songs 1-16 and album 2 was 17-31 I would not complain.


Weird in my iTunes I got all 31 for $14.


Did you pre-order or buy this morning?
I think it was just the pre-order people who got screwed.


Because the pre orders all go to the first week tally. Wink , wink.

She’s trying to beat Adele.

Taylor is like the greediest pop star ever. Did Britney cheat like this back then? She used to get a million a week when she was the bubblegum sensation in the late 90s
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Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.


It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him


I agree with this. trashing ex boyfriends was cute when she was college aged and established older actors like Jake gylenhaal and John Mayer were taking gross advantage of a 20 year old, but now it’s 15 years later and she’s still doing the same shtick of very clearly airing dirty laundry and throwing her ex boyfriends - some of whom were serious relationships - under the bus. Doing this every six months in her mid thirties strikes me as juvenile and emotionally stunted. It’s like she’s addicted to the break ups/relationships for the content and I think it’s super weird.


Eh, I just read an article that Joe made several million bucks off of Taylor‘s albums that he co-wrote some of the songs during lockdown.

It’s hard to feel too sorry for him. He knew what he was getting into dating the absolute number one pop star on earth. They got together in 2017. She was an absolute global phenomenon at that point. She had a phase where she backed off the public for a while but come on. They dated during her reputation tour, which was huge.

I’m sure he’s not complaining about the residuals he will get the rest of his life.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is Taylor Seift writing a song about Kim Kardashian? Short-sighted to drag out mess from 8 years ago. Psst, Taylor, you won already. It feels beneath her, childish, like a slam book.


I think you underestimate the damage the whole thing did to her psyche and the trauma it caused. I can somewhat relate but in a different way. It changed her forever.

As she posted last night, "This period of the author’s life is now over, the chapter closed and boarded up. There is nothing to avenge, no scores to settle once wounds have healed. And upon further reflection, a good number of them turned out to be self-inflicted. This writer is of the firm belief that our tears become holy in the form of ink on a page. Once we have spoken our saddest story, we can be free of it."



Pretty
Convenient. “I’m going to drop these terrible insults on these people and then refuse to talk about it because this period of the authors life is over! I’m free of it!”

These people will be fine.


I don’t know. Are you sure? Kim Kardashian hates any kind of publicity and hates people talking about her. Somebody check up on her maybe?
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Anonymous wrote:Why is Taylor Seift writing a song about Kim Kardashian? Short-sighted to drag out mess from 8 years ago. Psst, Taylor, you won already. It feels beneath her, childish, like a slam book.


Kim Kardashian was still married to Kanye when this row happened . That’s how long ago this was but she keeps dragging it out.

I think she’s more mad at Kim than she ever was with Kanye which is also odd. She also is still upset with Katy Perry as well. She keeps grudges . She took Katy’s entire pop career actually. Remember , she was country originally
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Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.


It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him


I agree with this. trashing ex boyfriends was cute when she was college aged and established older actors like Jake gylenhaal and John Mayer were taking gross advantage of a 20 year old, but now it’s 15 years later and she’s still doing the same shtick of very clearly airing dirty laundry and throwing her ex boyfriends - some of whom were serious relationships - under the bus. Doing this every six months in her mid thirties strikes me as juvenile and emotionally stunted. It’s like she’s addicted to the break ups/relationships for the content and I think it’s super weird.


Eh, I just read an article that Joe made several million bucks off of Taylor‘s albums that he co-wrote some of the songs during lockdown.

It’s hard to feel too sorry for him. He knew what he was getting into dating the absolute number one pop star on earth. They got together in 2017. She was an absolute global phenomenon at that point. She had a phase where she backed off the public for a while but come on. They dated during her reputation tour, which was huge.

I’m sure he’s not complaining about the residuals he will get the rest of his life.


I think the issue is he is a Trump supporter and her fans were disappointed she would date him especially after her progressive Lover album.

By calling them vipers, she definitely making a bold claim about her man and her politics. The rumor before the Lover album was Taylor was Republican because she didn’t support Hillary in 2016 and stayed mum the entire election season.

She should’ve never done the virtue signaling and stayed apolitical. Calling her fans vipers because they didn’t like her MAGA boyfriend is hilarious . Taylor is unintentionally funny to me
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It’s also obvious the drinking increased after that breakup because she’s depressed with Travis and wants to go back/be with him but doesn’t want to affect her career negatively or get cancelled by Gen Z
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Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.


It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him


I agree with this. trashing ex boyfriends was cute when she was college aged and established older actors like Jake gylenhaal and John Mayer were taking gross advantage of a 20 year old, but now it’s 15 years later and she’s still doing the same shtick of very clearly airing dirty laundry and throwing her ex boyfriends - some of whom were serious relationships - under the bus. Doing this every six months in her mid thirties strikes me as juvenile and emotionally stunted. It’s like she’s addicted to the break ups/relationships for the content and I think it’s super weird.


Eh, I just read an article that Joe made several million bucks off of Taylor‘s albums that he co-wrote some of the songs during lockdown.

It’s hard to feel too sorry for him. He knew what he was getting into dating the absolute number one pop star on earth. They got together in 2017. She was an absolute global phenomenon at that point. She had a phase where she backed off the public for a while but come on. They dated during her reputation tour, which was huge.

I’m sure he’s not complaining about the residuals he will get the rest of his life.


I think the issue is he is a Trump supporter and her fans were disappointed she would date him especially after her progressive Lover album.

By calling them vipers, she definitely making a bold claim about her man and her politics. The rumor before the Lover album was Taylor was Republican because she didn’t support Hillary in 2016 and stayed mum the entire election season.

She should’ve never done the virtue signaling and stayed apolitical. Calling her fans vipers because they didn’t like her MAGA boyfriend is hilarious . Taylor is unintentionally funny to me

Wut?
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Anonymous wrote:Why is Taylor Seift writing a song about Kim Kardashian? Short-sighted to drag out mess from 8 years ago. Psst, Taylor, you won already. It feels beneath her, childish, like a slam book.


Kim Kardashian was still married to Kanye when this row happened . That’s how long ago this was but she keeps dragging it out.

I think she’s more mad at Kim than she ever was with Kanye which is also odd. She also is still upset with Katy Perry as well. She keeps grudges . She took Katy’s entire pop career actually. Remember , she was country originally


I actually don’t think it’s odd. She had history with Kanye, and has been well-known for a long time that Kanye is not well. Kim inserted herself in the drama and made the situation a lot worse. The whole thing got dragged out again and I was just just a blatant lie which made Kim even more .

I guess she was doubling down and doing it to defend her husband, but she could’ve absolutely stayed out of it. I’m sure she was desperate at that point since things were spiraling so I do feel sorry for her, but she could’ve stayed out of it.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is Taylor Seift writing a song about Kim Kardashian? Short-sighted to drag out mess from 8 years ago. Psst, Taylor, you won already. It feels beneath her, childish, like a slam book.


Kim Kardashian was still married to Kanye when this row happened . That’s how long ago this was but she keeps dragging it out.

I think she’s more mad at Kim than she ever was with Kanye which is also odd. She also is still upset with Katy Perry as well. She keeps grudges . She took Katy’s entire pop career actually. Remember , she was country originally


She and Katy Perry are friends again. Katy saw the Eras Tour in Australia and posted pictures of them together.

What Kim did is unforgiveable, but I think Taylor's new song about her is dumb.
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Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.


It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him


I agree with this. trashing ex boyfriends was cute when she was college aged and established older actors like Jake gylenhaal and John Mayer were taking gross advantage of a 20 year old, but now it’s 15 years later and she’s still doing the same shtick of very clearly airing dirty laundry and throwing her ex boyfriends - some of whom were serious relationships - under the bus. Doing this every six months in her mid thirties strikes me as juvenile and emotionally stunted. It’s like she’s addicted to the break ups/relationships for the content and I think it’s super weird.


I totally agree.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.


It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him


I agree with this. trashing ex boyfriends was cute when she was college aged and established older actors like Jake gylenhaal and John Mayer were taking gross advantage of a 20 year old, but now it’s 15 years later and she’s still doing the same shtick of very clearly airing dirty laundry and throwing her ex boyfriends - some of whom were serious relationships - under the bus. Doing this every six months in her mid thirties strikes me as juvenile and emotionally stunted. It’s like she’s addicted to the break ups/relationships for the content and I think it’s super weird.


I totally agree.



Maybe, but it’s working for her? The fans seem happy.
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Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.


It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him


I agree with this. trashing ex boyfriends was cute when she was college aged and established older actors like Jake gylenhaal and John Mayer were taking gross advantage of a 20 year old, but now it’s 15 years later and she’s still doing the same shtick of very clearly airing dirty laundry and throwing her ex boyfriends - some of whom were serious relationships - under the bus. Doing this every six months in her mid thirties strikes me as juvenile and emotionally stunted. It’s like she’s addicted to the break ups/relationships for the content and I think it’s super weird.


Maybe they should've treated her better if they didn’t want to get called out for their bad behavior.
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